(Fare Gone) AA: LAX-SYD in (QF) FIRST $1242 AI
#152
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sydney, Australia
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I tried (many times) but didn't get any luck with this.
However good luck to those who managed to get theirs ticketed (I do hope it sticks for you guys) but I sense that this error will end up like the W Hong Kong error rate, and QF (AA) may say "Ok, guys, we can't give it to you for $1,200 as it was an error (and you guys should have known that) but we'll let you have it for $5,000 return".
Anyway, good luck and thanks to the OP for the heads up (but this time I was too slow to benefit).
However good luck to those who managed to get theirs ticketed (I do hope it sticks for you guys) but I sense that this error will end up like the W Hong Kong error rate, and QF (AA) may say "Ok, guys, we can't give it to you for $1,200 as it was an error (and you guys should have known that) but we'll let you have it for $5,000 return".
Anyway, good luck and thanks to the OP for the heads up (but this time I was too slow to benefit).
#154
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 549
WOW.
Congrats to the OP. Nice find. It's amazing when these "slip-ups" happen.
And in F Class
I was alerted to one earlier this year, SYD-PER-PHD, for only $38 a.i on QF. whY class, still, it doesn't compare to something like this. WOW.
Now, the waiting game begins...will they follow through and honor it or not?
If l had of known, l would have jumped on a grabbed one ASAP.
Fingers crossed to all those people who were lucky enough to get one!
Congrats to the OP. Nice find. It's amazing when these "slip-ups" happen.
And in F Class
I was alerted to one earlier this year, SYD-PER-PHD, for only $38 a.i on QF. whY class, still, it doesn't compare to something like this. WOW.
Now, the waiting game begins...will they follow through and honor it or not?
If l had of known, l would have jumped on a grabbed one ASAP.
Fingers crossed to all those people who were lucky enough to get one!
#155
Join Date: Sep 2006
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booked on priceline - itin shows up on aa.com and priceline in F, have 017 ticket numbers, how do I find out fare basis?
I do not want to call the airline!!!!
thanks!
ps I understand if it is not honored (not saying its right) - just dont want to show up at LAX and find out I'm sitting in Y ...
I do not want to call the airline!!!!
thanks!
ps I understand if it is not honored (not saying its right) - just dont want to show up at LAX and find out I'm sitting in Y ...
#156
Join Date: Sep 2006
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This describes what's potentially bad about this. Whether booked on AA.com or whether you had seats pre-assigned in F, I think the very fact that this is a Q fare, which is obviously coach, will allow AA to downgrade and do so without a full refund. So if this Q fare basis is true, I don't think anyone who booked this has much leverage.
#157
Join Date: Jul 2007
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Exactly - even if they pulled something like that, your credit card company would have no hesitation in reversing the change on the basis that they have not supplied what was paid for.
#158
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Southern California/Los Angeles
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Posts: 2,776
Instructions on how to look up your ticket/fare/etc.
To view your receipt on line, go to the aa.com refund website here: aa.refunds
In the top/right section is a box that has a place to enter your Ticket Number and Passenger Last Name. Enter the information and proceed. You will see the Ticket Data, including the Fare Code, Ticket Status, etc..
PS....thank you thomdis for posting this. Good luck to all.
In the top/right section is a box that has a place to enter your Ticket Number and Passenger Last Name. Enter the information and proceed. You will see the Ticket Data, including the Fare Code, Ticket Status, etc..
PS....thank you thomdis for posting this. Good luck to all.
#159
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Bay Area (QSF), CA
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FYI -
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From: Los Angeles, CA (LAX-Los Angeles Intl.) To: Sydney, N.S.W., Australia (SYD-All Airports) (and return) Fare Basis Code: QB0QP1Y V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG 1A QB0QP1Y A R 1098.00 T26JA -/‡ -/ 6M PA01 PASSENGER TYPE-ADT AUTO PRICE-YES FROM-LAX TO-SYD CXR-AA TVL-01MAR10 RULE-PA55 IPRP/3 FARE BASIS-QB0QP1Y SPECIAL FARE DIS-E VENDOR-ATP FARE TYPE-XAP RT-REGULAR APEX USD 938.00 MPM E07JAN10 D-INFINITY FC-QB0QP1Y FN-4A SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 06JAN10/1721 EXPIRES INFINITY 50.RULE APPLICATION AND OTHER CONDITIONS NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. PROMOTIONAL FARES BETWEEN AREA 3 AND AREA 1 APPLICATION AREA THESE FARES APPLY BETWEEN AREA 3/AREA 1. CLASS OF SERVICE THESE FARES APPLY FOR ECONOMY CLASS SERVICE. TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE ONE-WAY/ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS. THESE FARES MAY BE USED FOR INDIVIDUAL INCLUSIVE TOURS. CAPACITY LIMITATIONS THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS, WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN FLIGHT, WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIER$S BEST JUDGEMENT. RULES NOT APPLICABLE 35 PASSENGER EXPENSES EN ROUTE. 01.ELIGIBILITY NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY. 02.DAY/TIME NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY. 03.SEASONALITY PERMITTED 07FEB10 THROUGH 30APR10 ON THE OUTBOUND TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR. SEASON IS BASED ON DATE OF ORIGIN. 04.FLIGHT APPLICATION THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AS FLIGHT AA FLIGHTS 6750 THROUGH 7128 AA FLIGHTS 7454 THROUGH 7637 AA FLIGHTS 8050 THROUGH 8099. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR BUT NOT ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING AA FLIGHTS 7950 THROUGH 7969. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING AA FLIGHTS 7290 THROUGH 7423. 05.ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS. WHEN RESERVATIONS ARE MADE AT LEAST 7 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE, TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 3 DAYS AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. FOR TRAVEL AGENCY BOOKINGS MADE IN MEXICO / THE CARIBBEAN / CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA - AA WILL ASSESS A USD 25.00 FEE ON ANY UNTICKETED RESERVATION NOT CANCELED BEFORE DEPARTURE. OR - CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS. TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 1 DAY AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. FOR TRAVEL AGENCY BOOKINGS MADE IN MEXICO / THE CARIBBEAN / CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA - AA WILL ASSESS A USD 25.00 FEE ON ANY UNTICKETED RESERVATION NOT CANCELED BEFORE DEPARTURE. 06.MINIMUM STAY NO MINIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY. 07.MAXIMUM STAY TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN MIDNIGHT 6 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN. 08.STOPOVERS NO STOPOVERS PERMITTED. 09.TRANSFERS 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION BETWEEN AA AND QF IN AUSTRALIA/NEW ZEALAND IN EACH DIRECTION. AND - UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION ANY COMBINATION OF THE FOLLOWING - UNLIMITED ONLINE ON AA. FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT. 10.COMBINATIONS DOUBLE OPEN JAWS NOT PERMITTED. ADD-ONS PERMITTED. END-ON-END END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ADJACENT LINE OF FLIGHT FARE COMPONENTS ONLY. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE POINT OF COMBINATION. END-ON-END NOTE - ADDONS NOT PERMITTED OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH AA FARES -TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS EXCEPT FOR AROUND-THE-WORLD FARES -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS WITH AA FARES EXCEPT FOR AROUND-THE-WORLD FARES. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE IN RULE 7100/8005 IN TARIFF PAMAAR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 3 VIA PAC OR ANY RULE IN TARIFF IPRP - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA PAC IPRPC - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 VIA PAC IPRSAAS - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 3 VIA PAC. 11.BLACKOUT DATES NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY. 12.SURCHARGES IF INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2. OR - CONTRACT BULK INFANT PSGR UNDER 2. OR - MILITARY INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 2. OR - NEGOTIATED INFANT PSGR UNDER 2. OR - INCLUSIVE TOUR INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2. SECURITY SURCHARGE OF HKD 33 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM/TO/ VIA HKG AIRPORT. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. SURCHARGE APPLIES TO - 1/ INFANTS 2/ PASSENGERS TRANSFERRING/TRANSITING HONG KONG 3/ PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON INDUSTRY/AGENGY DISCOUNT /ID/AD/ TICKETS 4/ PASSENGERS HOLDING DIPLOMATIC PASSPORTS SECURITY SURCHARGE OF HKD 33 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM/TO/VIA HKG AIRPORT. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. SURCHARGE APPLIES TO - 1/ PASSENGERS TRANSFERRING/TRANSITING HONG KONG 2/ PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON INDUSTRY/AGENGY DISCOUNT /ID/AD/ TICKETS 3/ PASSENGERS HOLDING DIPLOMATIC PASSPORTS AND - TO UNITED STATES - AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF USD 4.80 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ALL INTERNATIONAL SECTORS FROM/TO/VIA DFW. AND - MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 80.00 OR AUD 85.00 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE OF TRANSPACIFIC SECTORS. AND - ORIGINATING UNITED STATES - MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 170.00 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE OF TRANSATLANTIC SECTORS. AND - ORIGINATING AUSTRALIA - MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 140.00 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE OF TRANSATLANTIC SECTORS. 13.ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED. 14.TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS NO TRAVEL DATE RESTRICTIONS APPLY. 15.SALES RESTRICTIONS FOOTNOTE RULE TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 26JAN10. FARE RULE TICKETS MAY BE ISSUED BY PTA. PTA CONSTITUTES TICKETING. 16.PENALTIES CANCELLATIONS ANY TIME TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF CANCEL/NO-SHOW/ REFUND. WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE/ILLNESS OR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. WAIVER ALSO APPLIES FOR TRAVELING COMPANION. TICKET HAS NO VALUE UNLESS TICKETED FLIGHTS ARE CANCELLED PRIOR TO TICKETED DEPARTURE TIME. CHANGES ANY TIME CHARGE USD 250.00. WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE/ILLNESS OR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. WAIVER ALSO APPLIES TO TRAVELING COMPANION. THE ORIGINAL NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE. CHANGES ARE PERMITTED PRIOR TO THE TICKETED DEPARTURE TIME OF EACH FLIGHT PROVIDED THE NEW ITINERARY MEETS ALL THE PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE PURCHASED I.E. ADVANCE RESERVATION/TICKET PURCHASE MINIMUM /MAXIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS. ITINERARIES MAY BE REBOOKED AND TRAVEL MUST COMMENCE UP TO ONE YEAR FROM THE ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE DATE PROVIDED TICKETED FLIGHT IS CANCELLED PRIOR TO TICKETED DEPARTURE TIME. IF TICKETED FLIGHT IS NOT CANCELLED PRIOR TO TICKETED DEPARTURE TIME TICKET HAS NO VALUE. TICKETS AT THESE FARES MAY NOT BE REVALIDATED TICKETS MUST BE REISSUED. FARE DIFFERENCE AND CHANGE FEE MUST BE PAID AND TICKETS MUST BE REISSUED WHEN THE ITINERARY IS REBOOKED. WHEN THE ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE DIFFERENCE WILL BE ADD COLLECTED AND THE USD 250.00 CHANGE FEE WILL APPLY. WHEN THE ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE NO REFUNDS WILL BE MADE HOWEVER THE DIFFERENCE IN FARE WILL BE RETURNED TO THE PASSENGER IN THE FORM OF A NON REFUNDABLE TRAVEL VOUCHER WHICH MAY BE APPLIED TOWARDS THE PURCHASE OF A TICKET VALID FOR TRANSPORTATION GOVERNED BY AA. THE USD 250.00 CHANGE FEE WILL APPLY. 17.HIP/MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS NO HIP OR MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS APPLY. 18.TICKET ENDORSEMENTS THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - NON REF/FEE ON CHANGE - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX. 19.CHILDREN DISCOUNTS CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER OR BY PRO PSGR 12 OR OLDER. OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER OR BY PRO PSGR 12 OR OLDER. OR - INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER OR BY PRO PSGR 12 OR OLDER. OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - NO DISCOUNT. 20.TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS TUR/TOUR CONDUCTOR PSGR - NO DISCOUNT. 21.AGENT DISCOUNTS AGT/AGENT PSGR - NO DISCOUNT. 22.ALL OTHER DISCOUNTS SRC/SENIOR CITIZEN PSGR 62 OR OLDER - NO DISCOUNT. 23.MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS THIS FARE MAY NOT BE USED TO CALCULATE A DIFFERENTIAL. ‡25.FARE BY RULE NOT APPLICABLE. 26.GROUPS NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY. 27.TOURS NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY. 28.VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY. 29.DEPOSITS NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY. 31.VOLUNTARY CHANGES ENTER RD*31 OR RD‡LINE NUM‡*31 FOR VOLUNTARY CHGS. 35.NEGOTIATED FARES NOT APPLICABLE. IC.INTERNATIONAL CONSTRUCTION NOT A CONSTRUCTED FARE
#162
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Multiple locations
Programs: AAdvantage ExPlat LT Gold, BA Silver, Aegean Star Gold
Posts: 5,037
To view your receipt on line, go to the aa.com refund website here: aa.refunds
In the top/right section is a box that has a place to enter your Ticket Number and Passenger Last Name. Enter the information and proceed. You will see the Ticket Data, including the Fare Code, Ticket Status, etc..
PS....thank you thomdis for posting this. Good luck to all.
In the top/right section is a box that has a place to enter your Ticket Number and Passenger Last Name. Enter the information and proceed. You will see the Ticket Data, including the Fare Code, Ticket Status, etc..
PS....thank you thomdis for posting this. Good luck to all.
the case could be made that a regular consumer is not aware of fare rules and assumes that the fare displayed on a website/seating options and later confirmations emails describing this as a First class fare...
Also these tickets are 1200-1600, the base fare was 549 each way... This is not a case of 40 dollars fares (plus 500 in taxes) ala BA India, so that should work in our AAdvantage...
maybe I'm way too optimistic, but I would love for this to be a honored fare... 12 days in Australia and the A380!, even the 762 in First would add another cabin/plane to my list... let's see what happens...
#164
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: NYC
Posts: 204
What kind of compensation did BA offer to affected passengers apart from refunds of non-cancellable reservations, if any? Honestly though, I would estimate that upwards of 750 tickets were issued; if they really do sell for $20K each, then ~$14M is being lost on this.
#165
Join Date: Jan 2005
Programs: Shiny metal ones that go clink.
Posts: 132
Still available in Germany?
Heard a guy talking about this on a radio station in Sydney as I drove home today. Ran to check online, but no dice... its been well and truly pulled.
Seems like it's on the newswires:
http://airreview.911mb.com/News/Story/136.htm
And it sounds like those in Germany may get lucky too...
Seems like it's on the newswires:
http://airreview.911mb.com/News/Story/136.htm
And it sounds like those in Germany may get lucky too...