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(Fare Gone) AA: LAX-SYD in (QF) FIRST $1242 AI

(Fare Gone) AA: LAX-SYD in (QF) FIRST $1242 AI

Old Jan 6, 2010, 10:51 pm
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Old Jan 6, 2010, 11:04 pm
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I tried (many times) but didn't get any luck with this.

However good luck to those who managed to get theirs ticketed (I do hope it sticks for you guys) but I sense that this error will end up like the W Hong Kong error rate, and QF (AA) may say "Ok, guys, we can't give it to you for $1,200 as it was an error (and you guys should have known that) but we'll let you have it for $5,000 return".

Anyway, good luck and thanks to the OP for the heads up (but this time I was too slow to benefit).
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Old Jan 6, 2010, 11:06 pm
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Seemed to be available 20 mins ago on Travelocity, before it told me the fare had change to 25k at checkout..
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Old Jan 6, 2010, 11:08 pm
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WOW.
Congrats to the OP. Nice find. It's amazing when these "slip-ups" happen.

And in F Class

I was alerted to one earlier this year, SYD-PER-PHD, for only $38 a.i on QF. whY class, still, it doesn't compare to something like this. WOW.

Now, the waiting game begins...will they follow through and honor it or not?

If l had of known, l would have jumped on a grabbed one ASAP.

Fingers crossed to all those people who were lucky enough to get one!
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Old Jan 6, 2010, 11:30 pm
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booked on priceline - itin shows up on aa.com and priceline in F, have 017 ticket numbers, how do I find out fare basis?

I do not want to call the airline!!!!

thanks!

ps I understand if it is not honored (not saying its right) - just dont want to show up at LAX and find out I'm sitting in Y ...
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Old Jan 6, 2010, 11:33 pm
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Originally Posted by DullesJason
This describes what's potentially bad about this. Whether booked on AA.com or whether you had seats pre-assigned in F, I think the very fact that this is a Q fare, which is obviously coach, will allow AA to downgrade and do so without a full refund. So if this Q fare basis is true, I don't think anyone who booked this has much leverage.
why would they be able to downgrade without a full refund? they sold it to us as F, picked F on boooking engine, not Y - if they dont honor it = full refund, imho
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Old Jan 6, 2010, 11:37 pm
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Originally Posted by ordogg
why would they be able to downgrade without a full refund? they sold it to us as F, picked F on boooking engine, not Y - if they dont honor it = full refund, imho
Exactly - even if they pulled something like that, your credit card company would have no hesitation in reversing the change on the basis that they have not supplied what was paid for.
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Old Jan 6, 2010, 11:41 pm
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Instructions on how to look up your ticket/fare/etc.

To view your receipt on line, go to the aa.com refund website here: aa.refunds

In the top/right section is a box that has a place to enter your Ticket Number and Passenger Last Name. Enter the information and proceed. You will see the Ticket Data, including the Fare Code, Ticket Status, etc..

PS....thank you thomdis for posting this. Good luck to all.
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FYI -

Code:
From: Los Angeles, CA (LAX-Los Angeles Intl.)
To: Sydney, N.S.W., Australia (SYD-All Airports)
(and return)
Fare Basis Code: QB0QP1Y  
 
    V FARE BASIS     BK    FARE   TRAVEL-TICKET AP  MINMAX  RTG
  1A  QB0QP1Y        A R  1098.00        T26JA  -/‡  -/ 6M PA01
PASSENGER TYPE-ADT                 AUTO PRICE-YES              
FROM-LAX TO-SYD    CXR-AA    TVL-01MAR10  RULE-PA55 IPRP/3
FARE BASIS-QB0QP1Y           SPECIAL FARE  DIS-E   VENDOR-ATP
FARE TYPE-XAP      RT-REGULAR APEX
USD   938.00   MPM  E07JAN10 D-INFINITY   FC-QB0QP1Y  FN-4A   
SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 06JAN10/1721  EXPIRES INFINITY
 
50.RULE APPLICATION AND OTHER CONDITIONS
   NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT
   VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
   PROMOTIONAL FARES BETWEEN AREA 3 AND AREA 1
   APPLICATION
    AREA
     THESE FARES APPLY 
      BETWEEN AREA 3/AREA 1.
    CLASS OF SERVICE
     THESE FARES APPLY FOR ECONOMY CLASS SERVICE.
    TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
     FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
      ONE-WAY/ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS.
     THESE FARES MAY BE USED FOR INDIVIDUAL INCLUSIVE
      TOURS.
    CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
     THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS
      CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY
      THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE
      AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS,
      WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN
      FLIGHT, WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIER$S BEST
      JUDGEMENT.
    RULES NOT APPLICABLE
     35 PASSENGER EXPENSES EN ROUTE.
01.ELIGIBILITY
   NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
02.DAY/TIME
   NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
03.SEASONALITY
   PERMITTED 07FEB10 THROUGH 30APR10 ON THE OUTBOUND
   TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR. SEASON IS BASED ON DATE OF
   ORIGIN.
04.FLIGHT APPLICATION
   THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
       ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
           ANY AS FLIGHT
           AA FLIGHTS 6750 THROUGH 7128
           AA FLIGHTS 7454 THROUGH 7637
           AA FLIGHTS 8050 THROUGH 8099.
   AND
   THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH
   TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR BUT NOT ON
       ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
         AA FLIGHTS 7950 THROUGH 7969.
   AND
   THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH
   TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR ON
       ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
         AA FLIGHTS 7290 THROUGH 7423.
05.ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING
   CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS.
   WHEN RESERVATIONS ARE MADE AT LEAST 7 DAYS BEFORE
   DEPARTURE, TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 3 DAYS
   AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE.
         NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
          FOR TRAVEL AGENCY BOOKINGS MADE IN MEXICO / THE
          CARIBBEAN / CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA - AA WILL
          ASSESS A USD 25.00 FEE ON ANY UNTICKETED
          RESERVATION NOT CANCELED BEFORE DEPARTURE.
   OR - CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL
        SECTORS.
        TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 1 DAY AFTER
        RESERVATIONS ARE MADE.
         NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
          FOR TRAVEL AGENCY BOOKINGS MADE IN MEXICO / THE
          CARIBBEAN / CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA - AA WILL
          ASSESS A USD 25.00 FEE ON ANY UNTICKETED
          RESERVATION NOT CANCELED BEFORE DEPARTURE.
06.MINIMUM STAY
   NO MINIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
07.MAXIMUM STAY
   TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN
   MIDNIGHT 6 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
08.STOPOVERS
   NO STOPOVERS PERMITTED.
09.TRANSFERS
   2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION
        BETWEEN AA AND QF IN AUSTRALIA/NEW ZEALAND
        IN EACH DIRECTION.
   AND - UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION
           ANY COMBINATION OF THE FOLLOWING -
            UNLIMITED ONLINE ON AA.
         FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED
         ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
10.COMBINATIONS
    DOUBLE OPEN JAWS NOT PERMITTED.
    ADD-ONS PERMITTED.
   END-ON-END
     END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ADJACENT
     LINE OF FLIGHT FARE COMPONENTS ONLY. TRAVEL MUST BE
     VIA THE POINT OF COMBINATION.
     END-ON-END NOTE -
       ADDONS NOT PERMITTED
   OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
     FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
     WITH AA FARES
     -TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS
     -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS EXCEPT FOR AROUND-THE-WORLD
      FARES
     -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS WITH AA FARES EXCEPT FOR
      AROUND-THE-WORLD FARES.
     PROVIDED -
       COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE IN RULE 7100/8005
       IN TARIFF
       PAMAAR  - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 3 VIA PAC
       OR ANY RULE IN TARIFF
       IPRP    - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA PAC
       IPRPC   - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 VIA PAC
       IPRSAAS - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 3 VIA PAC.
11.BLACKOUT DATES
   NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.
12.SURCHARGES
   IF INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2.
   OR - CONTRACT BULK INFANT PSGR UNDER 2.
   OR - MILITARY INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 2.
   OR - NEGOTIATED INFANT PSGR UNDER 2.
   OR - INCLUSIVE TOUR INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2.
     SECURITY SURCHARGE OF HKD 33 PER COUPON WILL BE
     ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM/TO/
     VIA HKG AIRPORT.
         NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
          SURCHARGE APPLIES TO -
            1/  INFANTS
            2/  PASSENGERS TRANSFERRING/TRANSITING HONG KONG
            3/  PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON INDUSTRY/AGENGY
                DISCOUNT /ID/AD/ TICKETS
            4/  PASSENGERS HOLDING DIPLOMATIC PASSPORTS
   SECURITY SURCHARGE OF HKD 33 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED
   TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM/TO/VIA HKG
   AIRPORT.
         NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
          SURCHARGE APPLIES TO -
            1/  PASSENGERS TRANSFERRING/TRANSITING HONG KONG
            2/  PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON INDUSTRY/AGENGY
                DISCOUNT /ID/AD/ TICKETS
            3/  PASSENGERS HOLDING DIPLOMATIC PASSPORTS
     AND - TO UNITED STATES -
       AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF USD 4.80 PER COUPON
       WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ALL
       INTERNATIONAL SECTORS FROM/TO/VIA DFW.
     AND -
       MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 80.00 OR AUD
       85.00 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE
       FARE FOR DEPARTURE OF TRANSPACIFIC SECTORS.
     AND - ORIGINATING UNITED STATES -
       MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 170.00 PER
       COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR
       DEPARTURE OF TRANSATLANTIC SECTORS.
     AND - ORIGINATING AUSTRALIA -
       MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 140.00 PER
       COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR
       DEPARTURE OF TRANSATLANTIC SECTORS.
13.ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL
   ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.
14.TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS
   NO TRAVEL DATE RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
15.SALES RESTRICTIONS
   FOOTNOTE RULE
   TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 26JAN10.
 
   FARE RULE
   TICKETS MAY BE ISSUED BY PTA. PTA CONSTITUTES
   TICKETING.
16.PENALTIES
   CANCELLATIONS
   
     ANY TIME
       TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF CANCEL/NO-SHOW/
   REFUND.
       WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE/ILLNESS OR DEATH OF
          PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER.
         NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
          WAIVER ALSO APPLIES FOR TRAVELING COMPANION.
          TICKET HAS NO VALUE UNLESS TICKETED FLIGHTS
          ARE CANCELLED PRIOR TO TICKETED DEPARTURE TIME.
   
   CHANGES
   
     ANY TIME
       CHARGE USD 250.00.
       WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE/ILLNESS OR DEATH OF
          PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER.
         NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
          WAIVER ALSO APPLIES TO TRAVELING COMPANION.
          THE ORIGINAL NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS
          NON-REFUNDABLE.
          CHANGES ARE PERMITTED PRIOR TO THE
          TICKETED DEPARTURE TIME OF EACH FLIGHT PROVIDED
          THE NEW ITINERARY MEETS ALL THE PROVISIONS
          OF THE NEW FARE PURCHASED
          I.E. ADVANCE RESERVATION/TICKET PURCHASE MINIMUM
          /MAXIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS.
          ITINERARIES MAY BE REBOOKED AND TRAVEL MUST
          COMMENCE UP TO ONE YEAR FROM THE ORIGINAL
          TICKET ISSUE DATE PROVIDED TICKETED
          FLIGHT IS CANCELLED PRIOR TO TICKETED DEPARTURE
          TIME. IF TICKETED FLIGHT IS NOT CANCELLED PRIOR
          TO TICKETED DEPARTURE TIME TICKET HAS NO VALUE.
          TICKETS AT THESE FARES MAY NOT BE REVALIDATED
          TICKETS MUST BE REISSUED. FARE DIFFERENCE AND
          CHANGE FEE MUST BE PAID AND TICKETS MUST BE
          REISSUED WHEN THE ITINERARY IS REBOOKED.
          WHEN THE ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE
          DIFFERENCE WILL BE ADD COLLECTED AND THE
          USD 250.00 CHANGE FEE WILL APPLY.
          WHEN THE ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE NO
          REFUNDS WILL BE MADE HOWEVER THE DIFFERENCE IN
          FARE WILL BE RETURNED TO THE PASSENGER IN THE
          FORM OF A NON REFUNDABLE TRAVEL VOUCHER WHICH MAY
          BE APPLIED TOWARDS THE PURCHASE OF A TICKET VALID
          FOR TRANSPORTATION GOVERNED BY AA. THE USD 250.00
          CHANGE FEE WILL APPLY.
17.HIP/MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS
   NO HIP OR MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS APPLY.
18.TICKET ENDORSEMENTS
   THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED
   - NON REF/FEE ON CHANGE - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.
19.CHILDREN DISCOUNTS
   CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF
     THE FARE.
         TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
     MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
       COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER
     OR BY PRO PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
   OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 75
          PERCENT OF THE FARE.
              TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
          MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
            COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER
          OR BY PRO PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
   OR - INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 10
          PERCENT OF THE FARE.
              TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN.
          MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
            COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER
          OR BY PRO PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
   OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - NO DISCOUNT.
20.TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS
   TUR/TOUR CONDUCTOR PSGR - NO DISCOUNT.
21.AGENT DISCOUNTS
   AGT/AGENT PSGR - NO DISCOUNT.
22.ALL OTHER DISCOUNTS
   SRC/SENIOR CITIZEN PSGR 62 OR OLDER - NO
     DISCOUNT.
23.MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS
   THIS FARE MAY NOT BE USED TO CALCULATE A DIFFERENTIAL.      ‡25.FARE BY RULE
   NOT APPLICABLE.
26.GROUPS
   NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY.
27.TOURS
   NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.
28.VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY
   NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.
29.DEPOSITS
   NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.
31.VOLUNTARY CHANGES
   ENTER RD*31 OR RD‡LINE NUM‡*31 FOR VOLUNTARY CHGS.
35.NEGOTIATED FARES
   NOT APPLICABLE.
IC.INTERNATIONAL CONSTRUCTION
   NOT A CONSTRUCTED FARE
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Old Jan 6, 2010, 11:48 pm
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Just bought a reservation that I had held on AA.com. Here's hoping it gets ticketed and honored.

I am VERY excited to fly A380 F.

TYVM, OP.
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Old Jan 6, 2010, 11:50 pm
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Can they really rescind the tickets when they were issued using AA flight numbers?
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Old Jan 6, 2010, 11:51 pm
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Originally Posted by Robt760
To view your receipt on line, go to the aa.com refund website here: aa.refunds

In the top/right section is a box that has a place to enter your Ticket Number and Passenger Last Name. Enter the information and proceed. You will see the Ticket Data, including the Fare Code, Ticket Status, etc..

PS....thank you thomdis for posting this. Good luck to all.
the fare for this one pops up as QL0QP1Y , But, it did show up as First under AA.com/Orbitz/AA Emails/Orbitz emails etc...

the case could be made that a regular consumer is not aware of fare rules and assumes that the fare displayed on a website/seating options and later confirmations emails describing this as a First class fare...

Also these tickets are 1200-1600, the base fare was 549 each way... This is not a case of 40 dollars fares (plus 500 in taxes) ala BA India, so that should work in our AAdvantage...

maybe I'm way too optimistic, but I would love for this to be a honored fare... 12 days in Australia and the A380!, even the 762 in First would add another cabin/plane to my list... let's see what happens...
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Old Jan 6, 2010, 11:54 pm
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Originally Posted by londonienne
Can they really rescind the tickets when they were issued using AA flight numbers?
Well, BA did it.
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Old Jan 6, 2010, 11:55 pm
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What kind of compensation did BA offer to affected passengers apart from refunds of non-cancellable reservations, if any? Honestly though, I would estimate that upwards of 750 tickets were issued; if they really do sell for $20K each, then ~$14M is being lost on this.
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Old Jan 6, 2010, 11:58 pm
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Still available in Germany?

Heard a guy talking about this on a radio station in Sydney as I drove home today. Ran to check online, but no dice... its been well and truly pulled.

Seems like it's on the newswires:
http://airreview.911mb.com/News/Story/136.htm

And it sounds like those in Germany may get lucky too...
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