[FARE GONE] AA: PHX-DTW $124+ (no min, KUP fare!)
Aug 24, 2006, 3:20 am
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Aug 24, 2006, 4:20 am
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PHX-DFW-DTW-DFW-PHX is 3708 miles return.
A PLT or EXP would earn:
3708 flown miles
50% of flight mileage P class bonus
100% status bonus
Total: 9270 Miles earn
Also 5562 EQP (Elite Q Points) Earned
Members would also earn 1.5X Elite Qualifying Points, so two of these would complete a Platinum Challenge (10K Points required).
Tickets are Non-Refundable and do have a change penalty:
Too bad I can't get the full routing to price on this, I think because of flight number restrictions. The max routing would be PHX-SEA-DFW-DTW, 3753 miles each way. This fare rules do specify that routing but has a ton of flight restrictions. I bolded the one I think it preventing my routing below. (If only AA still flew PHX-LAX, that would have also been a sweet routing!)
Per Expedia, Routing rules:
I think my routing is being limitted because of what is says at the very end. Is that a correct reading of what it says (AA.com rules)?
A PLT or EXP would earn:
3708 flown miles
50% of flight mileage P class bonus
100% status bonus
Total: 9270 Miles earn
Also 5562 EQP (Elite Q Points) Earned
Members would also earn 1.5X Elite Qualifying Points, so two of these would complete a Platinum Challenge (10K Points required).
Tickets are Non-Refundable and do have a change penalty:
"CANCELLATIONS TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE. NOTE - TICKET HAS NO VALUE UNLESS PASSENGER CANCELS TICKETED FLIGHT RESERVATIONS PRIOR TO TICKETED DEPARTURE TIME. CHANGES CHARGE USD 100.00 FOR REISSUE. "
Per Expedia, Routing rules:
ROUTING 2 FROM DTT-AA-BNA-AA-DFW-
OR FROM DTT-AA-CHI-AA-SEA-
OR FROM DTT-AA-STL-
TO AA-SNA/SEA/LAX-AA-PHX*
OR FROM DTT-AA-CHI-AA-SEA-
OR FROM DTT-AA-STL-
TO AA-SNA/SEA/LAX-AA-PHX*
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AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING AA FLIGHTS 1 THROUGH 4 AA FLIGHT 10 AA FLIGHTS 18 THROUGH 19 AA FLIGHTS 21 THROUGH 22 AA FLIGHT 30 AA FLIGHTS 32 THROUGH 34 AA FLIGHTS 39 THROUGH 40 AA FLIGHT 85 AA FLIGHTS 117 THROUGH 118 AA FLIGHT 133 AA FLIGHTS 178 THROUGH 179 AA FLIGHTS 180 THROUGH 181 AA FLIGHT 185 AA FLIGHT 201 AA FLIGHT 242 AA FLIGHT 245 ON SAT. AND - FOR TRAVEL ON/AFTER 01AUG 06 AND ON/BEFORE 05SEP 06 THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING AA FLIGHTS 1 THROUGH 4 AA FLIGHT 10 AA FLIGHT 15 AA FLIGHTS 18 THROUGH 22 AA FLIGHT 30 AA FLIGHTS 32 THROUGH 34 AA FLIGHTS 39 THROUGH 40 AA FLIGHT 85 AA FLIGHTS 117 THROUGH 118 AA FLIGHT 133 AA FLIGHTS 180 THROUGH 181 AA FLIGHT 185 AA FLIGHT 201 AA FLIGHT 242 AA FLIGHT 245 ON SUN THROUGH FRI. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING AA FLIGHTS 1 THROUGH 4 AA FLIGHT 10 AA FLIGHT 15 AA FLIGHTS 18 THROUGH 22 AA FLIGHT 30 AA FLIGHTS 32 THROUGH 34 AA FLIGHTS 39 THROUGH 40 AA FLIGHT 85 AA FLIGHTS 117 THROUGH 118 AA FLIGHT 133 AA FLIGHTS 178 THROUGH 179 AA FLIGHTS 180 THROUGH 181 AA FLIGHT 185 AA FLIGHT 201 AA FLIGHT 242 AA FLIGHT 245 ON SAT. AND - FOR TRAVEL ON/AFTER 06SEP 06 AND ON/BEFORE 13DEC 06 THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING AA FLIGHTS 1 THROUGH 4 AA FLIGHT 10 AA FLIGHTS 15 THROUGH 16 AA FLIGHTS 19 THROUGH 22 AA FLIGHT 30 AA FLIGHTS 32 THROUGH 34 AA FLIGHTS 39 THROUGH 40 AA FLIGHT 59 AA FLIGHTS 117 THROUGH 118 AA FLIGHT 133 AA FLIGHTS 178 THROUGH 179 AA FLIGHTS 180 THROUGH 181 AA FLIGHT 185 AA FLIGHT 201 AA FLIGHT 242 AA FLIGHT 245 AA FLIGHT 383 AA FLIGHT 1520 ON SUN THROUGH FRI. 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AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING AA FLIGHTS 1 THROUGH 4 AA FLIGHT 10 AA FLIGHTS 15 THROUGH 16 AA FLIGHTS 18 THROUGH 22 AA FLIGHT 30 AA FLIGHTS 32 THROUGH 34 AA FLIGHTS 39 THROUGH 40 AA FLIGHT 59 AA FLIGHT 85 AA FLIGHTS 117 THROUGH 118 AA FLIGHT 133 AA FLIGHTS 178 THROUGH 179 AA FLIGHTS 180 THROUGH 181 AA FLIGHT 185 AA FLIGHT 201 AA FLIGHT 242 AA FLIGHT 245 AA FLIGHT 383 AA FLIGHT 1520 ON SAT. AND - FOR TRAVEL ON/AFTER 08APR 07 THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING AA FLIGHTS 1 THROUGH 4 AA FLIGHT 10 AA FLIGHTS 15 THROUGH 16 AA FLIGHTS 18 THROUGH 22 AA FLIGHT 30 AA FLIGHTS 32 THROUGH 34 AA FLIGHTS 39 THROUGH 40 AA FLIGHT 59 AA FLIGHT 85 AA FLIGHTS 117 THROUGH 118 AA FLIGHT 133 AA FLIGHTS 180 THROUGH 181 AA FLIGHT 185 AA FLIGHT 201 AA FLIGHT 242 AA FLIGHT 245 AA FLIGHT 383 AA FLIGHT 1520. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL FROM/TO/VIA DAL AIRPORT. 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Aug 24, 2006, 4:56 am
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Originally Posted by wanaflyforless
Can anyone tell me how many BA tier points this earns?
How many RT's would I need to get Gold, starting from scratch?
And how many redeemable miles earned in the process?
Thanks!
How many RT's would I need to get Gold, starting from scratch?
And how many redeemable miles earned in the process?
Thanks!
It would earn 60TPs per sector, so 240 r/t. If you can get a >2000 mile leg in there then that sector alone nets you 180TPS, so potentially 480 return.
For UK & US residents, 600 gets you Silver, then it's another 1500 to get Gold.
Aug 24, 2006, 5:07 am
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Originally Posted by Swiss Tony
Remember for BA status you must fly 4 point-earning sectors on BA metal. Unlike other OW carriers, they enforce this rule, so you're looking at a WT+ flight across to London then on to Europe and back ($800???) to make this work.
It would earn 60TPs per sector, so 240 r/t. If you can get a >2000 mile leg in there then that sector alone nets you 180TPS, so potentially 480 return.
For UK & US residents, 600 gets you Silver, then it's another 1500 to get Gold.
It would earn 60TPs per sector, so 240 r/t. If you can get a >2000 mile leg in there then that sector alone nets you 180TPS, so potentially 480 return.
For UK & US residents, 600 gets you Silver, then it's another 1500 to get Gold.
Aug 24, 2006, 5:14 am
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Originally Posted by Brian_1
What are the travel dates?
Do you book it on AA.com?
Whats this Platinum Challenge thingy everyone is going on about?
Questions, questions, questions!!!
B
Do you book it on AA.com?
Whats this Platinum Challenge thingy everyone is going on about?
Questions, questions, questions!!!
B
As stated by the OP, valid though end of sched.
Learn more about the AA challenge here: http://members.shaw.ca/fewmiles/AA/index2.html
Aug 24, 2006, 5:18 am
#12
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Originally Posted by wanaflyforless
Yes, it is bookable on AA.com (and elsewhere).
As stated by the OP, valid though end of sched.
Learn more about the AA challenge here: http://members.shaw.ca/fewmiles/AA/index2.html
As stated by the OP, valid though end of sched.
Learn more about the AA challenge here: http://members.shaw.ca/fewmiles/AA/index2.html
Now I'm tempted.
B
Aug 24, 2006, 5:30 am
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Sample Same day return from PHX:
Phoenix to Detroit: PHX to DTW American DFW Tue, Nov 14 8:32a-:15p 5h 43m First (with a 50 min connection in DFW)
Detroit to Phoenix: DTW to PHX American DFW Wed, Nov 15 4:55p-9:20p 6h 25m First (with a 50 min connection in DFW)
*This only gives 40 minutes in DTW to turn, but it should not be a problem as I'm 99% sure it will be the same plane, and AA.com now lets you check-in for your same day return!
Sample Same day return from DTW:
DTW to PHX American DFW Tue, Nov 14 8:55a-2:15p 7h 20m First (Via Dallas with 1:45 conx)
PHX to DTW American ORD Wed-Thur, Nov 15-16 3:50p-12:05a 6h 15m First (Via Dallas with 1:45 conx)
Phoenix to Detroit: PHX to DTW American DFW Tue, Nov 14 8:32a-:15p 5h 43m First (with a 50 min connection in DFW)
Detroit to Phoenix: DTW to PHX American DFW Wed, Nov 15 4:55p-9:20p 6h 25m First (with a 50 min connection in DFW)
*This only gives 40 minutes in DTW to turn, but it should not be a problem as I'm 99% sure it will be the same plane, and AA.com now lets you check-in for your same day return!
Sample Same day return from DTW:
DTW to PHX American DFW Tue, Nov 14 8:55a-2:15p 7h 20m First (Via Dallas with 1:45 conx)
PHX to DTW American ORD Wed-Thur, Nov 15-16 3:50p-12:05a 6h 15m First (Via Dallas with 1:45 conx)
Aug 24, 2006, 6:09 am
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OK, not sure if it is worth doing but at 150% miles for F this would earn 5570 BA miles per RT and take 5 RTs to get BA Gold from these alone (60 tier points/seg = 240 RT x 5 = 1200 tier points = Gold for non-UK European BA act).
As I already have AA EXP secured and may do some of these as bump runs, crediting to BA might be a good idea.
As I already have AA EXP secured and may do some of these as bump runs, crediting to BA might be a good idea.
Last edited by wanaflyforless; Aug 24, 2006 at 7:58 am