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The fare allows you to travel on the island hopper (UA132/133) westbound and/or eastbound. HKG or MNL are both possible turnarounds and the fare is combinable with NH either way.

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  • Jan 19: westleyl, jayhawk17
  • Mar 18: Mateuszz
  • Mar 31: johnnywho,jetsflier

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  • Feb 4: Spectre17, daisyatl
  • Apr 1: johnnywho, jetsflier
  • May 13: sexykitten7
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Old Feb 18, 18, 3:04 pm
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Originally Posted by sexykitten7 View Post
Ahh ok. Just wanted to make sure you knew what you were buying. And I hear GUM is also an island
Technically, HKG is on an island also!
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Old Feb 19, 18, 3:47 pm
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Having followed this thread since it started and played around for hours on Google Flights, I think I know the answer to this question but I'll ask anyway: Is there any way whatsoever to get something between 1 and 24 hours in both Micronesia and the Marshall Islands using this fare construction? I'm visiting every country in the world and these two are expensive to reach, but I think are worth longer than the 40-60 minutes you might get stepping off and back on the same plane. Only TKK seems to get an "extra" flight the day before the Island Hopper but the fare jumps up when you try and force this stop.

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Old Feb 19, 18, 11:26 pm
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I don't think so, but you could probably get off the flight and "miss" the connection. However, I don't think the Island Hopper is a daily flight so you would be stuck on the island for a couple days at least...
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Old Feb 20, 18, 12:12 am
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Possibly via SDC/Standby?

Originally Posted by kingstontoon View Post
Having followed this thread since it started and played around for hours on Google Flights, I think I know the answer to this question but I'll ask anyway: Is there any way whatsoever to get something between 1 and 24 hours in both Micronesia and the Marshall Islands using this fare construction? I'm visiting every country in the world and these two are expensive to reach, but I think are worth longer than the 40-60 minutes you might get stepping off and back on the same plane. Only TKK seems to get an "extra" flight the day before the Island Hopper but the fare jumps up when you try and force this stop.

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I'd advise against "missing the connection" as others have pointed out. The last thing you want to do is be stranded on a far away island and have to fork out hundreds or thousands to ensure service recovery.

An option to consider is performing a same-day change. What you could (in theory) do is call up UA on the day before your scheduled flight to TKK and request to be put on the earlier TKK flight that day (this can also be done online via the United desktop site).It may also be possible to request this change at the airport, some UA agents over there are former Continental Mike agents who are known to provide this flexibility to customers. The cost to perform the same day change is $75 (or free if you're UA Gold or above) with no fare difference change. There's no guarantee this will work since it depends on the availability of seats in the fare class you booked. It might also be possible to request standby for the earlier flight and would be based on whether Y was full for that flight.

If this scheme does work then you would be in TKK for a day while maintaining the rest of the itinerary.

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Old Feb 20, 18, 7:37 am
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Originally Posted by kingstontoon View Post
Having followed this thread since it started and played around for hours on Google Flights, I think I know the answer to this question but I'll ask anyway: Is there any way whatsoever to get something between 1 and 24 hours in both Micronesia and the Marshall Islands using this fare construction? I'm visiting every country in the world and these two are expensive to reach, but I think are worth longer than the 40-60 minutes you might get stepping off and back on the same plane. Only TKK seems to get an "extra" flight the day before the Island Hopper but the fare jumps up when you try and force this stop.

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Which direction (PNI-TKK, or GUM-TKK) are you flying? And, what date are you flying (or, at the very least, what day of the week)?
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Old Feb 21, 18, 8:02 am
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Originally Posted by mpiotrow View Post
Which direction (PNI-TKK, or GUM-TKK) are you flying? And, what date are you flying (or, at the very least, what day of the week)?
(Thanks to those who responded previously).

I'm flexible. I could fly this route in either direction and pretty much any time from April onwards. As the flights generally operate at the same times on the same days each week, I'm working on the assumption if it doesn't work one week it won't work any week in that timetable period.

If you can find something though I'll buy you a pint in Guam!
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Old Feb 21, 18, 1:20 pm
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Originally Posted by mpiotrow View Post
Which direction (PNI-TKK, or GUM-TKK) are you flying? And, what date are you flying (or, at the very least, what day of the week)?
Originally Posted by kingstontoon View Post
I'm flexible. I could fly this route in either direction and pretty much any time from April onwards. As the flights generally operate at the same times on the same days each week, I'm working on the assumption if it doesn't work one week it won't work any week in that timetable period.
The reason I'm asking was due to the schedule for each direction. From what I can tell, the PNI-TKK departure times are as follows:
  • Saturday around 3pm
  • Sunday around 2am
  • Monday around 3pm
  • Tuesday around 3pm
  • Thursday around 3pm
So, to me it looks like if you're wanting to SDC to an earlier flight from PNI-TKK that your only option is to book the Sunday flight, and hope that you can SDC to the Saturday afternoon flight instead, which only gets you there ~10 hours earlier than the Sunday middle of the night flight. This would give you time in TKK from ~3:30pm on Saturday until 3:30am on Sunday when the flight to GUM departs.

If you're going the other direction, here's the departure times for GUM-TKK:
  • Friday around 8am
  • Saturday around 8pm
  • Sunday around 8am
  • Monday around 8am
  • Wednesday around 8am
Again, to me it looks like if you're wanting to SDC to an earlier flight from GUM-TKK that your only option is to book the Sunday flight, and hope that you can SDC to the Saturday evening flight instead, which gets you there ~11 hours earlier than the Sunday morning flight. This would give you time in TKK from 10pm on Saturday until ~11am on Sunday when the flight to PNI departs.

Or am I looking at this all wrong? haha
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Old Mar 16, 18, 10:49 am
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Doing the Island Hopper!

Thanks to the info in this thread, i finally booked the Island Hopper. Flying in/out of EWR on May 5th.

This is my first post. Long time lurker...
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Old Mar 16, 18, 10:55 am
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Thanks to the info in this thread, i finally booked the Island Hopper. Flying in/out of EWR on May 5th.
I'm guessing you're not flying out of EWR to do the island hopper and will flying back into EWR on the say day, right? Have a great trip!! The island hopper is still on my bucket list to do someday!

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This is my first post. Long time lurker...
Technically it's your 2nd post ...here's your first post: LINK But, anyway, welcome (back) to FT!
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Old May 7, 18, 5:58 am
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After schedule change I was on direct GUM-HNL. Called in to revert and now I am UA133 via TKK, PNI, KSA and MAJ. However, each segment is listed individually on the reservation at ua.com.

On positive side, I will get more PQMs and I'm CPU eligible for GUM-MAJ.

Do I need to worry about the not scanning the boarding passes at TKK, PNI etc? Appreciate the suggestions. thank you!
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Old May 7, 18, 6:49 am
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you'll be fine, it won't let you check-in on your phone so you have to check in manually at the airport, where you'll get the printed boarding passes.
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Old May 7, 18, 8:11 am
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Is this deal still active? Could someone post a google flight link?
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Old May 17, 18, 12:24 am
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Trip Report - Island Hopper Ticketing

I stumbled across this wonderful find by @ck3kk last October (actually on my birthday): LAX-SFO-HKG-GUM-TKK-PNI-KSA-MAJ-HNL-LAX for $450 which includes an eastbound island hopper (IH) on the return. Since it’s a HKG fare, you cannot stop in GUM. In fact, the longest connection was 4 hours so I basically flew non-stop for 2.5 days (aka the Lucky method). Ticketed for 11MAY since it was the farthest out (e.g. warmest weather). I did the same for a $450 SAN-EUR fare last year. Although in retrospect, May was almost too warm for the South Pacific.

While I used to live in SAN, I am now in sunny PWM so I had to position (preferably with some recovery time as suggested here). Booked a great revenue sale PWM-EWR-SFO-SAN outbound for $121-- the lowest SAN-PWM fare I’ve ever seen and it stuck around for over a month IIRC! Used a discounted coach award (10k) to get to LAX. Coming back I was going to do LAX-SAN//SAN-PWM but realized that would cost too many miles (22.5k). Remembered that UA has wacky award routings and sure enough, they were selling LAX-SAN(red-eye)ORD-PWM for 12.5k. The only problem was I wanted to stop in SAN, not connect. I took my chances on an SDC. After all, I could still fly home “early” if I felt up to it. Normally I’d book these awards as revenue fares for status but I plan on falling to Silver next year because I’m starting grad school (again).

So one IH and 3 positioning itins later I was all set. Not! While GUM-HNL nonstop is not CPU eligible, the IH segments are. The trouble is in the ticketing. They were ticketed as a direct flight (aka thru flight) and thus, one would need upgrade space on all segments in order to clear. Not good odds. The trick is to split the segments so you can clear individually. I was lucky and got an agent to do a force split on my first call. Shortly after splitting, I checked the upgrade offers. The mileage upgrade (MUA) offer was unbelievable! Only $75+20k miles compared to the regular price of $1200+60k miles. I took it in a heartbeat and all IH segments cleared instantly while the rest were waitlisted.

My biggest fear was misconnecting before I got to the IH segments. Flights to SAN went well. The trouble started with the SAN-LAX. It posted a 30 min ATC delay which we expected to worsen. I got a lovely agent in SAN to rebook me SAN-SFO nonstop (She cancelled the award ticket and changed the first IH itin segment to SAN-SFO). Crisis averted. Rest of it went off without a hitch. SFO-HKG cleared into Polaris at T-24 and HKG-GUM and HNL-LAX were battlefield upgrades. Only coach segment was the impromptu SAN-SFO rebook. Also caught an upgrade on LAX-SAN so that made 9 first class flights in a row

I was gonna wait until SAN to SDC my return but I thought I’d try at LAX. Well the agents can’t really touch award tickets so I had to call in. Got a fabulous agent who pushed my SAN-PWM segments out 2 days so I now had my free stopover LAX-SAN//SAN-EWR-PWM. I really wanted the same itin as my outbound (SAN-SFO-EWR-PWM) for the ps free food (the old fashioned is amazing) so I reticketed that with tight connections (35 and 49 min). There was saver space for both changes. Well that plan went downhill when the SAN-SFO flight posted an ATC delay (seeing a pattern here) that would have blown my connections. Protected on the original itin SAN-EWR-PWM, boarded, rolling ATC delay on tarmac, eventually took off and landed 1 hr late. EWR-PWM was delayed but they soon cancelled it. The next day’s 5 flights were completely booked. I spent the night at a not-so-nearby hotel and trudged back around noon to waitlist for the 12:30 fight out. Was already overbooked and went out even (no SBYs). Thankfully I got on the 3 pm flight and made it back to PWM.

In summary, an eventful trip in all the right places. And I’m done traveling for the year. Thanks to everyone for all the helpful info.


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Old May 17, 18, 7:07 am
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I am trying to search for this in Google Flights. How do you force the Island Hopper between GUM and HNL?
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Old May 17, 18, 8:01 am
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Originally Posted by sexykitten7 View Post
So one IH and 3 positioning itins later I was all set. Not! While GUM-HNL nonstop is not CPU eligible, the IH segments are. The trouble is in the ticketing. They were ticketed as a direct flight (aka thru flight) and thus, one would need upgrade space on all segments in order to clear. Not good odds. The trick is to split the segments so you can clear individually. I was lucky and got an agent to do a force split on my first call. Shortly after splitting, I checked the upgrade offers. The mileage upgrade (MUA) offer was unbelievable! Only $75+20k miles compared to the regular price of $1200+60k miles. I took it in a heartbeat and all IH segments cleared instantly while the rest were waitlisted.

My biggest fear was misconnecting before I got to the IH segments. Flights to SAN went well. The trouble started with the SAN-LAX. It posted a 30 min ATC delay which we expected to worsen. I got a lovely agent in SAN to rebook me SAN-SFO nonstop (She cancelled the award ticket and changed the first IH itin segment to SAN-SFO). Crisis averted. Rest of it went off without a hitch. HKG-SFO cleared into Polaris at T-24 and HKG-GUM and HNL-LAX were battlefield upgrades. Only coach segment was the impromptu SAN-SFO rebook. Also caught an upgrade on LAX-SAN so that made 9 first class flights in a row
Sounds like you had a great trip! I'd love to do that one day! I have a few questions, though...
  1. How do you get an agent to split the ticket? Were there any key words you need to use? What did you ask the agent specifically? I don't have an upcoming IH flight, but figure it might be useful for other flights, if need be.
  2. You mentioned the MUA offer for $75 and 20k miles. Was that for the whole route? Or just 1 direction or the other? When I've done a MUA offer before (for another flight, not an IH itinerary), it's been for either the outbound or the return, but doesn't cover all segments.
  3. You mentioned "HKG-SFO cleared into Polaris", but I think you mean "SFO-HKG cleared into Polaris", correct? Just thought you might want to update the trip report.
  4. You really got upgraded into Polaris on the SFO-HKG segment for part of the $75 and 20k miles MUA?!?! Wow!
Originally Posted by salisboss View Post
I am trying to search for this in Google Flights. How do you force the Island Hopper between GUM and HNL?
Having never done this before, I'm guessing you just need to make sure you select a day of the week that the IH flies and then you should be able to select it as one of the options between GUM and HNL. I'm not sure if there's more to it than that, though...
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