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Old Jul 5, 2017, 8:33 am
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Transportation options from HGH to Hangzhou city center or PVG. Please add your name and your itinerary if you are interested in meeting other fellow FTers.
1) Taxi to Hangzhou city center, about 100 RMB ($15) for the entire party, not per person, walking from international terminal to domestic terminal (i.e., right turn after you get outside of the international terminal building), you will see taxi queue.
2) Shuttle bus, 20 RMB ($3), to Wulinmen CAAC Ticket Office or East Railway Station Line (two most popular options). The waiting hall for the shuttle bus is at Gate 10 (you can purchase ticket at Gate 14, too) Arrival Hall, on the first floor of the terminal building. Further details, see https://www.travelchinaguide.com/cit...ation.htm#hang
3) Shuttle from Hangzhou city center to PVG, 110 RMB, 3.5 hours: a) Wulinmen Ticket Office Central Hangzhou to PVG: (5:30, 6:10, 7:00, 8:00, 9:00, 10:00, 11:00, 12:00, 13:00, 14:00, 15:00, 16:00, 17:00)
b) Hangzhou Dragon Sports Center to PVG, 110 RMB, (7:00, 8:30, 10:30, 12:30, 14:30, 16:00
). Further details, see https://traveladept.com/bus-pudong-hangzhou/
4) Train from Hangzhou East station to Shanghai Hongqiao; less than 100 RMB (~1 hr); then you can take Subway Line #2 to PVG, ~10 RMB and 2 hrs; or shuttle bus (Airport Line #1), about 1 hr, 30 RMB ($4.5), every 15 - 25 minutes. The Hangzhou East ticketing windows are located on 1st Floor, EAST Area of the station. Please allow 20-30 minutes for walking to 2nd floor departure, and security check. The frequency of Hangzhou-Hongqiao trains is as good as that of subways in many US cities.
5) Getting cash at HGH The international terminal at HGH (where you arrive) only has an exchange vendor with hefty fees that is open limited hours. However, the adjacent domestic terminal has a bank ATM. To get to the entrance of the domestic terminal, exit the international terminal and keep walking right, past the taxi stand. Then enter and take the escalator to the second floor. The bank ATM will be on your left, next to the escalator.
6 Getting TWOV without issues The advice is to print out your itinerary, hotel reservation, etc., to speed up the procedure at the entry point in China. At SFO, the check-in agents were clueless, so be prepared to get there very early and fight for your boarding passes. Please read the last few pages on this thread for first-hand experiences. Good luck. There is a thread on FT for further details. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/china...hread-231.html

ATM To get to the entrance of the domestic terminal, exit the international terminal and keep walking right, past the taxi stand. Then enter and take the escalator to the second floor. The bank ATM will be on your left, next to the escalator.

Travel information for Beijing and airport:
Beijing will have 2 hubs starting Sept 30,2019. PEK (Beijing Capital International Airport) is original main hub and will continue for Star Alliance flights and Cathay Pacific (including subsidiary Cathay Dragon Air). PKX (Beijing Daxing International Airport, will debut Sept 30, 2019)
planned for airlines of the SkyTeam alliance and One World Alliance (AA, BA, etc. except Cathay Pacific) will be relocated to the new airport. Most flyers taking advantage of this China OJ deal will continue fly through PEK. Some people who use positioning flights through Beijing using non-Star Alliance airlines need to make sure you are flying into PEK, or else need 2hr ground transportation from PKX to PEK.
PEK allows TWOV within 24hr to stay inside security zone airside. This is more convenient for immediate turn than Shanghai-PVG, which force all passengers to exit immigration and customs, then re-check in from land side, even if you have immediate turn within 24hr.

Who are going? When for outbound and inbound? Routing from major hubs:
July 2017

August 2017
Quinlanty: Aug 3, ORD-HKG-HGH; Aug 7, PVG-LAX-SFO-IAH-ORD-YYZ (see post #284 for a brief report on TWOV procedure at HGH).

September 2017
Kmxu: 1 Sept, IAD-HNL-GUM-, 3 Sept, GUM-PVG; 4 Sept, PVG-SFO-ORD
Quinlanty; Sep 1, IAD-HNL-GUM; Sept 3, GUM-PVG, Sep 4, PVG-SFO-ORD-YYZ
pushmyredbutton: Sept 1; SFO-HNL-GUM-HKG Sept 3rd: HKG-HGH, Sept 4th: PVG-SFO
X31: 8 Sept BTV-EWR-SFO-HKG-HGH; 11 Sept PVG-NRT; 12 Sept HND-SFO-IAH-EWR; 13 Sept EWR-YUL
Kmxu + 3: 9 Sept, IAD-SFO-HKG-HGH; 12 Sept, PVG-SFO-IAD
techdarko: 12 Sept, SFO-HKG; 14 Sept, HKG-HGH; 16 Sept, PVG-SFO
Quinlanty: Sep 14; SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 18, PVG-SFO-YVR
bencanfly: Sep 14, SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 18, PVG-SFO-IAD
tde211: Sept 17, SFO-HKG-HGH; Oct 18 - PVG-SFO-YVR
Fishleafer: Sep 20, SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 26, PVG-SFO-YVR
X31: 21 Sept BTV-EWR-HNL-GUM-HKG; 23 Sept HKG-HGH; 25 Sept PVG-SFO-IAH-EWR; 26 Sept EWR-YUL
985X: Sept 22, LAX-SFO-HKG; Sept 23, HKG-HGH; Sept 25, PVG-LAX; Sept 26, LAX-YVR
flyingstudent: Sept 23: SFO-HGH
netoreisinger: 30 Sept, BOS-EWR-HKG-HGH; 4 Oct, PVG-SFO-ORD-YUL

October 2017
gba: Oct 22, SFO-HKG-HGH; Oct 29: PVG-NRT-SEA-YVR
beyounged: Oct 24, SAN-SFO-HKG, Oct 26, HKG-HGH, Nov 8, PVG-HND-YVR
as219: Oct 26, LGA-ORD-HKG (+1); Oct 30: HKG-SFO-EWR-YUL (+1)
X31: 26 Oct BTV-ORD-HKG; 28 Oct HKG-HGH; 30 Oct PVG-SFO; 31 Oct SFO-ORD-YUL
riphamilton +1: Oct 27, BOS-EWR-HNL-GUM-HKG (+1); Oct 30: HKG-GUM-NRT; Oct 31: NRT-ORD-YUL

November 2017
Quinlanty: Nov 3, BOS-EWR-HKG-HGH; Nov 6, HGH-SFO-IAH-ORD-YYZ
pushmyredbutton: Nov 19: BDL-ORD-HKG-HGH, Nov 27 HGH HKG-SFO-(YVR)
Davistev: Nov26, LAX-NRT-PVG

December 2017
Kmxu: Dec 1, IAH-HNL-GUM-HKG; Dec 3, HKG-HGH, Dec 4, PVG-SFO-IAD
X31: Dec 1, YUL-IAD-IAH; Dec 2, IAH-LAX-PVG; Dec 4, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL; Dec 4, HNL-EWR-BTV.

January 2018
Kewldude21: Jan 14 IAH-EWR-HKG Jan 16 HKG-HGH Jan 22 PVG-SFO-IAH
mpiotrow: Jan 21, ORD-SFO-KIX; Jan 23, KIX-HGH; Jan 24, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL-DEN-YYZ

February 2018

March 2018
Davistev: Mar03, PVG-SFO-YVR
flyer777lr: Mar 20, DEN-HNL-GUM; Mar 23, GUM-KIX (NH)-HGH; Mar 26, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL; Mar 27, HNL-EWR-YYZ
Kewldude21: Mar 22 IAH-EWR-HKG Mar 24 HKG-HGH Mar 28 HGH-PEK-SFO-IAH
flyme2: Mar 28, BTV-ORD-HKG; Mar 29: HKG-HGH; Apr 17: HKG-EWR-YUL
JetSetDave: Mar 29, EUG-SFO-HKG-HGH; April 3, PVG-SFO-EUG
Coeur 05: March 31, bos-sfo-hkg-pvg; April 5, PVG-lax-ord-yow

April 2018
ttyl: Apr 01 BTV-IAD-EWR-HKG; Apr 02 HKG-HGH; Apr 04 PVG-SFO-IAD-LGA-YUL
Toronto1970: April 6, EWR-ORD-HKG-HGH; April 13, CTU-SFO-EWR-YYZ
Exiled in Express: April 18, ORD-HKG-HGH; April 30, WUH-NRT-SEA-YVR
X31: Apr. 28 : BTV-EWR-HKG-HGH; May 1st : PVG-KIX; May 15th : ITM-HND-YVR-YYJ

May 2018
Kewldude21: May 3 IAH-SFO-HKG May 13 PEK-SFO-IAH

October 2018
KMXU, Oct. 18, IAD-SFO-HKG-HGH, Oct. 25, PVG-SFO-IAD

November 2018
KMXU, Nov. 14, ORD-HKG-XIY, Nov. 19, PEK-ORD

September 2019
xinliz Sept 4 SFO-NRT-PVG Sept 25 PEK-EWR-YOW
Flying Machine Sept 9 LAX-SFO-HKG Sept 10 HKG-HGH Sept 16 PVG-SFO-IAD

October 2019
kmxu: Oct 26, IAH-HNL-GUM-HKG, Oct. 27, HKG-XIY, Oct 30, CTU-SFO-IAH
wolfpacktrojan: Oct. 26, EWR-SFO-PVG, Oct. 28, PVG-NRT-SFO-YVR

November 2019
kmxuand his colleague: Nov 9, IAD-PEK, Nov 12, PEK-NRT-HNL-SFO-YYZ
kmxu's colleague: Nov 13, YYZ-IAD-NRT-PEK, Nov. 16, PEK-ORD
kmxu: Nov. 20, IAD-NRT-PEK, Nov. 22, PEK-EWR-YYZ
kmxu: Nov. 23, YYZ-IAD-NRT-PEK, Nov. 26, PEK-ORD
aquanine Nov 28: LAX-SFO-KIX, Nov 30: KIX-PEK, Dec 2: PEK-SFO-YVR

December 2019
kmxu: Nov. 30, IAD-NRT-PEK, Dec. 2, PEK-ORD-YYZ
kmxu: Dec. 3, YYZ-IAD-NRT-PEK, Dec. 6, PEK-ORD
jskang Dec 5, EWR-PVG, Dec 8, PEK-NRT-IAD-YOW

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Old Oct 4, 2018, 2:07 pm
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Originally Posted by Redwood839
5 minute difference on the Air Canada flight to YYZ?
haha, yep, that's one of them! I also had a 1 hour change on my LAX-SFO flight on the outbound, and no notification about that either...

[EDIT] My flight to YYZ has actually changed twice, I believe...both times extending the arrival time by 5 minutes. And my flight from HNL-KOA has been moved up by 20 minutes or so also. Lots of schedule changes, but luckily nothing that causes any problems (so far).[/EDIT]

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Old Oct 4, 2018, 2:16 pm
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Originally Posted by mpiotrow
haha, yep, that's one of them! I also had a 1 hour change on my LAX-SFO flight on the outbound, and no notification about that either...

[EDIT] My flight to YYZ has actually changed twice, I believe...both times extending the arrival time by 5 minutes. And my flight from HNL-KOA has been moved up by 20 minutes or so also. Lots of schedule changes, but luckily nothing that causes any problems (so far).[/EDIT]
Aw, how did you get a flight to KOA? I have a 12 hour layover in HNL but that's it.

Waiting on a major schedule change so I can move my departure to a day earlier. Currently only the change fee is being applied for that. Tried with the 5 minute change to make a scene but it didn't work
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Old Oct 4, 2018, 2:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Redwood839
Aw, how did you get a flight to KOA? I have a 12 hour layover in HNL but that's it.

Waiting on a major schedule change so I can move my departure to a day earlier. Currently only the change fee is being applied for that. Tried with the 5 minute change to make a scene but it didn't work
The KOA/OGG flights show up a lot when you force the connection break like this: HKG-HNL / HNL-SFO / SFO-YYY. Also, there's more R space on the non-HNL to mainland flights..
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Old Oct 4, 2018, 2:38 pm
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Originally Posted by Redwood839
Aw, how did you get a flight to KOA? I have a 12 hour layover in HNL but that's it.

Waiting on a major schedule change so I can move my departure to a day earlier. Currently only the change fee is being applied for that. Tried with the 5 minute change to make a scene but it didn't work
Looking at my reservation on the United website, it looks like it's booked as LAX-HKG, PEK-HNL, HNL-KOA, and KOA-YYZ. I can't remember if that's what I searched for in Google Flights or not in order to get it to price out the way I wanted. I have almost 11hrs in HNL, then fly to KOA and have 6.5 hrs there before flying to DEN.

Originally Posted by pushmyredbutton
The KOA/OGG flights show up a lot when you force the connection break like this: HKG-HNL / HNL-SFO / SFO-YYY. Also, there's more R space on the non-HNL to mainland flights..
I'm guessing that KOA-DEN requires an RPU for upgrades, just like HNL-DEN would, right?

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Old Oct 4, 2018, 3:40 pm
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Originally Posted by mpiotrow
Out of curiosity, what segment did they drop?

As for the notification email when a schedule changes, is there a way to sign up for that? I have 2 upcoming reservations, and each of them has had at least 1 arrival/departure time change, but they only way I know about it is when I randomly decide to login to view my reservation, and I see the info there.
they dropped sfo-den completely, gonna call and see if the can route through LAX
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Old Oct 4, 2018, 3:47 pm
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Originally Posted by whitethunder
they dropped sfo-den completely, gonna call and see if the can route through LAX
Your routing was [Other cites...]-HNL-SFO-DEN-YEG, and they dropped SFO-DEN, so now your routing is HNL-SFO/DEN-YEG, with no connection between SFO and DEN? Seems like you've got quite a case against them if they're making you find your own way from SFO to DEN. Or did they drop DEN-YEG also, and now your routing is HNL-SFO-YEG? I'm confused!
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Old Oct 4, 2018, 4:27 pm
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Originally Posted by mpiotrow
I'm guessing that KOA-DEN requires an RPU for upgrades, just like HNL-DEN would, right?
Yes, anything other than LAX or SFO from Hawaii eastbound requires an RPU to support it.
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Old Oct 5, 2018, 6:47 am
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Originally Posted by pushmyredbutton
Yes, anything other than LAX or SFO from Hawaii eastbound requires an RPU to support it.
Just check, cause I booked into K and I'm assuming most taking advantage of this did as well, and that's pretty down the ladder for RPU's and non existent for GPU
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Old Oct 5, 2018, 7:04 am
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Outbound island hopper?

I've been playing around with this trying to get the island hopper on the outbound (i.e. HNL-GUM) instead. Did anyone succeed with this?
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Old Oct 5, 2018, 9:08 am
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Originally Posted by Redwood839
Just check, cause I booked into K and I'm assuming most taking advantage of this did as well, and that's pretty down the ladder for RPU's and non existent for GPU
Yes, these routes are very very hard to clear on a CPU. My secret, if you're willing to go out of your way, is to route like this: Asia - GUM / GUM-HNL / HNL-ITO / ITO-LAX / LAX-YYY. The ITO-LAX route is insanely easy to CPU on, or grab a confirmed upgrade. I don't think it's worth it, however, if you are going beyond LAX, since the extra stop for a red-eye recliner isn't that fun.
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Old Oct 8, 2018, 8:27 am
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Originally Posted by pushmyredbutton
Yes, these routes are very very hard to clear on a CPU. My secret, if you're willing to go out of your way, is to route like this: Asia - GUM / GUM-HNL / HNL-ITO / ITO-LAX / LAX-YYY. The ITO-LAX route is insanely easy to CPU on, or grab a confirmed upgrade. I don't think it's worth it, however, if you are going beyond LAX, since the extra stop for a red-eye recliner isn't that fun.
Are CPU's available for K? I checked when I booked and they weren't. I don't mind though, I'm in this for the entire UA155 experience. Don't care if it's all in Y.
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Old Oct 8, 2018, 3:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Redwood839
Are CPU's available for K? I checked when I booked and they weren't. I don't mind though, I'm in this for the entire UA155 experience. Don't care if it's all in Y.
Yeah, for Hawaii to either SFO or LAX those flights are CPU-eligible, as long as it's a revenue (not-award) fare class and you're a premier member. In my experience, CPU success is best (but not a sure thing) on ITO-LAX, KOA-LAX/SFO, OGG-LAX/SFO, LIH-LAX/SFO, and HNL-LAX/SFO in descending order.
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Old Oct 12, 2018, 1:46 pm
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Island hopper flights - usually full?

Question to those who have done the hop at least once: How's the load? Are they usually full, empty average or varies?
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Old Oct 12, 2018, 3:52 pm
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Originally Posted by FLA77
Question to those who have done the hop at least once: How's the load? Are they usually full, empty average or varies?
why do not you check out this thread?
UA's Micronesia Island Hopper - consolidated questions, advice, ....
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Old Oct 13, 2018, 8:35 pm
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Originally Posted by Kmxu
Thanks. That’s a great resource. Even answers some questions I didn’t know I had!
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