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Old Jul 5, 2017, 8:33 am
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Transportation options from HGH to Hangzhou city center or PVG. Please add your name and your itinerary if you are interested in meeting other fellow FTers.
1) Taxi to Hangzhou city center, about 100 RMB ($15) for the entire party, not per person, walking from international terminal to domestic terminal (i.e., right turn after you get outside of the international terminal building), you will see taxi queue.
2) Shuttle bus, 20 RMB ($3), to Wulinmen CAAC Ticket Office or East Railway Station Line (two most popular options). The waiting hall for the shuttle bus is at Gate 10 (you can purchase ticket at Gate 14, too) Arrival Hall, on the first floor of the terminal building. Further details, see https://www.travelchinaguide.com/cit...ation.htm#hang
3) Shuttle from Hangzhou city center to PVG, 110 RMB, 3.5 hours: a) Wulinmen Ticket Office Central Hangzhou to PVG: (5:30, 6:10, 7:00, 8:00, 9:00, 10:00, 11:00, 12:00, 13:00, 14:00, 15:00, 16:00, 17:00)
b) Hangzhou Dragon Sports Center to PVG, 110 RMB, (7:00, 8:30, 10:30, 12:30, 14:30, 16:00
). Further details, see https://traveladept.com/bus-pudong-hangzhou/
4) Train from Hangzhou East station to Shanghai Hongqiao; less than 100 RMB (~1 hr); then you can take Subway Line #2 to PVG, ~10 RMB and 2 hrs; or shuttle bus (Airport Line #1), about 1 hr, 30 RMB ($4.5), every 15 - 25 minutes. The Hangzhou East ticketing windows are located on 1st Floor, EAST Area of the station. Please allow 20-30 minutes for walking to 2nd floor departure, and security check. The frequency of Hangzhou-Hongqiao trains is as good as that of subways in many US cities.
5) Getting cash at HGH The international terminal at HGH (where you arrive) only has an exchange vendor with hefty fees that is open limited hours. However, the adjacent domestic terminal has a bank ATM. To get to the entrance of the domestic terminal, exit the international terminal and keep walking right, past the taxi stand. Then enter and take the escalator to the second floor. The bank ATM will be on your left, next to the escalator.
6 Getting TWOV without issues The advice is to print out your itinerary, hotel reservation, etc., to speed up the procedure at the entry point in China. At SFO, the check-in agents were clueless, so be prepared to get there very early and fight for your boarding passes. Please read the last few pages on this thread for first-hand experiences. Good luck. There is a thread on FT for further details. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/china...hread-231.html

ATM To get to the entrance of the domestic terminal, exit the international terminal and keep walking right, past the taxi stand. Then enter and take the escalator to the second floor. The bank ATM will be on your left, next to the escalator.

Travel information for Beijing and airport:
Beijing will have 2 hubs starting Sept 30,2019. PEK (Beijing Capital International Airport) is original main hub and will continue for Star Alliance flights and Cathay Pacific (including subsidiary Cathay Dragon Air). PKX (Beijing Daxing International Airport, will debut Sept 30, 2019)
planned for airlines of the SkyTeam alliance and One World Alliance (AA, BA, etc. except Cathay Pacific) will be relocated to the new airport. Most flyers taking advantage of this China OJ deal will continue fly through PEK. Some people who use positioning flights through Beijing using non-Star Alliance airlines need to make sure you are flying into PEK, or else need 2hr ground transportation from PKX to PEK.
PEK allows TWOV within 24hr to stay inside security zone airside. This is more convenient for immediate turn than Shanghai-PVG, which force all passengers to exit immigration and customs, then re-check in from land side, even if you have immediate turn within 24hr.

Who are going? When for outbound and inbound? Routing from major hubs:
July 2017

August 2017
Quinlanty: Aug 3, ORD-HKG-HGH; Aug 7, PVG-LAX-SFO-IAH-ORD-YYZ (see post #284 for a brief report on TWOV procedure at HGH).

September 2017
Kmxu: 1 Sept, IAD-HNL-GUM-, 3 Sept, GUM-PVG; 4 Sept, PVG-SFO-ORD
Quinlanty; Sep 1, IAD-HNL-GUM; Sept 3, GUM-PVG, Sep 4, PVG-SFO-ORD-YYZ
pushmyredbutton: Sept 1; SFO-HNL-GUM-HKG Sept 3rd: HKG-HGH, Sept 4th: PVG-SFO
X31: 8 Sept BTV-EWR-SFO-HKG-HGH; 11 Sept PVG-NRT; 12 Sept HND-SFO-IAH-EWR; 13 Sept EWR-YUL
Kmxu + 3: 9 Sept, IAD-SFO-HKG-HGH; 12 Sept, PVG-SFO-IAD
techdarko: 12 Sept, SFO-HKG; 14 Sept, HKG-HGH; 16 Sept, PVG-SFO
Quinlanty: Sep 14; SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 18, PVG-SFO-YVR
bencanfly: Sep 14, SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 18, PVG-SFO-IAD
tde211: Sept 17, SFO-HKG-HGH; Oct 18 - PVG-SFO-YVR
Fishleafer: Sep 20, SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 26, PVG-SFO-YVR
X31: 21 Sept BTV-EWR-HNL-GUM-HKG; 23 Sept HKG-HGH; 25 Sept PVG-SFO-IAH-EWR; 26 Sept EWR-YUL
985X: Sept 22, LAX-SFO-HKG; Sept 23, HKG-HGH; Sept 25, PVG-LAX; Sept 26, LAX-YVR
flyingstudent: Sept 23: SFO-HGH
netoreisinger: 30 Sept, BOS-EWR-HKG-HGH; 4 Oct, PVG-SFO-ORD-YUL

October 2017
gba: Oct 22, SFO-HKG-HGH; Oct 29: PVG-NRT-SEA-YVR
beyounged: Oct 24, SAN-SFO-HKG, Oct 26, HKG-HGH, Nov 8, PVG-HND-YVR
as219: Oct 26, LGA-ORD-HKG (+1); Oct 30: HKG-SFO-EWR-YUL (+1)
X31: 26 Oct BTV-ORD-HKG; 28 Oct HKG-HGH; 30 Oct PVG-SFO; 31 Oct SFO-ORD-YUL
riphamilton +1: Oct 27, BOS-EWR-HNL-GUM-HKG (+1); Oct 30: HKG-GUM-NRT; Oct 31: NRT-ORD-YUL

November 2017
Quinlanty: Nov 3, BOS-EWR-HKG-HGH; Nov 6, HGH-SFO-IAH-ORD-YYZ
pushmyredbutton: Nov 19: BDL-ORD-HKG-HGH, Nov 27 HGH HKG-SFO-(YVR)
Davistev: Nov26, LAX-NRT-PVG

December 2017
Kmxu: Dec 1, IAH-HNL-GUM-HKG; Dec 3, HKG-HGH, Dec 4, PVG-SFO-IAD
X31: Dec 1, YUL-IAD-IAH; Dec 2, IAH-LAX-PVG; Dec 4, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL; Dec 4, HNL-EWR-BTV.

January 2018
Kewldude21: Jan 14 IAH-EWR-HKG Jan 16 HKG-HGH Jan 22 PVG-SFO-IAH
mpiotrow: Jan 21, ORD-SFO-KIX; Jan 23, KIX-HGH; Jan 24, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL-DEN-YYZ

February 2018

March 2018
Davistev: Mar03, PVG-SFO-YVR
flyer777lr: Mar 20, DEN-HNL-GUM; Mar 23, GUM-KIX (NH)-HGH; Mar 26, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL; Mar 27, HNL-EWR-YYZ
Kewldude21: Mar 22 IAH-EWR-HKG Mar 24 HKG-HGH Mar 28 HGH-PEK-SFO-IAH
flyme2: Mar 28, BTV-ORD-HKG; Mar 29: HKG-HGH; Apr 17: HKG-EWR-YUL
JetSetDave: Mar 29, EUG-SFO-HKG-HGH; April 3, PVG-SFO-EUG
Coeur 05: March 31, bos-sfo-hkg-pvg; April 5, PVG-lax-ord-yow

April 2018
ttyl: Apr 01 BTV-IAD-EWR-HKG; Apr 02 HKG-HGH; Apr 04 PVG-SFO-IAD-LGA-YUL
Toronto1970: April 6, EWR-ORD-HKG-HGH; April 13, CTU-SFO-EWR-YYZ
Exiled in Express: April 18, ORD-HKG-HGH; April 30, WUH-NRT-SEA-YVR
X31: Apr. 28 : BTV-EWR-HKG-HGH; May 1st : PVG-KIX; May 15th : ITM-HND-YVR-YYJ

May 2018
Kewldude21: May 3 IAH-SFO-HKG May 13 PEK-SFO-IAH

October 2018
KMXU, Oct. 18, IAD-SFO-HKG-HGH, Oct. 25, PVG-SFO-IAD

November 2018
KMXU, Nov. 14, ORD-HKG-XIY, Nov. 19, PEK-ORD

September 2019
xinliz Sept 4 SFO-NRT-PVG Sept 25 PEK-EWR-YOW
Flying Machine Sept 9 LAX-SFO-HKG Sept 10 HKG-HGH Sept 16 PVG-SFO-IAD

October 2019
kmxu: Oct 26, IAH-HNL-GUM-HKG, Oct. 27, HKG-XIY, Oct 30, CTU-SFO-IAH
wolfpacktrojan: Oct. 26, EWR-SFO-PVG, Oct. 28, PVG-NRT-SFO-YVR

November 2019
kmxuand his colleague: Nov 9, IAD-PEK, Nov 12, PEK-NRT-HNL-SFO-YYZ
kmxu's colleague: Nov 13, YYZ-IAD-NRT-PEK, Nov. 16, PEK-ORD
kmxu: Nov. 20, IAD-NRT-PEK, Nov. 22, PEK-EWR-YYZ
kmxu: Nov. 23, YYZ-IAD-NRT-PEK, Nov. 26, PEK-ORD
aquanine Nov 28: LAX-SFO-KIX, Nov 30: KIX-PEK, Dec 2: PEK-SFO-YVR

December 2019
kmxu: Nov. 30, IAD-NRT-PEK, Dec. 2, PEK-ORD-YYZ
kmxu: Dec. 3, YYZ-IAD-NRT-PEK, Dec. 6, PEK-ORD
jskang Dec 5, EWR-PVG, Dec 8, PEK-NRT-IAD-YOW

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Old Apr 11, 2018, 9:31 am
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Originally Posted by hauteboy
Houston consulate seems reluctant to give out 10-year. I applied for 10-year and they only gave me 6 months.
Interesting...I don't even see 60 day tourist visas (I'm assuming you were applying for a tourist visa, not a work visa, etc) as an option from the company I got mine from. Here is the link for visas from TX: https://www.passportsandvisas.com/vi...-united-states
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Old Apr 11, 2018, 9:54 am
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Originally Posted by hauteboy
Houston consulate seems reluctant to give out 10-year. I applied for 10-year and they only gave me 6 months.
Interesting, How long did you have left on your US passport?
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Old Apr 11, 2018, 11:11 am
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Originally Posted by hauteboy
Houston consulate seems reluctant to give out 10-year. I applied for 10-year and they only gave me 6 months.
That sounds strange. Did you apply directly or did you use an agency? Maybe it was a mistake?
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Old Apr 12, 2018, 1:27 pm
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Originally Posted by hauteboy
Houston consulate seems reluctant to give out 10-year. I applied for 10-year and they only gave me 6 months.
I clicked your OpenFlights.. did you put on your application that you've done business in Taiwan?
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Old Apr 16, 2018, 5:02 am
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Originally Posted by rmannion
I have one of these flights coming up with a tight (1 hour) connection in HKG onwards to CAN. Does anyone have experience with this? Will there be ground staff waiting at the gate?
FWIW, I collected my onward BP to CAN once landing in HKG, but unfortunately missed the flight. Two weeks later (!) my return leg was still intact and I successfully flew it home. Take from this what you will.
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Old Apr 16, 2018, 1:52 pm
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Question for all of you guys with S* Gold status flying similar routings:
Has any of you succeeded accessing any S*Gold lounges in HKG (SQ, UA, Thai) between the USA-HKG flight and the HKG-China on Cathay Dragon, either by showing your KA boarding pass or your UA incoming flight boarding pass?

I do know that even if flying on a UA ticket, the leg HKG-China is being operated by KA which is not a member of Star Alliance, so I figure no lounge access, but if any of your has succeeded it would be nice to know.
Maybe just buying a fully refundable one-way HKG-Somewhere on a Star Alliance airline could be useful for such situations...

Thanks!
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Old Apr 16, 2018, 1:58 pm
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If you are UA Gold, you can access the UA lounge at HKG since you arrived on UA metal. Other *G, you are out of luck.

(If you have a Platinum Amex, there is a new Centurion Lounge in HKG that you can use)
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Old Apr 16, 2018, 2:01 pm
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Originally Posted by Toronto1970
If you are UA Gold, you can access the UA lounge at HKG since you arrived on UA metal. Other *G, you are out of luck.

(If you have a Platinum Amex, there is a new Centurion Lounge in HKG that you can use)
Unfortunately I'm SQ Gold. It must be the first time I read of an advantage given to UA Gold over other S* Gold about lounge access!
I don't have the Platinum AMEX either.

Thanks for your help though
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Old Apr 16, 2018, 2:40 pm
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Originally Posted by Toronto1970
If you are UA Gold, you can access the UA lounge at HKG since you arrived on UA metal. Other *G, you are out of luck.

(If you have a Platinum Amex, there is a new Centurion Lounge in HKG that you can use)
Disagree! Arrival on UA carries no advantage as to entrance into *A Lounge; from experience, one needs to have DEPARTURE BP on another *A flight.
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Old Apr 16, 2018, 2:54 pm
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Originally Posted by cagcag
Disagree! Arrival on UA carries no advantage as to entrance into *A Lounge; from experience, one needs to have DEPARTURE BP on another *A flight.
I agree...other than arrivals lounges, I've never heard of lounges only looking at the BP from your arriving flight.
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Old Apr 16, 2018, 3:12 pm
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Originally Posted by cagcag
Disagree! Arrival on UA carries no advantage as to entrance into *A Lounge; from experience, one needs to have DEPARTURE BP on another *A flight.
Disagree with your disagreement! :-) OP can enter the UA Lounge in HK *if* his/her status is through United.

From https://www.united.com/web/en-US/con...ge/access.aspx :

If *G is from United:

A valid Star Alliance Gold membership card and a same-day boarding pass for travel on an international flight operated by a Star Alliance member airline (departure airport can be different from that of the United Club location being entered)

If *G is from another airline:

A valid Star Alliance Gold membership card and a same-day boarding pass for travel on a flight operated by a Star Alliance member airline and departing from the same airport
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Old Apr 16, 2018, 3:14 pm
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Originally Posted by cagcag
Disagree! Arrival on UA carries no advantage as to entrance into *A Lounge; from experience, one needs to have DEPARTURE BP on another *A flight.
No, this is incorrect. A UA arrival will allow entry into the UC club if a UA *G. It won't get you into any other *A lounge, however.
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Old Apr 16, 2018, 3:20 pm
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Originally Posted by Toronto1970
Disagree with your disagreement! :-) OP can enter the UA Lounge in HK *if* his/her status is through United.

From https://www.united.com/web/en-US/con...ge/access.aspx :

If *G is from United:

A valid Star Alliance Gold membership card and a same-day boarding pass for travel on an international flight operated by a Star Alliance member airline (departure airport can be different from that of the United Club location being entered)

If *G is from another airline:

A valid Star Alliance Gold membership card and a same-day boarding pass for travel on a flight operated by a Star Alliance member airline and departing from the same airport
Interesting! I'm trying to think if I've ever run across this situation, and I can't remember if I have. One question, though: Isn't the "same day" that's mentioned in your quote going to be a problem? Flying from USA to HKG, the BP will not be from the same day (because you will have departed the day before). I don't know if I'm just reading too much into that.
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Old Apr 16, 2018, 3:27 pm
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I used the UC at HKG when arriving from GUM with Business class ticket. I did not know that I could also enter the UC with an economy ticket on a UA flight arriving at HKG. My colleague did the latter recently. Hopefully, we can settle this question.
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Old Apr 16, 2018, 3:41 pm
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Originally Posted by mpiotrow
Interesting! I'm trying to think if I've ever run across this situation, and I can't remember if I have. One question, though: Isn't the "same day" that's mentioned in your quote going to be a problem? Flying from USA to HKG, the BP will not be from the same day (because you will have departed the day before). I don't know if I'm just reading too much into that.
By the strict interpretation of the words, you are correct. But that's not how the gate keepers of the lounge interpret it (or at least if they are doing their job correctly!). If you are coming off a *A flight and you are UA Gold or higher, you may enter the UA lounge at the arrival airport. (You might have a bit of a fight if you then connect to *another* airport and try using the UA lounge there, but I think at least in spirit it should be allowed!)
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