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Old Jul 5, 2017, 8:33 am
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Transportation options from HGH to Hangzhou city center or PVG. Please add your name and your itinerary if you are interested in meeting other fellow FTers.
1) Taxi to Hangzhou city center, about 100 RMB ($15) for the entire party, not per person, walking from international terminal to domestic terminal (i.e., right turn after you get outside of the international terminal building), you will see taxi queue.
2) Shuttle bus, 20 RMB ($3), to Wulinmen CAAC Ticket Office or East Railway Station Line (two most popular options). The waiting hall for the shuttle bus is at Gate 10 (you can purchase ticket at Gate 14, too) Arrival Hall, on the first floor of the terminal building. Further details, see https://www.travelchinaguide.com/cit...ation.htm#hang
3) Shuttle from Hangzhou city center to PVG, 110 RMB, 3.5 hours: a) Wulinmen Ticket Office Central Hangzhou to PVG: (5:30, 6:10, 7:00, 8:00, 9:00, 10:00, 11:00, 12:00, 13:00, 14:00, 15:00, 16:00, 17:00)
b) Hangzhou Dragon Sports Center to PVG, 110 RMB, (7:00, 8:30, 10:30, 12:30, 14:30, 16:00
). Further details, see https://traveladept.com/bus-pudong-hangzhou/
4) Train from Hangzhou East station to Shanghai Hongqiao; less than 100 RMB (~1 hr); then you can take Subway Line #2 to PVG, ~10 RMB and 2 hrs; or shuttle bus (Airport Line #1), about 1 hr, 30 RMB ($4.5), every 15 - 25 minutes. The Hangzhou East ticketing windows are located on 1st Floor, EAST Area of the station. Please allow 20-30 minutes for walking to 2nd floor departure, and security check. The frequency of Hangzhou-Hongqiao trains is as good as that of subways in many US cities.
5) Getting cash at HGH The international terminal at HGH (where you arrive) only has an exchange vendor with hefty fees that is open limited hours. However, the adjacent domestic terminal has a bank ATM. To get to the entrance of the domestic terminal, exit the international terminal and keep walking right, past the taxi stand. Then enter and take the escalator to the second floor. The bank ATM will be on your left, next to the escalator.
6 Getting TWOV without issues The advice is to print out your itinerary, hotel reservation, etc., to speed up the procedure at the entry point in China. At SFO, the check-in agents were clueless, so be prepared to get there very early and fight for your boarding passes. Please read the last few pages on this thread for first-hand experiences. Good luck. There is a thread on FT for further details. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/china...hread-231.html

ATM To get to the entrance of the domestic terminal, exit the international terminal and keep walking right, past the taxi stand. Then enter and take the escalator to the second floor. The bank ATM will be on your left, next to the escalator.

Travel information for Beijing and airport:
Beijing will have 2 hubs starting Sept 30,2019. PEK (Beijing Capital International Airport) is original main hub and will continue for Star Alliance flights and Cathay Pacific (including subsidiary Cathay Dragon Air). PKX (Beijing Daxing International Airport, will debut Sept 30, 2019)
planned for airlines of the SkyTeam alliance and One World Alliance (AA, BA, etc. except Cathay Pacific) will be relocated to the new airport. Most flyers taking advantage of this China OJ deal will continue fly through PEK. Some people who use positioning flights through Beijing using non-Star Alliance airlines need to make sure you are flying into PEK, or else need 2hr ground transportation from PKX to PEK.
PEK allows TWOV within 24hr to stay inside security zone airside. This is more convenient for immediate turn than Shanghai-PVG, which force all passengers to exit immigration and customs, then re-check in from land side, even if you have immediate turn within 24hr.

Who are going? When for outbound and inbound? Routing from major hubs:
July 2017

August 2017
Quinlanty: Aug 3, ORD-HKG-HGH; Aug 7, PVG-LAX-SFO-IAH-ORD-YYZ (see post #284 for a brief report on TWOV procedure at HGH).

September 2017
Kmxu: 1 Sept, IAD-HNL-GUM-, 3 Sept, GUM-PVG; 4 Sept, PVG-SFO-ORD
Quinlanty; Sep 1, IAD-HNL-GUM; Sept 3, GUM-PVG, Sep 4, PVG-SFO-ORD-YYZ
pushmyredbutton: Sept 1; SFO-HNL-GUM-HKG Sept 3rd: HKG-HGH, Sept 4th: PVG-SFO
X31: 8 Sept BTV-EWR-SFO-HKG-HGH; 11 Sept PVG-NRT; 12 Sept HND-SFO-IAH-EWR; 13 Sept EWR-YUL
Kmxu + 3: 9 Sept, IAD-SFO-HKG-HGH; 12 Sept, PVG-SFO-IAD
techdarko: 12 Sept, SFO-HKG; 14 Sept, HKG-HGH; 16 Sept, PVG-SFO
Quinlanty: Sep 14; SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 18, PVG-SFO-YVR
bencanfly: Sep 14, SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 18, PVG-SFO-IAD
tde211: Sept 17, SFO-HKG-HGH; Oct 18 - PVG-SFO-YVR
Fishleafer: Sep 20, SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 26, PVG-SFO-YVR
X31: 21 Sept BTV-EWR-HNL-GUM-HKG; 23 Sept HKG-HGH; 25 Sept PVG-SFO-IAH-EWR; 26 Sept EWR-YUL
985X: Sept 22, LAX-SFO-HKG; Sept 23, HKG-HGH; Sept 25, PVG-LAX; Sept 26, LAX-YVR
flyingstudent: Sept 23: SFO-HGH
netoreisinger: 30 Sept, BOS-EWR-HKG-HGH; 4 Oct, PVG-SFO-ORD-YUL

October 2017
gba: Oct 22, SFO-HKG-HGH; Oct 29: PVG-NRT-SEA-YVR
beyounged: Oct 24, SAN-SFO-HKG, Oct 26, HKG-HGH, Nov 8, PVG-HND-YVR
as219: Oct 26, LGA-ORD-HKG (+1); Oct 30: HKG-SFO-EWR-YUL (+1)
X31: 26 Oct BTV-ORD-HKG; 28 Oct HKG-HGH; 30 Oct PVG-SFO; 31 Oct SFO-ORD-YUL
riphamilton +1: Oct 27, BOS-EWR-HNL-GUM-HKG (+1); Oct 30: HKG-GUM-NRT; Oct 31: NRT-ORD-YUL

November 2017
Quinlanty: Nov 3, BOS-EWR-HKG-HGH; Nov 6, HGH-SFO-IAH-ORD-YYZ
pushmyredbutton: Nov 19: BDL-ORD-HKG-HGH, Nov 27 HGH HKG-SFO-(YVR)
Davistev: Nov26, LAX-NRT-PVG

December 2017
Kmxu: Dec 1, IAH-HNL-GUM-HKG; Dec 3, HKG-HGH, Dec 4, PVG-SFO-IAD
X31: Dec 1, YUL-IAD-IAH; Dec 2, IAH-LAX-PVG; Dec 4, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL; Dec 4, HNL-EWR-BTV.

January 2018
Kewldude21: Jan 14 IAH-EWR-HKG Jan 16 HKG-HGH Jan 22 PVG-SFO-IAH
mpiotrow: Jan 21, ORD-SFO-KIX; Jan 23, KIX-HGH; Jan 24, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL-DEN-YYZ

February 2018

March 2018
Davistev: Mar03, PVG-SFO-YVR
flyer777lr: Mar 20, DEN-HNL-GUM; Mar 23, GUM-KIX (NH)-HGH; Mar 26, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL; Mar 27, HNL-EWR-YYZ
Kewldude21: Mar 22 IAH-EWR-HKG Mar 24 HKG-HGH Mar 28 HGH-PEK-SFO-IAH
flyme2: Mar 28, BTV-ORD-HKG; Mar 29: HKG-HGH; Apr 17: HKG-EWR-YUL
JetSetDave: Mar 29, EUG-SFO-HKG-HGH; April 3, PVG-SFO-EUG
Coeur 05: March 31, bos-sfo-hkg-pvg; April 5, PVG-lax-ord-yow

April 2018
ttyl: Apr 01 BTV-IAD-EWR-HKG; Apr 02 HKG-HGH; Apr 04 PVG-SFO-IAD-LGA-YUL
Toronto1970: April 6, EWR-ORD-HKG-HGH; April 13, CTU-SFO-EWR-YYZ
Exiled in Express: April 18, ORD-HKG-HGH; April 30, WUH-NRT-SEA-YVR
X31: Apr. 28 : BTV-EWR-HKG-HGH; May 1st : PVG-KIX; May 15th : ITM-HND-YVR-YYJ

May 2018
Kewldude21: May 3 IAH-SFO-HKG May 13 PEK-SFO-IAH

October 2018
KMXU, Oct. 18, IAD-SFO-HKG-HGH, Oct. 25, PVG-SFO-IAD

November 2018
KMXU, Nov. 14, ORD-HKG-XIY, Nov. 19, PEK-ORD

September 2019
xinliz Sept 4 SFO-NRT-PVG Sept 25 PEK-EWR-YOW
Flying Machine Sept 9 LAX-SFO-HKG Sept 10 HKG-HGH Sept 16 PVG-SFO-IAD

October 2019
kmxu: Oct 26, IAH-HNL-GUM-HKG, Oct. 27, HKG-XIY, Oct 30, CTU-SFO-IAH
wolfpacktrojan: Oct. 26, EWR-SFO-PVG, Oct. 28, PVG-NRT-SFO-YVR

November 2019
kmxuand his colleague: Nov 9, IAD-PEK, Nov 12, PEK-NRT-HNL-SFO-YYZ
kmxu's colleague: Nov 13, YYZ-IAD-NRT-PEK, Nov. 16, PEK-ORD
kmxu: Nov. 20, IAD-NRT-PEK, Nov. 22, PEK-EWR-YYZ
kmxu: Nov. 23, YYZ-IAD-NRT-PEK, Nov. 26, PEK-ORD
aquanine Nov 28: LAX-SFO-KIX, Nov 30: KIX-PEK, Dec 2: PEK-SFO-YVR

December 2019
kmxu: Nov. 30, IAD-NRT-PEK, Dec. 2, PEK-ORD-YYZ
kmxu: Dec. 3, YYZ-IAD-NRT-PEK, Dec. 6, PEK-ORD
jskang Dec 5, EWR-PVG, Dec 8, PEK-NRT-IAD-YOW

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Old Aug 14, 2017, 12:49 am
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I just bought tickets (again) for a trip in Japan next year.

https://goo.gl/flights/v7Qj
Apr. 28 : BTV-EWR-HKG-HGH
May 1st : PVG-KIX
May 15th : ITM-HND-YVR-YYJ

Always wanted to visit Victoria and spend some time in Vancouver. Now, I will just have to find the right hidden city fare to get from Vancouver to Montreal after this vacation.

This deal will never stop to surprise me. Not only is it still bookable, but new dates seem to appear every day (last time I checked, nothing was available for april/may!)

I never though I would be able to spend a two-week vacation in Japan for 354 USD

(BTW, if someone could update the wiki to add this, thanks!)
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Old Aug 14, 2017, 4:33 am
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Originally Posted by X31
This deal will never stop to surprise me. Not only is it still bookable, but new dates seem to appear every day (last time I checked, nothing was available for april/may!)

I never though I would be able to spend a two-week vacation in Japan for 354 USD

(BTW, if someone could update the wiki to add this, thanks!)
I have added your trip to wiki.
Congratulations for booking such a nice vacation.
By the way, I would also say that FTers are amazing.
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Old Aug 14, 2017, 9:02 am
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Originally Posted by X31
I just bought tickets (again) for a trip in Japan next year.

https://goo.gl/flights/v7Qj
Apr. 28 : BTV-EWR-HKG-HGH
May 1st : PVG-KIX
May 15th : ITM-HND-YVR-YYJ

(...) for 354 USD
Nice creativity!

Too bad it doesn't seem possible to extend this deal East of Calgary (YUL for example).

Your example increases the possibilities which makes it even more complex to search. Also, unless I'm mistaken, you prove that the "rules" don't seem to count for much as I'm pretty sure I've seen "No Stopover in Japan".

Please post or PM me when you decide how to get back to YUL from BC.
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Old Aug 14, 2017, 9:37 am
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Have tried several days but still cannot pull a deal with stopover in Honolulu. I saw there's a date rule of no stopover in guam, but does that extend to honolulu?
Many thanks for every help!

Regards,
Michael
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Old Aug 14, 2017, 12:00 pm
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Originally Posted by FamTaYul
Nice creativity!

Too bad it doesn't seem possible to extend this deal East of Calgary (YUL for example).

Your example increases the possibilities which makes it even more complex to search. Also, unless I'm mistaken, you prove that the "rules" don't seem to count for much as I'm pretty sure I've seen "No Stopover in Japan".

Please post or PM me when you decide how to get back to YUL from BC.
Definitely not possible to end the trip in East Canada

I decided to extend the trip further and do this :
https://goo.gl/flights/QGqM (SEA-ORD-BTV)

I plan on taking the buses/ferry from Victoria to Vancouver (around 20$), spend some days in Vancouver, taking a bus from Vancouver to Seattle (around 15-20$), spend a day or two there, then the above flights, and finally another 20$ bus from Burlington to Montreal.

If wou want to go back from YVR to YUL and avoid paying >300 CAD, you can do this hidden city trip (YVR-YUL-PHL) for 217 CAD, plenty of dates available:
https://goo.gl/flights/YYXm
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Old Aug 14, 2017, 12:41 pm
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Old Aug 14, 2017, 1:47 pm
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Originally Posted by X31
(...)

If wou want to go back from YVR to YUL and avoid paying >300 CAD, you can do this hidden city trip (YVR-YUL-PHL) for 217 CAD, plenty of dates available:
https://goo.gl/flights/YYXm
On such a flight, do you clear US Customs before departing Vancouver or you have to pick-up your luggage in Montreal and clear US Customs there before going to Philadelphia?

I'd rather not mess with US Customs ...

- "Purpose of journey?"
- "e,e,e, tourism."
- "How long do you plan to stay in Philadelphia?"
- "e,e,e, I'm not sure, a few days..."
- "Do you have a ticket for going back to Canada?"
- "No..."

The joys of Hidden city ticketing... Not sure...
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Old Aug 14, 2017, 1:51 pm
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Originally Posted by FamTaYul
Your example increases the possibilities which makes it even more complex to search. Also, unless I'm mistaken, you prove that the "rules" don't seem to count for much as I'm pretty sure I've seen "No Stopover in Japan".
The return appears to be an NH fare without that specific stopover language. Note that you can change OSA to TYO if you prefer to spend time there. Or OJ OSA in, TYO out. Also can originate the outbound from HGH through TYO. At least that's what I'm finding playing around with a slightly different departure airport & terminating at YVR.

Trying to figure out how to get more than 1 hour layover in HKG on the outbound after the flights retime due to daylight saving time next spring. Stopovers aren't allowed so should be able to do up to 24 hours on an international itinerary without creating a stopover, no?
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Old Aug 14, 2017, 1:52 pm
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Originally Posted by FamTaYul
On such a flight, do you clear US Customs before departing Vancouver or you have to pick-up your luggage in Montreal and clear US Customs there before going to Philadelphia?

I'd rather not mess with US Customs ...

- "Purpose of journey?"
- "e,e,e, tourism."
- "How long do you plan to stay in Philadelphia?"
- "e,e,e, I'm not sure, a few days..."
- "Do you have a ticket for going back to Canada?"
- "No..."

The joys of Hidden city ticketing... Not sure...
You wouldn't deal with US Immigration (not customs) at all, since the pre-clearance would occur in YUL, but you'd jump ship and exit before then.
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Old Aug 14, 2017, 2:37 pm
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@pushmyredbutton: thank you for your reply. Good to know. Easy with the checked luggage then.


Originally Posted by rustykettel
(...)
Trying to figure out how to get more than 1 hour layover in HKG on the outbound after the flights retime due to daylight saving time next spring. Stopovers aren't allowed so should be able to do up to 24 hours on an international itinerary without creating a stopover, no?
The only way I see to get more time in HKG is to do HGH-HKG-XXX on the way back to North America. I have seen 13, 18 up to 21 hrs.
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Old Aug 14, 2017, 2:43 pm
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Originally Posted by FamTaYul
@pushmyredbutton: thank you for your reply. Good to know. Easy with the checked luggage then.




The only way I see to get more time in HKG is to do HGH-HKG-XXX on the way back to North America. I have seen 13, 18 up to 21 hrs.
Was able to get it for almost a day by routing EUG-SFO-HNL-GUM-HKG-HGH. However, when I got matrix power tools running to book, I couldn't pull it up anymore and now can't pull it up in the original window's matrix search. Still alive on Priceline with less than ideal dates from search... decisions...
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Old Aug 14, 2017, 10:57 pm
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Originally Posted by rustykettel
The return appears to be an NH fare without that specific stopover language. Note that you can change OSA to TYO if you prefer to spend time there. Or OJ OSA in, TYO out. Also can originate the outbound from HGH through TYO. At least that's what I'm finding playing around with a slightly different departure airport & terminating at YVR.

Trying to figure out how to get more than 1 hour layover in HKG on the outbound after the flights retime due to daylight saving time next spring. Stopovers aren't allowed so should be able to do up to 24 hours on an international itinerary without creating a stopover, no?
Yes — I can close to a day in HKG (but not >24h) routing BDL-ORD-HKG-HGH, HGH-NRT/HND-YVR, for the ridiculously low price of $274

https://www.google.com/flights/?f=0&...YVR0NH116;eo=e

So it should certainly be possible in the spring. Somehow can't seem to throw in a stop in TYO on this one though...

Edit: putting in a bunch of random dates in March seems to work as well: https://www.google.com/flights/?f=0&...,CX,KA,UA;eo=e same routing, same price.
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Old Aug 15, 2017, 4:38 am
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Originally Posted by FamTaYul

(...) The only way I see to get more time in HKG is to do HGH-HKG-XXX on the way back to North America. I have seen 13, 18 up to 21 hrs.
Forgot about the ORD/EWR-HKG way. I have been focussing on SFO - China. But at an average of +15 hours flight, how do you guys endure such long flights in coach?

Originally Posted by rustykettel
... routing EUG-SFO-HNL-GUM-HKG-HGH. (...)
Same thing for this routing: how do you endure +18 hours of flights (not counting the layovers) to reach HKG from SFO?

Love to fly, but not THAT much.
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Old Aug 15, 2017, 1:06 pm
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Originally Posted by FamTaYul
Same thing for this routing: how do you endure +18 hours of flights (not counting the layovers) to reach HKG from SFO?

Love to fly, but not THAT much.
For me, I chose the GUM routing because both SFO-HNL and GUM-HKG are eligible for CPUs/RPUs, so while not luxurious, 10/18 hours in First beats slugging it in coach the whole way.
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Old Aug 16, 2017, 12:24 pm
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I told my mom about this, as she is interestd in going back to China sometime this year. She just booked EWR-HKG-CAN, returning PVG-SFO-EWR-YYZ for $308 in Sept. Obviously, she will be dropping the EWR-YYZ part. Just want to confirm, she cannot check a bag, as after SFO, it'll go to YYZ?
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