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Transportation options from HGH to Hangzhou city center or PVG. Please add your name and your itinerary if you are interested in meeting other fellow FTers.
1) Taxi to Hangzhou city center, about 100 RMB ($15) for the entire party, not per person, walking from international terminal to domestic terminal (i.e., right turn after you get outside of the international terminal building), you will see taxi queue.
2) Shuttle bus, 20 RMB ($3), to Wulinmen CAAC Ticket Office or East Railway Station Line (two most popular options). The waiting hall for the shuttle bus is at Gate 10 (you can purchase ticket at Gate 14, too) Arrival Hall, on the first floor of the terminal building. Further details, see https://www.travelchinaguide.com/cit...ation.htm#hang
3) Shuttle from Hangzhou city center to PVG, 110 RMB, 3.5 hours: a) Wulinmen Ticket Office Central Hangzhou to PVG: (5:30, 6:10, 7:00, 8:00, 9:00, 10:00, 11:00, 12:00, 13:00, 14:00, 15:00, 16:00, 17:00)
b) Hangzhou Dragon Sports Center to PVG, 110 RMB, (7:00, 8:30, 10:30, 12:30, 14:30, 16:00
). Further details, see https://traveladept.com/bus-pudong-hangzhou/
4) Train from Hangzhou East station to Shanghai Hongqiao; less than 100 RMB (~1 hr); then you can take Subway Line #2 to PVG, ~10 RMB and 2 hrs; or shuttle bus (Airport Line #1), about 1 hr, 30 RMB ($4.5), every 15 - 25 minutes. The Hangzhou East ticketing windows are located on 1st Floor, EAST Area of the station. Please allow 20-30 minutes for walking to 2nd floor departure, and security check. The frequency of Hangzhou-Hongqiao trains is as good as that of subways in many US cities.
5) Getting cash at HGH The international terminal at HGH (where you arrive) only has an exchange vendor with hefty fees that is open limited hours. However, the adjacent domestic terminal has a bank ATM. To get to the entrance of the domestic terminal, exit the international terminal and keep walking right, past the taxi stand. Then enter and take the escalator to the second floor. The bank ATM will be on your left, next to the escalator.
6 Getting TWOV without issues The advice is to print out your itinerary, hotel reservation, etc., to speed up the procedure at the entry point in China. At SFO, the check-in agents were clueless, so be prepared to get there very early and fight for your boarding passes. Please read the last few pages on this thread for first-hand experiences. Good luck. There is a thread on FT for further details. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/china...hread-231.html

ATM To get to the entrance of the domestic terminal, exit the international terminal and keep walking right, past the taxi stand. Then enter and take the escalator to the second floor. The bank ATM will be on your left, next to the escalator.

Who are going? When for outbound and inbound? Routing from major hubs:
July

August
Quinlanty: Aug 3, ORD-HKG-HGH; Aug 7, PVG-LAX-SFO-IAH-ORD-YYZ (see post #284 for a brief report on TWOV procedure at HGH).

September
Kmxu: 1 Sept, IAD-HNL-GUM-, 3 Sept, GUM-PVG; 4 Sept, PVG-SFO-ORD
Quinlanty; Sep 1, IAD-HNL-GUM; Sept 3, GUM-PVG, Sep 4, PVG-SFO-ORD-YYZ
pushmyredbutton: Sept 1; SFO-HNL-GUM-HKG Sept 3rd: HKG-HGH, Sept 4th: PVG-SFO
X31: 8 Sept BTV-EWR-SFO-HKG-HGH; 11 Sept PVG-NRT; 12 Sept HND-SFO-IAH-EWR; 13 Sept EWR-YUL
Kmxu + 3: 9 Sept, IAD-SFO-HKG-HGH; 12 Sept, PVG-SFO-IAD
techdarko: 12 Sept, SFO-HKG; 14 Sept, HKG-HGH; 16 Sept, PVG-SFO
Quinlanty: Sep 14; SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 18, PVG-SFO-YVR
bencanfly: Sep 14, SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 18, PVG-SFO-IAD
tde211: Sept 17, SFO-HKG-HGH; Oct 18 - PVG-SFO-YVR
Fishleafer: Sep 20, SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 26, PVG-SFO-YVR
X31: 21 Sept BTV-EWR-HNL-GUM-HKG; 23 Sept HKG-HGH; 25 Sept PVG-SFO-IAH-EWR; 26 Sept EWR-YUL
985X: Sept 22, LAX-SFO-HKG; Sept 23, HKG-HGH; Sept 25, PVG-LAX; Sept 26, LAX-YVR
flyingstudent: Sept 23: SFO-HGH
netoreisinger: 30 Sept, BOS-EWR-HKG-HGH; 4 Oct, PVG-SFO-ORD-YUL

October
gba: Oct 22, SFO-HKG-HGH; Oct 29: PVG-NRT-SEA-YVR
beyounged: Oct 24, SAN-SFO-HKG, Oct 26, HKG-HGH, Nov 8, PVG-HND-YVR
as219: Oct 26, LGA-ORD-HKG (+1); Oct 30: HKG-SFO-EWR-YUL (+1)
X31: 26 Oct BTV-ORD-HKG; 28 Oct HKG-HGH; 30 Oct PVG-SFO; 31 Oct SFO-ORD-YUL
riphamilton +1: Oct 27, BOS-EWR-HNL-GUM-HKG (+1); Oct 30: HKG-GUM-NRT; Oct 31: NRT-ORD-YUL

November
Quinlanty: Nov 3, BOS-EWR-HKG-HGH; Nov 6, HGH-SFO-IAH-ORD-YYZ
pushmyredbutton: Nov 19: BDL-ORD-HKG-HGH, Nov 27 HGH HKG-SFO-(YVR)

December
Kmxu: Dec 1, IAH-HNL-GUM-HKG; Dec 3, HKG-HGH, Dec 4, PVG-SFO-IAD
X31: Dec 1, YUL-IAD-IAH; Dec 2, IAH-LAX-PVG; Dec 4, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL; Dec 4, HNL-EWR-BTV.

January
Kewldude21: Jan 14 IAH-EWR-HKG Jan 16 HKG-HGH Jan 22 PVG-SFO-IAH
mpiotrow: Jan 21, ORD-SFO-KIX; Jan 23, KIX-HGH; Jan 24, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL-DEN-YYZ

February

March
flyer777lr: Mar 20, DEN-HNL-GUM; Mar 23, GUM-KIX (NH)-HGH; Mar 26, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL; Mar 27, HNL-EWR-YYZ
Kewldude21: Mar 22 IAH-EWR-HKG Mar 24 HKG-HGH Mar 28 HGH-PEK-SFO-IAH
flyme2: Mar 28, BTV-ORD-HKG; Mar 29: HKG-HGH; Apr 17: HKG-EWR-YUL
JetSetDave: Mar 29, EUG-SFO-HKG-HGH; April 3, PVG-SFO-EUG
Coeur 05: March 31, bos-sfo-hkg-pvg; April 5, PVG-lax-ord-yow

April
ttyl: Apr 01 BTV-IAD-EWR-HKG; Apr 02 HKG-HGH; Apr 04 PVG-SFO-IAD-LGA-YUL
Toronto1970: April 6, EWR-ORD-HKG-HGH; April 13, CTU-SFO-EWR-YYZ
Exiled in Express: April 18, ORD-HKG-HGH; April 30, WUH-NRT-SEA-YVR
X31: Apr. 28 : BTV-EWR-HKG-HGH; May 1st : PVG-KIX; May 15th : ITM-HND-YVR-YYJ

May
Kewldude21: May 3 IAH-SFO-HKG May 13 PEK-SFO-IAH


October
KMXU, Oct. 18, IAD-SFO-HKG-HGH, Oct. 25, PVG-SFO-IAD

November
KMXU, Nov. 14, ORD-HKG-XIY, Nov. 19, PEK-ORD
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Old Jun 16, 18, 7:59 pm
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I had similar itineraries priced in $450s from the east coast (WAS, NYC).
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Old Jun 16, 18, 8:34 pm
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Originally Posted by br2k View Post
I had similar itineraries priced in $450s from the east coast (WAS, NYC).
Link?
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Old Jun 16, 18, 10:51 pm
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Link?
https://goo.gl/flights/juqdC

I just replaced LAX with WAS in the search above. Routes back through IAD
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Old Jun 17, 18, 5:40 am
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Originally Posted by Kmxu View Post
Well, I am not an expert on fare rule. If you can digest the fare rule for LAX-SFO-HKG, you may get some hints for the possible east coast originating flights. The RIC-HKG-XIY outbound may have a different fare rule from that of LAX-HKG outbound. You can get the fare rule on ITA Matrix search or united.com.
Good luck.
P.S.: If you do not mind scratching your head, here is a thread on fare rule/construction. https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-airlines-mileageplus/1914757-need-lesson-fare-quote-married-segments.html
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Old Jun 17, 18, 7:03 am
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Originally Posted by br2k View Post

https://goo.gl/flights/juqdC

I just replaced LAX with WAS in the search above. Routes back through IAD

Also works for BTV (Burlington Vermont), so for any Canadians from Montreal or Ottawa or Americans from Northeastern USA this works out fairly well:

https://www.google.com/flights#flt=B...051*.USD.42051

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Old Jun 19, 18, 10:24 am
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Originally Posted by Oj778 View Post
Also works for BTV (Burlington Vermont), so for any Canadians from Montreal or Ottawa or Americans from Northeastern USA this works out fairly well:

https://www.google.com/flights#flt=B...051*.USD.42051

Change the link above to start at ORD and it works, pricing out at $351. Non-stop both ways to HKG and return PEK non-stop to ORD.
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Old Jun 19, 18, 5:25 pm
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Change the link above to start at ORD and it works, pricing out at $351. Non-stop both ways to HKG and return PEK non-stop to ORD.
If you start out at SFO and end up in YVR then it prices to $299. SFO to HKG is nonstop. PEK to YVR has a stop in SFO.
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Old Jun 19, 18, 7:53 pm
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Change the link above to start at ORD and it works, pricing out at $351. Non-stop both ways to HKG and return PEK non-stop to ORD.
So this wouldn’t qualify for TWOV to go from HKG-XIY then for me to get a flight from XIY-PEK then onto PEK-ORc correct?
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Old Jun 20, 18, 2:12 am
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So this wouldn’t qualify for TWOV to go from HKG-XIY then for me to get a flight from XIY-PEK then onto PEK-ORc correct?
correct , no TWOV if you make internal flight in PRC.
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Old Jun 20, 18, 7:59 pm
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Originally Posted by ElJudioErrante View Post
correct , no TWOV if you make internal flight in PRC.
That is incorrect. TWOV is still possible for routings that include domestic connections - but in such cases the restriction is no more than 24 hours total inside China (and I think also a maximum of two internal flights).

Apologies to ElJudioErrante Just double checked by looking at Timatic, and it does look like the "24 hours/multiple stops inside China" TWOV option is no longer allowed. I wonder when that changed. Will investigate further ...

Follow up ... It seems that China now offers a (free) "Transit Visa on Arrival (TVOA) to cover at least some routings that previously would have been covered by the "TWOV 24 hour/multiple stops" allowance. This is fairly new so not many reports on FT about this yet. but it looks at least that it will be okay for the question raised above (i.e arrive from HKG into XIY and leave from PEK to USA with a domestic connection inside China and less than 24 hours between arrival into XIY and departure from PEK). More details in the Destinations/China TWOV/TVOA thread - latest post here https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29634062-post4270.html

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Old Jun 22, 18, 6:09 pm
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Anyone saw reverse routing for this fare? Leaving from Hong Kong or China to US?
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Old Jun 25, 18, 7:46 am
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I've always wanted to try the Island Hopper, but it was always so expensive...
Well, the deal is back and I was able not only to land in Hong Kong instead of China, but also to include the Island Hopper. All for 358 USD.

https://goo.gl/flights/zpAjW
LAX-HND-HKG / PEK-HND / NRT-GUM / GUM-TKK-PNI-KSA-KWA-MAJ-HNL / HNL-SFO-IAD-YUL

I'm truly amazed that the United website actually had no trouble at all with this creative routing
Has anyone been able to recreate this? I'd love to do this but the link doesn't work.

This exact schedule works for me as I can just hop off at SFO on the way back and take a cheap flight back to LAX. Couldn't recreate on GF.
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Old Jun 25, 18, 7:59 am
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Has anyone been able to recreate this? I'd love to do this but the link doesn't work.

This exact schedule works for me as I can just hop off at SFO on the way back and take a cheap flight back to LAX. Couldn't recreate on GF.
This work for you?

https://www.google.ca/flights/?f=0#f=0&flt=LAX.HKG.2018-10-18.LAXSFO0UA708~SFOHKG0UA869*PEK.GUM.2018-10-21.PEKNRT0NH956~NRTGUM0UA197*GUM.HNL.2018-10-22.GUMTKK0UA155~TKKPNI0UA155~PNIKSA0UA155~KSAKWA0U A155~KWAMAJ0UA155~MAJHNL0UA155*HNL.YYZ,YUL.2018-10-22.HNLLAX0UA1760~LAXYYZ0AC788;c:USD;e:1;sd:1;t:f;t t:m

Just do not get on the last leg out of LAX for YYZ
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Old Jun 25, 18, 11:42 am
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Originally Posted by NJSwamplands View Post
This work for you?

https://www.google.ca/flights/?f=0#f...;sd:1;t:f;tt:m

Just do not get on the last leg out of LAX for YYZ
Awesome! Thank you, just gotta find a way to position to LAX and this will be booked for sure. I appreciate it.
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Old Jun 25, 18, 1:01 pm
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Originally Posted by NJSwamplands View Post
This work for you?

https://www.google.ca/flights/?f=0#f...;sd:1;t:f;tt:m

Just do not get on the last leg out of LAX for YYZ
Any chance you (or anyone else) have seen anything for the island hopper for next year? I can't afford the time off for a trip this year!
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