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Transportation options from HGH to Hangzhou city center or PVG. Please add your name and your itinerary if you are interested in meeting other fellow FTers.
1) Taxi to Hangzhou city center, about 100 RMB ($15) for the entire party, not per person, walking from international terminal to domestic terminal (i.e., right turn after you get outside of the international terminal building), you will see taxi queue.
2) Shuttle bus, 20 RMB ($3), to Wulinmen CAAC Ticket Office or East Railway Station Line (two most popular options). The waiting hall for the shuttle bus is at Gate 10 (you can purchase ticket at Gate 14, too) Arrival Hall, on the first floor of the terminal building. Further details, see https://www.travelchinaguide.com/cit...ation.htm#hang
3) Shuttle from Hangzhou city center to PVG, 110 RMB, 3.5 hours: a) Wulinmen Ticket Office Central Hangzhou to PVG: (5:30, 6:10, 7:00, 8:00, 9:00, 10:00, 11:00, 12:00, 13:00, 14:00, 15:00, 16:00, 17:00)
b) Hangzhou Dragon Sports Center to PVG, 110 RMB, (7:00, 8:30, 10:30, 12:30, 14:30, 16:00
). Further details, see https://traveladept.com/bus-pudong-hangzhou/
4) Train from Hangzhou East station to Shanghai Hongqiao; less than 100 RMB (~1 hr); then you can take Subway Line #2 to PVG, ~10 RMB and 2 hrs; or shuttle bus (Airport Line #1), about 1 hr, 30 RMB ($4.5), every 15 - 25 minutes. The Hangzhou East ticketing windows are located on 1st Floor, EAST Area of the station. Please allow 20-30 minutes for walking to 2nd floor departure, and security check. The frequency of Hangzhou-Hongqiao trains is as good as that of subways in many US cities.
5) Getting cash at HGH The international terminal at HGH (where you arrive) only has an exchange vendor with hefty fees that is open limited hours. However, the adjacent domestic terminal has a bank ATM. To get to the entrance of the domestic terminal, exit the international terminal and keep walking right, past the taxi stand. Then enter and take the escalator to the second floor. The bank ATM will be on your left, next to the escalator.
6 Getting TWOV without issues The advice is to print out your itinerary, hotel reservation, etc., to speed up the procedure at the entry point in China. At SFO, the check-in agents were clueless, so be prepared to get there very early and fight for your boarding passes. Please read the last few pages on this thread for first-hand experiences. Good luck. There is a thread on FT for further details. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/china...hread-231.html

ATM To get to the entrance of the domestic terminal, exit the international terminal and keep walking right, past the taxi stand. Then enter and take the escalator to the second floor. The bank ATM will be on your left, next to the escalator.

Who are going? When for outbound and inbound? Routing from major hubs:
July

August
Quinlanty: Aug 3, ORD-HKG-HGH; Aug 7, PVG-LAX-SFO-IAH-ORD-YYZ (see post #284 for a brief report on TWOV procedure at HGH).

September
Kmxu: 1 Sept, IAD-HNL-GUM-, 3 Sept, GUM-PVG; 4 Sept, PVG-SFO-ORD
Quinlanty; Sep 1, IAD-HNL-GUM; Sept 3, GUM-PVG, Sep 4, PVG-SFO-ORD-YYZ
pushmyredbutton: Sept 1; SFO-HNL-GUM-HKG Sept 3rd: HKG-HGH, Sept 4th: PVG-SFO
X31: 8 Sept BTV-EWR-SFO-HKG-HGH; 11 Sept PVG-NRT; 12 Sept HND-SFO-IAH-EWR; 13 Sept EWR-YUL
Kmxu + 3: 9 Sept, IAD-SFO-HKG-HGH; 12 Sept, PVG-SFO-IAD
techdarko: 12 Sept, SFO-HKG; 14 Sept, HKG-HGH; 16 Sept, PVG-SFO
Quinlanty: Sep 14; SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 18, PVG-SFO-YVR
bencanfly: Sep 14, SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 18, PVG-SFO-IAD
tde211: Sept 17, SFO-HKG-HGH; Oct 18 - PVG-SFO-YVR
Fishleafer: Sep 20, SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 26, PVG-SFO-YVR
X31: 21 Sept BTV-EWR-HNL-GUM-HKG; 23 Sept HKG-HGH; 25 Sept PVG-SFO-IAH-EWR; 26 Sept EWR-YUL
985X: Sept 22, LAX-SFO-HKG; Sept 23, HKG-HGH; Sept 25, PVG-LAX; Sept 26, LAX-YVR
flyingstudent: Sept 23: SFO-HGH
netoreisinger: 30 Sept, BOS-EWR-HKG-HGH; 4 Oct, PVG-SFO-ORD-YUL

October
gba: Oct 22, SFO-HKG-HGH; Oct 29: PVG-NRT-SEA-YVR
beyounged: Oct 24, SAN-SFO-HKG, Oct 26, HKG-HGH, Nov 8, PVG-HND-YVR
as219: Oct 26, LGA-ORD-HKG (+1); Oct 30: HKG-SFO-EWR-YUL (+1)
X31: 26 Oct BTV-ORD-HKG; 28 Oct HKG-HGH; 30 Oct PVG-SFO; 31 Oct SFO-ORD-YUL
riphamilton +1: Oct 27, BOS-EWR-HNL-GUM-HKG (+1); Oct 30: HKG-GUM-NRT; Oct 31: NRT-ORD-YUL

November
Quinlanty: Nov 3, BOS-EWR-HKG-HGH; Nov 6, HGH-SFO-IAH-ORD-YYZ
pushmyredbutton: Nov 19: BDL-ORD-HKG-HGH, Nov 27 HGH HKG-SFO-(YVR)

December
Kmxu: Dec 1, IAH-HNL-GUM-HKG; Dec 3, HKG-HGH, Dec 4, PVG-SFO-IAD
X31: Dec 1, YUL-IAD-IAH; Dec 2, IAH-LAX-PVG; Dec 4, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL; Dec 4, HNL-EWR-BTV.

January
mpiotrow: Jan 21, ORD-SFO-KIX; Jan 23, KIX-HGH; Jan 24, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL-DEN

February

March
flyer777lr: Mar 20, DEN-HNL-GUM; Mar 23, GUM-KIX (NH)-HGH; Mar 26, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL; Mar 27, HNL-EWR-YYZ
mtndave47: Mar 29, EUG-SFO-HKG-HGH; April 3, PVG-SFO-YVR (YVR-SFO-EUG)
Coeur 05: March 31, bos-sfo-hkg-pvg; April 5, PVG-lax-ord-yow

April
Toronto1970: April 6, EWR-ORD-HKG-HGH; April 13, CTU-SFO-IAH-IAD-YYZ
Exiled in Express: April 18, ORD-HKG-HGH; April 30, WUH-NRT-SEA-YVR
X31: Apr. 28 : BTV-EWR-HKG-HGH; May 1st : PVG-KIX; May 15th : ITM-HND-YVR-YYJ
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Old Nov 13, 17, 5:51 pm
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I have heard that it is very difficult to find stores that will accept visa credit card in China. I plan to take taxi, eat out and try out a hair salon in Hangzhou or Shanghai. Is that the case for you all?

Also, is the Charles Schwab debit card exchange rate same as any other visa card exchange rate? I once used Charles Schwab debit card to withdraw money in Canada and the exchange rate was horrible.

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Old Nov 13, 17, 7:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Kkwong4 View Post
I have heard that it is very difficult to find stores that will accept visa credit card in China. I plan to take taxi, eat out and try out a hair salon in Hangzhou or Shanghai. Is that the case for you all?

Also, is the Charles Schwab debit card exchange rate same as any other visa card exchange rate? I once used Charles Schwab debit card to withdraw money in Canada and the exchange rate was horrible.
I would think that unless you're at larger stores, yes, using anything other than cash will be difficult.

As for exchanging money, are you talking about doing a cash advance on a Visa card by using it at an ATM? If so, unless I'm mistaken, you will be hit rather hard with cash advance fees. I always just withdraw money using my ATM card. Granted, my bank charges me a 3% fee for the international withdrawal, but I haven't found a better option...
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Old Nov 13, 17, 8:21 pm
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Originally Posted by Kkwong4 View Post
I have heard that it is very difficult to find stores that will accept visa credit card in China. I plan to take taxi, eat out and try out a hair salon in Hangzhou or Shanghai. Is that the case for you all?

Also, is the Charles Schwab debit card exchange rate same as any other visa card exchange rate? I once used Charles Schwab debit card to withdraw money in Canada and the exchange rate was horrible.
You'll probably get better answers in the China forum, but my experience from living in Hangzhou a couple years ago went like this:

- Most mid-range restaurants and shops (including western fast food) will accept Visa. Hole-in-the-wall joints and street food are cash-only or some local version of "Apple Pay"
- Again, I've found that most mid-range hair salons do accept Visa, but it's best to ask beforehand.
- I've yet to find a taxi that accepts Visa. If you use Didi you should be able to link an int'l Visa card.
- Schwab was and still is my go-to card for getting cash while overseas. The FX rate fluctuates, but I've found lately it matches what Google shows most of the time, although in fairness I'm not sure where Google pulls their data from. I noticed it was almost the exact same rate as my USAA debit card.

Personally I'd just take out a stack of RMB from your Schwab card since you can rest assured you'll never have problems with it being accepted anywhere. Occasionally I've had issues with foreign Visa's being processed...sometimes credit requiring a PIN, and weird things like that.
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Old Nov 14, 17, 8:48 am
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Originally Posted by pushmyredbutton View Post
You'll probably get better answers in the China forum, but my experience from living in Hangzhou a couple years ago went like this:

- Most mid-range restaurants and shops (including western fast food) will accept Visa. Hole-in-the-wall joints and street food are cash-only or some local version of "Apple Pay"
Most places (including train ticket windows) will take Alipay (similar to Apple Pay) and/or WeChat Wallet. I used the latter to pay taxi driver at PVG once. I can reserve/purchase a train ticket from Alipay App (no booking fees; but still need to get the physical ticket to board a train.). When I was in Hefei, even the street food stands took these payments. So, if you have Alipay/Wechat Wallet, you will travel in China. It is amazing!
Good luck.
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Old Nov 14, 17, 9:42 am
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Originally Posted by Kmxu View Post
....if you have Alipay/Wechat Wallet, you will travel in China. It is amazing!
Good luck.
The question is how do you open Alipay/WeChat accounts without Chinese phone number and bank account? I would love to but cannot find a way to do so.
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Old Nov 14, 17, 10:10 am
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Originally Posted by TerryK View Post
The question is how do you open Alipay/WeChat accounts without Chinese phone number and bank account? I would love to but cannot find a way to do so.
I have no personal experience if this works, but it seems to be possible...
http://www.smartshanghai.com/article...ay-this-is-how
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Old Nov 14, 17, 10:48 am
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Originally Posted by mpiotrow View Post
I have no personal experience if this works, but it seems to be possible...
http://www.smartshanghai.com/article...ay-this-is-how
Don't believe in this article. It's not possible to link your foreign bank card to Alipay or Wechat. They will only accept bank cards issued in China (excluding Hong Kong/Macau). Also they will require some form of true ID authentication, which only the Chinese can obtain.
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Old Nov 14, 17, 12:27 pm
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I do not know whether or not you can trust this article about adding credit cards in WeChat wallet. I have a Chinese credit card there, but have not tried to add a second credit card.
https://blog.passkit.com/how-to-add-...wechat-wallet/
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Old Nov 14, 17, 1:38 pm
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Originally Posted by pushmyredbutton View Post
You'll probably get better answers in the China forum, but my experience from living in Hangzhou a couple years ago went like this:

- Most mid-range restaurants and shops (including western fast food) will accept Visa. Hole-in-the-wall joints and street food are cash-only or some local version of "Apple Pay"
- Again, I've found that most mid-range hair salons do accept Visa, but it's best to ask beforehand.
- I've yet to find a taxi that accepts Visa. If you use Didi you should be able to link an int'l Visa card.
- Schwab was and still is my go-to card for getting cash while overseas. The FX rate fluctuates, but I've found lately it matches what Google shows most of the time, although in fairness I'm not sure where Google pulls their data from. I noticed it was almost the exact same rate as my USAA debit card.

Personally I'd just take out a stack of RMB from your Schwab card since you can rest assured you'll never have problems with it being accepted anywhere. Occasionally I've had issues with foreign Visa's being processed...sometimes credit requiring a PIN, and weird things like that.
Thank you for the information! Last time I used Schwab account in Canada, the exchange rate was horrible. I will try it again in China.
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Old Nov 14, 17, 3:39 pm
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Is this deal still around? How can I visit China or Hong Kong for a night or two from EWR for cheap in Thanksgiving?
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Old Nov 14, 17, 4:28 pm
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Originally Posted by Newyorker1905 View Post
Is this deal still around? How can I visit China or Hong Kong for a night or two from EWR for cheap in Thanksgiving?
Yes, it's still around. And you can do it by plugging in combinations of the flights that this thread mentions to see if anything works for you; you'll be quite limited due to domestic availability and the reduction of HKG flights due to Thanksgiving.

Hint: $354 https://goo.gl/flights/58dx, although the option to book only appears on some itineraries. May have to feed it through ITA and book from there.
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Old Nov 16, 17, 4:45 pm
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Skip HKG-HGH CX flight

Originally Posted by williamx View Post
Has anyone tried Not taking the flight from HKG-HGH, does it void the remaining flights? Can you still take remaining UA flights back to USA/Canada?

thanks
Thanks for everyone's response, although it is a mixed message. Anyone actually did it successfully or affirmative answer.
Looks like mobile pass/checkin is available via online website within 48hr.
I need to go to Shenzhen/Guangzhou across the border, but routing to HGH is quite a trouble going back to SZX/CAN, since domestic flights are often delayed in China, I might loose a day or two for this routing. Any destination airport in southern China (instead of HGH) offer similar discount? I tried CAN, but price is too high.

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Old Nov 16, 17, 6:06 pm
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From some dummy dates i tried, seems can add about 200, while wuh add only 100 and then you can take the gaotie to szx for 4 hours.

Add link: https://www.google.com/flights/?&gl=...106*.USD.66606
I'm quite sure this isn't the date with lowest price though...
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