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Old Jul 5, 2017, 8:33 am
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Transportation options from HGH to Hangzhou city center or PVG. Please add your name and your itinerary if you are interested in meeting other fellow FTers.
1) Taxi to Hangzhou city center, about 100 RMB ($15) for the entire party, not per person, walking from international terminal to domestic terminal (i.e., right turn after you get outside of the international terminal building), you will see taxi queue.
2) Shuttle bus, 20 RMB ($3), to Wulinmen CAAC Ticket Office or East Railway Station Line (two most popular options). The waiting hall for the shuttle bus is at Gate 10 (you can purchase ticket at Gate 14, too) Arrival Hall, on the first floor of the terminal building. Further details, see https://www.travelchinaguide.com/cit...ation.htm#hang
3) Shuttle from Hangzhou city center to PVG, 110 RMB, 3.5 hours: a) Wulinmen Ticket Office Central Hangzhou to PVG: (5:30, 6:10, 7:00, 8:00, 9:00, 10:00, 11:00, 12:00, 13:00, 14:00, 15:00, 16:00, 17:00)
b) Hangzhou Dragon Sports Center to PVG, 110 RMB, (7:00, 8:30, 10:30, 12:30, 14:30, 16:00
). Further details, see https://traveladept.com/bus-pudong-hangzhou/
4) Train from Hangzhou East station to Shanghai Hongqiao; less than 100 RMB (~1 hr); then you can take Subway Line #2 to PVG, ~10 RMB and 2 hrs; or shuttle bus (Airport Line #1), about 1 hr, 30 RMB ($4.5), every 15 - 25 minutes. The Hangzhou East ticketing windows are located on 1st Floor, EAST Area of the station. Please allow 20-30 minutes for walking to 2nd floor departure, and security check. The frequency of Hangzhou-Hongqiao trains is as good as that of subways in many US cities.
5) Getting cash at HGH The international terminal at HGH (where you arrive) only has an exchange vendor with hefty fees that is open limited hours. However, the adjacent domestic terminal has a bank ATM. To get to the entrance of the domestic terminal, exit the international terminal and keep walking right, past the taxi stand. Then enter and take the escalator to the second floor. The bank ATM will be on your left, next to the escalator.
6 Getting TWOV without issues The advice is to print out your itinerary, hotel reservation, etc., to speed up the procedure at the entry point in China. At SFO, the check-in agents were clueless, so be prepared to get there very early and fight for your boarding passes. Please read the last few pages on this thread for first-hand experiences. Good luck. There is a thread on FT for further details. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/china...hread-231.html

ATM To get to the entrance of the domestic terminal, exit the international terminal and keep walking right, past the taxi stand. Then enter and take the escalator to the second floor. The bank ATM will be on your left, next to the escalator.

Travel information for Beijing and airport:
Beijing will have 2 hubs starting Sept 30,2019. PEK (Beijing Capital International Airport) is original main hub and will continue for Star Alliance flights and Cathay Pacific (including subsidiary Cathay Dragon Air). PKX (Beijing Daxing International Airport, will debut Sept 30, 2019)
planned for airlines of the SkyTeam alliance and One World Alliance (AA, BA, etc. except Cathay Pacific) will be relocated to the new airport. Most flyers taking advantage of this China OJ deal will continue fly through PEK. Some people who use positioning flights through Beijing using non-Star Alliance airlines need to make sure you are flying into PEK, or else need 2hr ground transportation from PKX to PEK.
PEK allows TWOV within 24hr to stay inside security zone airside. This is more convenient for immediate turn than Shanghai-PVG, which force all passengers to exit immigration and customs, then re-check in from land side, even if you have immediate turn within 24hr.

Who are going? When for outbound and inbound? Routing from major hubs:
July 2017

August 2017
Quinlanty: Aug 3, ORD-HKG-HGH; Aug 7, PVG-LAX-SFO-IAH-ORD-YYZ (see post #284 for a brief report on TWOV procedure at HGH).

September 2017
Kmxu: 1 Sept, IAD-HNL-GUM-, 3 Sept, GUM-PVG; 4 Sept, PVG-SFO-ORD
Quinlanty; Sep 1, IAD-HNL-GUM; Sept 3, GUM-PVG, Sep 4, PVG-SFO-ORD-YYZ
pushmyredbutton: Sept 1; SFO-HNL-GUM-HKG Sept 3rd: HKG-HGH, Sept 4th: PVG-SFO
X31: 8 Sept BTV-EWR-SFO-HKG-HGH; 11 Sept PVG-NRT; 12 Sept HND-SFO-IAH-EWR; 13 Sept EWR-YUL
Kmxu + 3: 9 Sept, IAD-SFO-HKG-HGH; 12 Sept, PVG-SFO-IAD
techdarko: 12 Sept, SFO-HKG; 14 Sept, HKG-HGH; 16 Sept, PVG-SFO
Quinlanty: Sep 14; SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 18, PVG-SFO-YVR
bencanfly: Sep 14, SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 18, PVG-SFO-IAD
tde211: Sept 17, SFO-HKG-HGH; Oct 18 - PVG-SFO-YVR
Fishleafer: Sep 20, SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 26, PVG-SFO-YVR
X31: 21 Sept BTV-EWR-HNL-GUM-HKG; 23 Sept HKG-HGH; 25 Sept PVG-SFO-IAH-EWR; 26 Sept EWR-YUL
985X: Sept 22, LAX-SFO-HKG; Sept 23, HKG-HGH; Sept 25, PVG-LAX; Sept 26, LAX-YVR
flyingstudent: Sept 23: SFO-HGH
netoreisinger: 30 Sept, BOS-EWR-HKG-HGH; 4 Oct, PVG-SFO-ORD-YUL

October 2017
gba: Oct 22, SFO-HKG-HGH; Oct 29: PVG-NRT-SEA-YVR
beyounged: Oct 24, SAN-SFO-HKG, Oct 26, HKG-HGH, Nov 8, PVG-HND-YVR
as219: Oct 26, LGA-ORD-HKG (+1); Oct 30: HKG-SFO-EWR-YUL (+1)
X31: 26 Oct BTV-ORD-HKG; 28 Oct HKG-HGH; 30 Oct PVG-SFO; 31 Oct SFO-ORD-YUL
riphamilton +1: Oct 27, BOS-EWR-HNL-GUM-HKG (+1); Oct 30: HKG-GUM-NRT; Oct 31: NRT-ORD-YUL

November 2017
Quinlanty: Nov 3, BOS-EWR-HKG-HGH; Nov 6, HGH-SFO-IAH-ORD-YYZ
pushmyredbutton: Nov 19: BDL-ORD-HKG-HGH, Nov 27 HGH HKG-SFO-(YVR)
Davistev: Nov26, LAX-NRT-PVG

December 2017
Kmxu: Dec 1, IAH-HNL-GUM-HKG; Dec 3, HKG-HGH, Dec 4, PVG-SFO-IAD
X31: Dec 1, YUL-IAD-IAH; Dec 2, IAH-LAX-PVG; Dec 4, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL; Dec 4, HNL-EWR-BTV.

January 2018
Kewldude21: Jan 14 IAH-EWR-HKG Jan 16 HKG-HGH Jan 22 PVG-SFO-IAH
mpiotrow: Jan 21, ORD-SFO-KIX; Jan 23, KIX-HGH; Jan 24, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL-DEN-YYZ

February 2018

March 2018
Davistev: Mar03, PVG-SFO-YVR
flyer777lr: Mar 20, DEN-HNL-GUM; Mar 23, GUM-KIX (NH)-HGH; Mar 26, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL; Mar 27, HNL-EWR-YYZ
Kewldude21: Mar 22 IAH-EWR-HKG Mar 24 HKG-HGH Mar 28 HGH-PEK-SFO-IAH
flyme2: Mar 28, BTV-ORD-HKG; Mar 29: HKG-HGH; Apr 17: HKG-EWR-YUL
JetSetDave: Mar 29, EUG-SFO-HKG-HGH; April 3, PVG-SFO-EUG
Coeur 05: March 31, bos-sfo-hkg-pvg; April 5, PVG-lax-ord-yow

April 2018
ttyl: Apr 01 BTV-IAD-EWR-HKG; Apr 02 HKG-HGH; Apr 04 PVG-SFO-IAD-LGA-YUL
Toronto1970: April 6, EWR-ORD-HKG-HGH; April 13, CTU-SFO-EWR-YYZ
Exiled in Express: April 18, ORD-HKG-HGH; April 30, WUH-NRT-SEA-YVR
X31: Apr. 28 : BTV-EWR-HKG-HGH; May 1st : PVG-KIX; May 15th : ITM-HND-YVR-YYJ

May 2018
Kewldude21: May 3 IAH-SFO-HKG May 13 PEK-SFO-IAH

October 2018
KMXU, Oct. 18, IAD-SFO-HKG-HGH, Oct. 25, PVG-SFO-IAD

November 2018
KMXU, Nov. 14, ORD-HKG-XIY, Nov. 19, PEK-ORD

September 2019
xinliz Sept 4 SFO-NRT-PVG Sept 25 PEK-EWR-YOW
Flying Machine Sept 9 LAX-SFO-HKG Sept 10 HKG-HGH Sept 16 PVG-SFO-IAD

October 2019
kmxu: Oct 26, IAH-HNL-GUM-HKG, Oct. 27, HKG-XIY, Oct 30, CTU-SFO-IAH
wolfpacktrojan: Oct. 26, EWR-SFO-PVG, Oct. 28, PVG-NRT-SFO-YVR

November 2019
kmxuand his colleague: Nov 9, IAD-PEK, Nov 12, PEK-NRT-HNL-SFO-YYZ
kmxu's colleague: Nov 13, YYZ-IAD-NRT-PEK, Nov. 16, PEK-ORD
kmxu: Nov. 20, IAD-NRT-PEK, Nov. 22, PEK-EWR-YYZ
kmxu: Nov. 23, YYZ-IAD-NRT-PEK, Nov. 26, PEK-ORD
aquanine Nov 28: LAX-SFO-KIX, Nov 30: KIX-PEK, Dec 2: PEK-SFO-YVR

December 2019
kmxu: Nov. 30, IAD-NRT-PEK, Dec. 2, PEK-ORD-YYZ
kmxu: Dec. 3, YYZ-IAD-NRT-PEK, Dec. 6, PEK-ORD
jskang Dec 5, EWR-PVG, Dec 8, PEK-NRT-IAD-YOW

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Old Sep 17, 2017, 6:44 pm
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The wiki has all the details about the shuttle bus to Hangzhou East station. It is better printing out the wiki for reference. The frequency of the shuttle bus is 15 min unless it is in late night.
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Old Sep 17, 2017, 6:59 pm
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i just arrived back! had a great time and took the high speed train to shanghai which was really quick. not knowing chinese only resulted in one case where someone wouldnt sell us something. otherwise a lot of people especially younger people knew some english and could help.

I had problems at EWR with TWOV but they took my paperwork and it got solved eventually after 30 min wait. there is even an option on the kiosk for the agent to choose TWOV exception after she logins in after scanning your passport so united does know about it just maybe not the employees.

HKG-HGH transfer is tight! had to run and we were early. best to explain right away TWOV to transfer desk an have itinerary ready, i'm glad i printed it out like everyone recommended.

HGH immigration took 30 mins took our pictures etc., i'm 99% sure they cant read english at least the agents we had couldnt. they kept on trying to compare our printouts with previous people who were approved. either way they gave us the sticker and sent us on our way.

dont use the guys who approach for a ride when you walk out the terminal they wanted 300 yuan, go to the taxi stand, it was 120yuan including toll to marriot in cbd late at night.

both courtyard marriots were great and could exchange money for taxi since no exchange place was open in the airport at night and not enough time in hkg to exchange money. being gold they upgraded me and free breakfast for my party of 3 and it was very good.

subways and trains were super easy to use and figure out.
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Old Sep 18, 2017, 10:25 am
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Originally Posted by JAXFLY
both courtyard marriots were great and could exchange money for taxi since no exchange place was open in the airport at night and not enough time in hkg to exchange money. being gold they upgraded me and free breakfast for my party of 3 and it was very good.

subways and trains were super easy to use and figure out.
Might be worth adding to the wiki...

The international terminal at HGH (where you arrive) only has an exchange vendor with hefty fees that is open limited hours. However, the adjacent domestic terminal has a bank ATM. To get to the entrance of the domestic terminal, exit the international terminal and keep walking right, past the taxi stand. Then enter and take the escalator to the second floor. The bank ATM will be on your left, next to the escalator.

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Old Sep 18, 2017, 12:16 pm
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Originally Posted by KAFlyer
Might be worth adding to the wiki...

The international terminal at HGH (where you arrive) only has an exchange vendor with hefty fees that is open limited hours. However, the adjacent domestic terminal has a bank ATM. To get to the entrance of the domestic terminal, exit the international terminal and keep walking right, past the taxi stand. Then enter and take the escalator to the second floor. The bank ATM will be on your left, next to the escalator.
Thanks for sharing. Added to wiki for you.
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Old Sep 19, 2017, 9:05 pm
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Fishleafer Sep 20, SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 26, PVG-SFO-YVR
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Old Sep 19, 2017, 9:19 pm
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Originally Posted by fishleafer
Fishleafer Sep 20, SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 26, PVG-SFO-YVR
Added to wiki. Have fun!
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Old Sep 20, 2017, 1:38 pm
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For SFO-HKG-HGH, what's the PQM earned?
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Old Sep 20, 2017, 2:00 pm
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Originally Posted by BigTallTree
For SFO-HKG-HGH, what's the PQM earned?
I'm pretty sure you won't earn UA PQM from HKG-HGH since CX (Cathay Dragon) isn't a UA partner. So, you should get ~6927 PQM from SFO-HKG.

http://www.milecalc.com/mileage-calculator/?city1=SfO&city2=HKG&city3=&city4=&city5=
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Old Sep 20, 2017, 2:46 pm
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Hi!
I am flying from SEA-SFO-HKG-HGH, PVG-KIX-YVR
I am flying UA and the ticket price is $378
I currently entered Asiana Membership in UA, will it be 100% PQM?
I heard I need to use Singapore airline membership for the 100%, is that true?

Thanks!
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Old Sep 20, 2017, 3:14 pm
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Originally Posted by mpiotrow
I'm pretty sure you won't earn UA PQM from HKG-HGH since CX (Cathay Dragon) isn't a UA partner. So, you should get ~6927 PQM from SFO-HKG.

http://www.milecalc.com/mileage-calculator/?city1=SfO&city2=HKG&city3=&city4=&city5=
For the HKG - HGH flight, find your reservation on the CX website, attach your Advantage FF number, and choose seats anytime. The CX confirmation number, needed to find your reservation, is viewable on the UA web site by opening your itinerary and clicking View Additional Confirmation Numbers.

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Old Sep 20, 2017, 3:44 pm
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Originally Posted by Kkwong4
Hi!
I am flying from SEA-SFO-HKG-HGH, PVG-KIX-YVR
I am flying UA and the ticket price is $378
I currently entered Asiana Membership in UA, will it be 100% PQM?
I heard I need to use Singapore airline membership for the 100%, is that true?

Thanks!
Only UA Y/B/M/E/U/H fare classes earn 100% on Asiana. See https://us.flyasiana.com/C/en/homepa...ype=CMS#united
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Old Sep 20, 2017, 4:32 pm
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Originally Posted by rustykettel
Only UA Y/B/M/E/U/H fare classes earn 100% on Asiana.[/url]
Thank you! Looks like I will have to change it to singapore airline then. ^

Follow up question:
My flights are G class from SFO to HGH (united) , K class from PVG to YVR (ANA)
I checked singapore airline and for ANA flights, K class is not listed on the chart. Does this mean I don't get any PQM?

Or, since I am booking this flight with united, all miles and class are based on the united partner portion, which includes 100% on G and K.

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Old Sep 20, 2017, 6:01 pm
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Originally Posted by Kkwong4
Thank you! Looks like I will have to change it to singapore airline then. ^

Follow up question:
My flights are G class from SFO to HGH (united) , K class from PVG to YVR (ANA)
I checked singapore airline and for ANA flights, K class is not listed on the chart. Does this mean I don't get any PQM?

Or, since I am booking this flight with united, all miles and class are based on the united partner portion, which includes 100% on G and K.
Your first thought it correct. The United flights (G) will credit 100% to SQ while the ANA flights (K) won't credit anything to SQ. It doesn't matter who it is marketed by, but instead by who flies it. You may have luck giving your Asiana FF number at checkin for the PVG-YVR flight, as K earns 30% there.
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Old Sep 20, 2017, 6:17 pm
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Originally Posted by pushmyredbutton
Your first thought it correct. The United flights (G) will credit 100% to SQ while the ANA flights (K) won't credit anything to SQ. It doesn't matter who it is marketed by, but instead by who flies it. You may have luck giving your Asiana FF number at checkin for the PVG-YVR flight, as K earns 30% there.
Thank you for your help! So this trip is no longer a MR huh?
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Old Sep 20, 2017, 6:31 pm
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Originally Posted by Kkwong4
Thank you for your help! So this trip is no longer a MR huh?
It can be, but only if you split where you credit your miles or just credit them to UA. There are downsides to every angle though. UA affords the least amount of RDM, but affords 100% PQM for all of your flights. Splitting the credit between SQ and OZ will allow you to earn a lot more RDM, and a decent amount of PQM, but definitely not 100% PQM for the entire trip.

The whole Star Alliance earning scheme has become quite complicated, but it really depends on what you're looking for. If PQM, then crediting to UA is the best option here.

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