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Old Jul 5, 2017, 8:33 am
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Transportation options from HGH to Hangzhou city center or PVG. Please add your name and your itinerary if you are interested in meeting other fellow FTers.
1) Taxi to Hangzhou city center, about 100 RMB ($15) for the entire party, not per person, walking from international terminal to domestic terminal (i.e., right turn after you get outside of the international terminal building), you will see taxi queue.
2) Shuttle bus, 20 RMB ($3), to Wulinmen CAAC Ticket Office or East Railway Station Line (two most popular options). The waiting hall for the shuttle bus is at Gate 10 (you can purchase ticket at Gate 14, too) Arrival Hall, on the first floor of the terminal building. Further details, see https://www.travelchinaguide.com/cit...ation.htm#hang
3) Shuttle from Hangzhou city center to PVG, 110 RMB, 3.5 hours: a) Wulinmen Ticket Office Central Hangzhou to PVG: (5:30, 6:10, 7:00, 8:00, 9:00, 10:00, 11:00, 12:00, 13:00, 14:00, 15:00, 16:00, 17:00)
b) Hangzhou Dragon Sports Center to PVG, 110 RMB, (7:00, 8:30, 10:30, 12:30, 14:30, 16:00
). Further details, see https://traveladept.com/bus-pudong-hangzhou/
4) Train from Hangzhou East station to Shanghai Hongqiao; less than 100 RMB (~1 hr); then you can take Subway Line #2 to PVG, ~10 RMB and 2 hrs; or shuttle bus (Airport Line #1), about 1 hr, 30 RMB ($4.5), every 15 - 25 minutes. The Hangzhou East ticketing windows are located on 1st Floor, EAST Area of the station. Please allow 20-30 minutes for walking to 2nd floor departure, and security check. The frequency of Hangzhou-Hongqiao trains is as good as that of subways in many US cities.
5) Getting cash at HGH The international terminal at HGH (where you arrive) only has an exchange vendor with hefty fees that is open limited hours. However, the adjacent domestic terminal has a bank ATM. To get to the entrance of the domestic terminal, exit the international terminal and keep walking right, past the taxi stand. Then enter and take the escalator to the second floor. The bank ATM will be on your left, next to the escalator.
6 Getting TWOV without issues The advice is to print out your itinerary, hotel reservation, etc., to speed up the procedure at the entry point in China. At SFO, the check-in agents were clueless, so be prepared to get there very early and fight for your boarding passes. Please read the last few pages on this thread for first-hand experiences. Good luck. There is a thread on FT for further details. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/china...hread-231.html

ATM To get to the entrance of the domestic terminal, exit the international terminal and keep walking right, past the taxi stand. Then enter and take the escalator to the second floor. The bank ATM will be on your left, next to the escalator.

Travel information for Beijing and airport:
Beijing will have 2 hubs starting Sept 30,2019. PEK (Beijing Capital International Airport) is original main hub and will continue for Star Alliance flights and Cathay Pacific (including subsidiary Cathay Dragon Air). PKX (Beijing Daxing International Airport, will debut Sept 30, 2019)
planned for airlines of the SkyTeam alliance and One World Alliance (AA, BA, etc. except Cathay Pacific) will be relocated to the new airport. Most flyers taking advantage of this China OJ deal will continue fly through PEK. Some people who use positioning flights through Beijing using non-Star Alliance airlines need to make sure you are flying into PEK, or else need 2hr ground transportation from PKX to PEK.
PEK allows TWOV within 24hr to stay inside security zone airside. This is more convenient for immediate turn than Shanghai-PVG, which force all passengers to exit immigration and customs, then re-check in from land side, even if you have immediate turn within 24hr.

Who are going? When for outbound and inbound? Routing from major hubs:
July 2017

August 2017
Quinlanty: Aug 3, ORD-HKG-HGH; Aug 7, PVG-LAX-SFO-IAH-ORD-YYZ (see post #284 for a brief report on TWOV procedure at HGH).

September 2017
Kmxu: 1 Sept, IAD-HNL-GUM-, 3 Sept, GUM-PVG; 4 Sept, PVG-SFO-ORD
Quinlanty; Sep 1, IAD-HNL-GUM; Sept 3, GUM-PVG, Sep 4, PVG-SFO-ORD-YYZ
pushmyredbutton: Sept 1; SFO-HNL-GUM-HKG Sept 3rd: HKG-HGH, Sept 4th: PVG-SFO
X31: 8 Sept BTV-EWR-SFO-HKG-HGH; 11 Sept PVG-NRT; 12 Sept HND-SFO-IAH-EWR; 13 Sept EWR-YUL
Kmxu + 3: 9 Sept, IAD-SFO-HKG-HGH; 12 Sept, PVG-SFO-IAD
techdarko: 12 Sept, SFO-HKG; 14 Sept, HKG-HGH; 16 Sept, PVG-SFO
Quinlanty: Sep 14; SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 18, PVG-SFO-YVR
bencanfly: Sep 14, SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 18, PVG-SFO-IAD
tde211: Sept 17, SFO-HKG-HGH; Oct 18 - PVG-SFO-YVR
Fishleafer: Sep 20, SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 26, PVG-SFO-YVR
X31: 21 Sept BTV-EWR-HNL-GUM-HKG; 23 Sept HKG-HGH; 25 Sept PVG-SFO-IAH-EWR; 26 Sept EWR-YUL
985X: Sept 22, LAX-SFO-HKG; Sept 23, HKG-HGH; Sept 25, PVG-LAX; Sept 26, LAX-YVR
flyingstudent: Sept 23: SFO-HGH
netoreisinger: 30 Sept, BOS-EWR-HKG-HGH; 4 Oct, PVG-SFO-ORD-YUL

October 2017
gba: Oct 22, SFO-HKG-HGH; Oct 29: PVG-NRT-SEA-YVR
beyounged: Oct 24, SAN-SFO-HKG, Oct 26, HKG-HGH, Nov 8, PVG-HND-YVR
as219: Oct 26, LGA-ORD-HKG (+1); Oct 30: HKG-SFO-EWR-YUL (+1)
X31: 26 Oct BTV-ORD-HKG; 28 Oct HKG-HGH; 30 Oct PVG-SFO; 31 Oct SFO-ORD-YUL
riphamilton +1: Oct 27, BOS-EWR-HNL-GUM-HKG (+1); Oct 30: HKG-GUM-NRT; Oct 31: NRT-ORD-YUL

November 2017
Quinlanty: Nov 3, BOS-EWR-HKG-HGH; Nov 6, HGH-SFO-IAH-ORD-YYZ
pushmyredbutton: Nov 19: BDL-ORD-HKG-HGH, Nov 27 HGH HKG-SFO-(YVR)
Davistev: Nov26, LAX-NRT-PVG

December 2017
Kmxu: Dec 1, IAH-HNL-GUM-HKG; Dec 3, HKG-HGH, Dec 4, PVG-SFO-IAD
X31: Dec 1, YUL-IAD-IAH; Dec 2, IAH-LAX-PVG; Dec 4, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL; Dec 4, HNL-EWR-BTV.

January 2018
Kewldude21: Jan 14 IAH-EWR-HKG Jan 16 HKG-HGH Jan 22 PVG-SFO-IAH
mpiotrow: Jan 21, ORD-SFO-KIX; Jan 23, KIX-HGH; Jan 24, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL-DEN-YYZ

February 2018

March 2018
Davistev: Mar03, PVG-SFO-YVR
flyer777lr: Mar 20, DEN-HNL-GUM; Mar 23, GUM-KIX (NH)-HGH; Mar 26, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL; Mar 27, HNL-EWR-YYZ
Kewldude21: Mar 22 IAH-EWR-HKG Mar 24 HKG-HGH Mar 28 HGH-PEK-SFO-IAH
flyme2: Mar 28, BTV-ORD-HKG; Mar 29: HKG-HGH; Apr 17: HKG-EWR-YUL
JetSetDave: Mar 29, EUG-SFO-HKG-HGH; April 3, PVG-SFO-EUG
Coeur 05: March 31, bos-sfo-hkg-pvg; April 5, PVG-lax-ord-yow

April 2018
ttyl: Apr 01 BTV-IAD-EWR-HKG; Apr 02 HKG-HGH; Apr 04 PVG-SFO-IAD-LGA-YUL
Toronto1970: April 6, EWR-ORD-HKG-HGH; April 13, CTU-SFO-EWR-YYZ
Exiled in Express: April 18, ORD-HKG-HGH; April 30, WUH-NRT-SEA-YVR
X31: Apr. 28 : BTV-EWR-HKG-HGH; May 1st : PVG-KIX; May 15th : ITM-HND-YVR-YYJ

May 2018
Kewldude21: May 3 IAH-SFO-HKG May 13 PEK-SFO-IAH

October 2018
KMXU, Oct. 18, IAD-SFO-HKG-HGH, Oct. 25, PVG-SFO-IAD

November 2018
KMXU, Nov. 14, ORD-HKG-XIY, Nov. 19, PEK-ORD

September 2019
xinliz Sept 4 SFO-NRT-PVG Sept 25 PEK-EWR-YOW
Flying Machine Sept 9 LAX-SFO-HKG Sept 10 HKG-HGH Sept 16 PVG-SFO-IAD

October 2019
kmxu: Oct 26, IAH-HNL-GUM-HKG, Oct. 27, HKG-XIY, Oct 30, CTU-SFO-IAH
wolfpacktrojan: Oct. 26, EWR-SFO-PVG, Oct. 28, PVG-NRT-SFO-YVR

November 2019
kmxuand his colleague: Nov 9, IAD-PEK, Nov 12, PEK-NRT-HNL-SFO-YYZ
kmxu's colleague: Nov 13, YYZ-IAD-NRT-PEK, Nov. 16, PEK-ORD
kmxu: Nov. 20, IAD-NRT-PEK, Nov. 22, PEK-EWR-YYZ
kmxu: Nov. 23, YYZ-IAD-NRT-PEK, Nov. 26, PEK-ORD
aquanine Nov 28: LAX-SFO-KIX, Nov 30: KIX-PEK, Dec 2: PEK-SFO-YVR

December 2019
kmxu: Nov. 30, IAD-NRT-PEK, Dec. 2, PEK-ORD-YYZ
kmxu: Dec. 3, YYZ-IAD-NRT-PEK, Dec. 6, PEK-ORD
jskang Dec 5, EWR-PVG, Dec 8, PEK-NRT-IAD-YOW

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Old Jul 31, 2017, 8:03 pm
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Originally Posted by pushmyredbutton
Were you successful? I contacted them via Twitter and they continually refused any *A re-routings (for any leg) but were able to pretty much do anything I wanted as long as it was all UA flights.
I ended up cancelling the HKG-HGH segment and returning straight from HKG, but was also offered SIN, CTU or NRT when I suggested them.

Go figure
How did they expect you to get CTU, SIN, NRT?
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Old Jul 31, 2017, 8:08 pm
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Originally Posted by Quinlanty
How did they expect you to get CTU, SIN, NRT?
Was going to get their on my own dime, since they were unwilling to budge with any partners. They didn't really care, which tbh is a bit surprising for twitter and the 1K line.
Settled on HKG which makes it a clean roundtrip without any positioning.
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Old Jul 31, 2017, 8:28 pm
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Originally Posted by flyer777lr
Found $ 321 BOS IAH HNL GUM HKG HGH HKG GUM HNL SFO EWR YOW / YYZ -


Feb 2018
Do you have a paid Chinese visa? HKG-HGH-HKG routing requires a paid Chinese visa.
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Old Jul 31, 2017, 9:18 pm
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Check my "milk run" link. If you take GUM-PVG on Thursday or Sunday and leave for HKG from HGH, you do not need a Chinese visa.
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Old Aug 1, 2017, 6:49 am
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edsh

Originally Posted by Kmxu
Check my "milk run" link. If you take GUM-PVG on Thursday or Sunday and leave for HKG from HGH, you do not need a Chinese visa.
Since HGH - SFO was cancelled I could ask to be rerouted PVG - GUM - Island Hopper - HNL - SFO instead. This would all be on UA metal creating a much larger mileage running opportunity. Another thing to hope for: it might be booked into a fare category that allows GPUs.

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Old Aug 1, 2017, 8:58 am
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Originally Posted by edsh
Since HGH - SFO was cancelled I could ask to be rerouted PVG - GUM - Island Hopper - HNL - SFO instead. This would all be on UA metal creating a much larger mileage running opportunity. Another thing to hope for: it might be booked into a fare category that allows GPUs.
My two rebookings were both in G or K, sadly. The GUM route from PVG is a great idea, but keep in mind that it only runs twice a week so it's a bit tricky to get it to time right.
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Old Aug 1, 2017, 2:45 pm
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Originally Posted by pushmyredbutton
Were you successful? I contacted them via Twitter and they continually refused any *A re-routings (for any leg) but were able to pretty much do anything I wanted as long as it was all UA flights.
I ended up cancelling the HKG-HGH segment and returning straight from HKG, but was also offered SIN, CTU or NRT when I suggested them.

Go figure
So SIN, CTU and NRT were OK, but TPE wasn't? Interesting..

I haven't had the chance to call them yet. Other priorities. Thanks for the feedback though. It's good to know what the options are.

I am still going to ask for the TPE reroute. Will post if successful.

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Old Aug 1, 2017, 2:54 pm
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Originally Posted by FLA77
So SIN, CTU and NRT were OK, but TPE wasn't? Interesting..

I haven't had the chance to call them yet. Other priorities. Thanks for the feedback though. It's good to know what the options are.

I am still going to ask for the TPE reroute. Will post if successful.
The problem wasn't necessarily TPE, I'm sure they would have booked me TPE-SFO if I asked. The issue was getting to TPE or any of the other options. UA simply would not accommodate me on any *A carrier from HGH. I had to arrange that part on my own in order for the rebooking to go through.
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Old Aug 1, 2017, 7:07 pm
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Originally Posted by flyer777lr
Found $ 321 BOS IAH HNL GUM HKG HGH HKG GUM HNL SFO EWR YOW / YYZ -

Feb 2018
The connections at IAH, HNL and GUM are less than an hour. Is that viable?
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Old Aug 2, 2017, 6:10 am
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HGH Airport Fee

For those travelers originally booked to fly into HGH and whose itineraries were disrupted and decided to forego the HKG-HGH segment on KA, check your receipt that the CN Airport Fee of $13.20 was refunded. My replacement ticket was manually done and the rate desk failed to refund the CN tax; it has now been corrected with the small refund being issued to me.
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Old Aug 2, 2017, 6:17 am
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Originally Posted by cagcag
For those travelers originally booked to fly into HGH and whose itineraries were disrupted and decided to forego the HKG-HGH segment on KA, check your receipt that the CN Airport Fee of $13.20 was refunded. My replacement ticket was manually done and the rate desk failed to refund the CN tax; it has now been corrected with the small refund being issued to me.
did you have to call in for the refund, or was it done automatically?
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Old Aug 2, 2017, 6:43 am
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Originally Posted by riphamilton
did you have to call in for the refund, or was it done automatically?
Called in.
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Old Aug 2, 2017, 7:57 am
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Originally Posted by cagcag
For those travelers originally booked to fly into HGH and whose itineraries were disrupted and decided to forego the HKG-HGH segment on KA, check your receipt that the CN Airport Fee of $13.20 was refunded. My replacement ticket was manually done and the rate desk failed to refund the CN tax; it has now been corrected with the small refund being issued to me.
Originally Posted by cagcag
Called in.
Thanks for the tip! ^
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Old Aug 2, 2017, 9:47 am
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Or fill up the refund form after travel.

Originally Posted by cagcag
Called in.

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Old Aug 2, 2017, 7:50 pm
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Anyone interested in this crazy itinerary in mid-January 2018?

ORD-IAH-HNL-GUM-HKG-HGH then PVG-NRT-GUM-HNL-DEN-ORD-YYZ

This lets you spend one night in Honk Kong and one night in Tokyo. But the rest of your trip will require running from one flight to the next, including getting from HGH to PVG in about six hours. I'm too lazy to figure out the mileage but it should be significant since only HKG-HGH is non-UA and non-*A.
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