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Transportation options from HGH to Hangzhou city center or PVG. Please add your name and your itinerary if you are interested in meeting other fellow FTers.
1) Taxi to Hangzhou city center, about 100 RMB ($15) for the entire party, not per person, walking from international terminal to domestic terminal (i.e., right turn after you get outside of the international terminal building), you will see taxi queue.
2) Shuttle bus, 20 RMB ($3), to Wulinmen CAAC Ticket Office or East Railway Station Line (two most popular options). The waiting hall for the shuttle bus is at Gate 10 (you can purchase ticket at Gate 14, too) Arrival Hall, on the first floor of the terminal building. Further details, see https://www.travelchinaguide.com/cit...ation.htm#hang
3) Shuttle from Hangzhou city center to PVG, 110 RMB, 3.5 hours: a) Wulinmen Ticket Office Central Hangzhou to PVG: (5:30, 6:10, 7:00, 8:00, 9:00, 10:00, 11:00, 12:00, 13:00, 14:00, 15:00, 16:00, 17:00)
b) Hangzhou Dragon Sports Center to PVG, 110 RMB, (7:00, 8:30, 10:30, 12:30, 14:30, 16:00
). Further details, see https://traveladept.com/bus-pudong-hangzhou/
4) Train from Hangzhou East station to Shanghai Hongqiao; less than 100 RMB (~1 hr); then you can take Subway Line #2 to PVG, ~10 RMB and 2 hrs; or shuttle bus (Airport Line #1), about 1 hr, 30 RMB ($4.5), every 15 - 25 minutes. The Hangzhou East ticketing windows are located on 1st Floor, EAST Area of the station. Please allow 20-30 minutes for walking to 2nd floor departure, and security check. The frequency of Hangzhou-Hongqiao trains is as good as that of subways in many US cities.
5) Getting cash at HGH The international terminal at HGH (where you arrive) only has an exchange vendor with hefty fees that is open limited hours. However, the adjacent domestic terminal has a bank ATM. To get to the entrance of the domestic terminal, exit the international terminal and keep walking right, past the taxi stand. Then enter and take the escalator to the second floor. The bank ATM will be on your left, next to the escalator.
6 Getting TWOV without issues The advice is to print out your itinerary, hotel reservation, etc., to speed up the procedure at the entry point in China. At SFO, the check-in agents were clueless, so be prepared to get there very early and fight for your boarding passes. Please read the last few pages on this thread for first-hand experiences. Good luck. There is a thread on FT for further details. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/china...hread-231.html

ATM To get to the entrance of the domestic terminal, exit the international terminal and keep walking right, past the taxi stand. Then enter and take the escalator to the second floor. The bank ATM will be on your left, next to the escalator.

Who are going? When for outbound and inbound? Routing from major hubs:
July

August
Quinlanty: Aug 3, ORD-HKG-HGH; Aug 7, PVG-LAX-SFO-IAH-ORD-YYZ (see post #284 for a brief report on TWOV procedure at HGH).

September
Kmxu: 1 Sept, IAD-HNL-GUM-, 3 Sept, GUM-PVG; 4 Sept, PVG-SFO-ORD
Quinlanty; Sep 1, IAD-HNL-GUM; Sept 3, GUM-PVG, Sep 4, PVG-SFO-ORD-YYZ
pushmyredbutton: Sept 1; SFO-HNL-GUM-HKG Sept 3rd: HKG-HGH, Sept 4th: PVG-SFO
X31: 8 Sept BTV-EWR-SFO-HKG-HGH; 11 Sept PVG-NRT; 12 Sept HND-SFO-IAH-EWR; 13 Sept EWR-YUL
Kmxu + 3: 9 Sept, IAD-SFO-HKG-HGH; 12 Sept, PVG-SFO-IAD
techdarko: 12 Sept, SFO-HKG; 14 Sept, HKG-HGH; 16 Sept, PVG-SFO
Quinlanty: Sep 14; SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 18, PVG-SFO-YVR
bencanfly: Sep 14, SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 18, PVG-SFO-IAD
tde211: Sept 17, SFO-HKG-HGH; Oct 18 - PVG-SFO-YVR
Fishleafer: Sep 20, SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 26, PVG-SFO-YVR
X31: 21 Sept BTV-EWR-HNL-GUM-HKG; 23 Sept HKG-HGH; 25 Sept PVG-SFO-IAH-EWR; 26 Sept EWR-YUL
985X: Sept 22, LAX-SFO-HKG; Sept 23, HKG-HGH; Sept 25, PVG-LAX; Sept 26, LAX-YVR
flyingstudent: Sept 23: SFO-HGH
netoreisinger: 30 Sept, BOS-EWR-HKG-HGH; 4 Oct, PVG-SFO-ORD-YUL

October
gba: Oct 22, SFO-HKG-HGH; Oct 29: PVG-NRT-SEA-YVR
beyounged: Oct 24, SAN-SFO-HKG, Oct 26, HKG-HGH, Nov 8, PVG-HND-YVR
as219: Oct 26, LGA-ORD-HKG (+1); Oct 30: HKG-SFO-EWR-YUL (+1)
X31: 26 Oct BTV-ORD-HKG; 28 Oct HKG-HGH; 30 Oct PVG-SFO; 31 Oct SFO-ORD-YUL
riphamilton +1: Oct 27, BOS-EWR-HNL-GUM-HKG (+1); Oct 30: HKG-GUM-NRT; Oct 31: NRT-ORD-YUL

November
Quinlanty: Nov 3, BOS-EWR-HKG-HGH; Nov 6, HGH-SFO-IAH-ORD-YYZ
pushmyredbutton: Nov 19: BDL-ORD-HKG-HGH, Nov 27 HGH HKG-SFO-(YVR)

December
Kmxu: Dec 1, IAH-HNL-GUM-HKG; Dec 3, HKG-HGH, Dec 4, PVG-SFO-IAD
X31: Dec 1, YUL-IAD-IAH; Dec 2, IAH-LAX-PVG; Dec 4, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL; Dec 4, HNL-EWR-BTV.

January
Kewldude21: Jan 14 IAH-EWR-HKG Jan 16 HKG-HGH Jan 22 PVG-SFO-IAH
mpiotrow: Jan 21, ORD-SFO-KIX; Jan 23, KIX-HGH; Jan 24, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL-DEN-YYZ

February

March
flyer777lr: Mar 20, DEN-HNL-GUM; Mar 23, GUM-KIX (NH)-HGH; Mar 26, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL; Mar 27, HNL-EWR-YYZ
Kewldude21: Mar 22 IAH-EWR-HKG Mar 24 HKG-HGH Mar 28 HGH-PEK-SFO-IAH
flyme2: Mar 28, BTV-ORD-HKG; Mar 29: HKG-HGH; Apr 17: HKG-EWR-YUL
JetSetDave: Mar 29, EUG-SFO-HKG-HGH; April 3, PVG-SFO-EUG
Coeur 05: March 31, bos-sfo-hkg-pvg; April 5, PVG-lax-ord-yow

April
ttyl: Apr 01 BTV-IAD-EWR-HKG; Apr 02 HKG-HGH; Apr 04 PVG-SFO-IAD-LGA-YUL
Toronto1970: April 6, EWR-ORD-HKG-HGH; April 13, CTU-SFO-EWR-YYZ
Exiled in Express: April 18, ORD-HKG-HGH; April 30, WUH-NRT-SEA-YVR
X31: Apr. 28 : BTV-EWR-HKG-HGH; May 1st : PVG-KIX; May 15th : ITM-HND-YVR-YYJ

May
Kewldude21: May 3 IAH-SFO-HKG May 13 PEK-SFO-IAH


October
KMXU, Oct. 18, IAD-SFO-HKG-HGH, Oct. 25, PVG-SFO-IAD

November
KMXU, Nov. 14, ORD-HKG-XIY, Nov. 19, PEK-ORD
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Old Jul 20, 17, 9:15 am
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Originally Posted by gba View Post
Does anybody have experience doing TWOV flying into HGH and out of PVG? As I read TIMATIC this should be allowed:

[KVS Tool 8.4.7/Diamond - TIMATIC: Visa/Entry Requirements]
Code:
National USA (US)               /Embarkation USA (US)
Transit China (People's Rep.) (CN)
Destination Japan (JP)          
ALSO CHECK DESTINATION INFORMATION BELOW

[Visa Information - Transit] China (People's Rep.) (CN)

[Information For Normal Passports]
TWOV (Transit Without Visa):
...
Visa required, except for Nationals of USA holding confirmed
onward air, cruise or train tickets to a third country,
arriving and departing from any one of the following
locations: Hangzhou (HGH), Nanjing Lukou (NKG), Shanghai
Hongqiao (SHA) or Shanghai Pudong (PVG) for a maximum of 144
hours, starting from 00:01 on the day following the day of
entry. (SEE NOTE 75232)
https://www.tripadvisor.ca/Travel-g2....Transits.html

According to the summary on tripadvisor, the answer is yes for the 144 hour visa:

- You enter the country through one of these eligible airports and leave from another of these airports. So you do not need to leave the country by departing from the airport in the same city that you arrived in as long as the arriving and departing airport are among this list of four (You can arrive in Shanghai and leave from Hangzhou for example);

Note that they claim this isn't true for the 72-hour visa:

- You will leave the country by departing from the airport in the same city that you arrived in (for Shanghai you can arrive at one airport and leave from the other);
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Old Jul 20, 17, 3:23 pm
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Thanks OP!, Firstly this is still available, I just booked this AWESOME trip, directly on the United Airlines website (not using Google Flights or ITA), for $340 USD/person. Warning: the website was extremely glitchy pricing out this itinerary:

Outbound:

-Burlington Vermont (BTV) -Chicago (ORD)
22 HOUR LAYOVER IN CHICAGO

-Chicago (ORD) to Guam (GUM) (via Honolulu Hawaii, 55 minute layover)
-23 HOUR LAYOVER IN GUAM

-Guam (GUM) to Tokyo Japan (NRT)
-14 HOUR LAYOVER IN TOKYO

Tokyo Japan (NRT) to Hangzhou China (HGH)


RETURN:

Hangzhou China (HGH) to Hong Kong (HKG)
14 LAYOVER IN HONG KONG

Hong Kong (HKG) to Chicago (ORD) (3 hour layover in Chicago)

Chicago (ORD) to Ottawa (YOW)


Out of all the destinations, I'm actually looking forward to seeing Guam the most... 23 hour layover in Guam is awesome. Also 14 hour layovers in both Tokyo and Hong Kong... super excited. My girlfriend never been to Chicago and always wanted to go, even though its for only 22 hours... she'll love it.
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Old Jul 20, 17, 5:57 pm
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Good job!

Your reservation is most complicated on this board. Congratulations.
At Guam, you won't get a car if you do not book one before you arrive. At Hangzhou, you should get some cash with you. In other places, you can survive without cash.
Have a good journey.

Originally Posted by Oj778 View Post
Thanks OP!, Firstly this is still available, I just booked this AWESOME trip, directly on the United Airlines website (not using Google Flights or ITA), for $340 USD/person. Warning: the website was extremely glitchy pricing out this itinerary:

Outbound:

-Burlington Vermont (BTV) -Chicago (ORD)
22 HOUR LAYOVER IN CHICAGO

-Chicago (ORD) to Guam (GUM) (via Honolulu Hawaii, 55 minute layover)
-23 HOUR LAYOVER IN GUAM

-Guam (GUM) to Tokyo Japan (NRT)
-14 HOUR LAYOVER IN TOKYO

Tokyo Japan (NRT) to Hangzhou China (HGH)


RETURN:

Hangzhou China (HGH) to Hong Kong (HKG)
14 LAYOVER IN HONG KONG

Hong Kong (HKG) to Chicago (ORD) (3 hour layover in Chicago)

Chicago (ORD) to Ottawa (YOW)


Out of all the destinations, I'm actually looking forward to seeing Guam the most... 23 hour layover in Guam is awesome. Also 14 hour layovers in both Tokyo and Hong Kong... super excited. My girlfriend never been to Chicago and always wanted to go, even though its for only 22 hours... she'll love it.

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Old Jul 21, 17, 10:20 am
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Originally Posted by Oj778 View Post
Thanks OP!, Firstly this is still available, I just booked this AWESOME trip, directly on the United Airlines website (not using Google Flights or ITA), for $340 USD/person. Warning: the website was extremely glitchy pricing out this itinerary:

Outbound:

-Burlington Vermont (BTV) -Chicago (ORD)
22 HOUR LAYOVER IN CHICAGO

-Chicago (ORD) to Guam (GUM) (via Honolulu Hawaii, 55 minute layover)
-23 HOUR LAYOVER IN GUAM

-Guam (GUM) to Tokyo Japan (NRT)
-14 HOUR LAYOVER IN TOKYO

Tokyo Japan (NRT) to Hangzhou China (HGH)


RETURN:

Hangzhou China (HGH) to Hong Kong (HKG)
14 LAYOVER IN HONG KONG

Hong Kong (HKG) to Chicago (ORD) (3 hour layover in Chicago)

Chicago (ORD) to Ottawa (YOW)


Out of all the destinations, I'm actually looking forward to seeing Guam the most... 23 hour layover in Guam is awesome. Also 14 hour layovers in both Tokyo and Hong Kong... super excited. My girlfriend never been to Chicago and always wanted to go, even though its for only 22 hours... she'll love it.
Out of curiosity, what dates are you flying? That looks like a great trip! Congratulations on finding/booking that!
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Old Jul 21, 17, 11:35 am
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Originally Posted by mpiotrow View Post
Out of curiosity, what dates are you flying? That looks like a great trip! Congratulations on finding/booking that!
Yeah, I'm curious about this as well. I can mostly get the construction on UA.com (long layovers are a must due to the flight options), but it is quite buggy with the per-leg pricing.

I can't seem to get it to price into G class though.
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Old Jul 21, 17, 11:46 am
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Originally Posted by mpiotrow View Post
Out of curiosity, what dates are you flying? That looks like a great trip! Congratulations on finding/booking that!
March 20: BTV-ORD
March 21: ORD-HNL-GUM
March 23: GUM-NRT
March 24: NRT-HGH (ANA)

April 3: HGH-HKG (Dragonair)
April 4: HKG-ORD-YOW

Priced in G class

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Old Jul 21, 17, 7:48 pm
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Was anyone able to get this to work with the United Island Hopper? I've been trying for days but I can only get the nonstop from HNL to GUM.
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Old Jul 21, 17, 8:51 pm
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Was anyone able to get this to work with the United Island Hopper? I've been trying for days but I can only get the nonstop from HNL to GUM.
Have you checked the fare rules? I think it prohibits the Island Hopper but I'm fuzzy on the memory.
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Old Jul 21, 17, 9:26 pm
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Have you checked the fare rules? I think it prohibits the Island Hopper but I'm fuzzy on the memory.
I've read it but the only flight it specifically mentions as a no go is UA 154 from GUM to PVG. From what I also get out of it there might be some small surcharges for the Island Hopper. Then again I'm not great at reading the fare rules.
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Old Jul 22, 17, 1:17 am
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Has anyone found a combo that works in the late December/early January timeframe? I played around with the dates and stops a bit and it looks like the ~$300 fares don't pop up until mid-January.
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Old Jul 22, 17, 1:28 am
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I've read it but the only flight it specifically mentions as a no go is UA 154 from GUM to PVG. From what I also get out of it there might be some small surcharges for the Island Hopper. Then again I'm not great at reading the fare rules.
Ah, that must be it. i conflated the specific flight restriction with the surcharge for the Island Hopper.
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Old Jul 22, 17, 9:43 am
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Originally Posted by stevenmirabito View Post
Has anyone found a combo that works in the late December/early January timeframe? I played around with the dates and stops a bit and it looks like the ~$300 fares don't pop up until mid-January.
Could be Christmas and New Year blackout dates.
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Old Jul 22, 17, 10:18 am
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Many thanks to the OP!

I pulled the trigger on LGA-HKG-HGH-SFO-DEN-LGA-XXX for ~$380 including two days in Hangzhao. Could have routed via GUM, but since I couldn't make a stopover work, it didn't appeal so much. Now I have 24 hours to decide if I actually want to do this!

(HKG-HGH-SFO is TWOV eligible, right?)
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Old Jul 22, 17, 10:30 am
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I've read it but the only flight it specifically mentions as a no go is UA 154 from GUM to PVG. From what I also get out of it there might be some small surcharges for the Island Hopper. Then again I'm not great at reading the fare rules.
Yeah from all the itineraries i've constructed, the hopper comes back at significantly more ($300 vs $1000), even though there is the right fare class available.

The only way you can get the hopper to work would be to SDC to it, and that will be problematic on the outbound since you can't SDC when there's a partner flight on the reservation, so you'd only be able to do it on the way back, and you'd need to budget enough time in GUM/HNL in order to make the longer hopper work.
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Old Jul 22, 17, 3:50 pm
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Many thanks to the OP!

I pulled the trigger on LGA-HKG-HGH-SFO-DEN-LGA-XXX for ~$380 including two days in Hangzhao. Could have routed via GUM, but since I couldn't make a stopover work, it didn't appeal so much. Now I have 24 hours to decide if I actually want to do this!

(HKG-HGH-SFO is TWOV eligible, right?)
How did you get a LGA-HKG flight? Was it from EWR?

And yes, HKG-HGH-SFO is eligible, only the flights immediately arriving into and departing from China matters for the third country rule.
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