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Old Oct 24, 2015, 5:28 am
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Why would a DL SkyPesos member do this now that RDMs are earned on ticket cost?

Either for the MQMs, or to actually visit SIN FWIW there are posts in the thread about similar itineraries on AA.

How do I search for dates/prices?

One way is to use ITA Matrix. Click on "Advanced routing codes" and enter something along the lines of:
  • outbound: dl+ dtw nrt
  • inbound: dl+ nrt dtw

NOTE: Basic Economy (E) fares have been spotted on this route and come with heavy restrictions. If you want to exclude E fares from your search you can add f ~bc=e in the separate "extension codes" box

See post 1329 for some screenshots (which are now out of date, the routing codes and extension code have been split into two separate input boxes)

You may wish to experiment with things like dtw,atl or x or even x+. Read the advanced routing codes help for more ideas. (DL no longer flies JFK-NRT nonstop)

I found an itinerary that works for me, how do I book it?
  • you can try a multi-city booking on Kayak or Google Flights and click through to Delta (you can save some effort by omitting the implicit/forced connection through NRT for example)
  • if you are comfortable installing add-ons etc. you can use the ITA userscript (see the wiki at the top of that thread)
  • for the less technically-inclined there is also the Book with Matrix helper site (and its related FT thread)
  • call in if none of the above methods work or e.g. you want to add a stopover

Do I need a visa?

No visa is needed for transits (or in fact for visiting up to 90 days, subject to qualifications)
You can get your boarding passes for your Delta return flight at Transit Lounge D, which opens 3 hours before departure.

What are the best seats?

Assuming you're stuck in Y (no GUCs etc.)
Picking a seat (Delta One, Boeing 777)
Master A330-300 (A333) Best Seats Thread

Will there be wifi on the international legs?

DL now touts International Wi-Fi is available on 100% of all wide body, long-haul aircraft providing near global coverage. Given "long-haul" this may not apply to NRT-SIN.

777s should all have wifi: thread #1, thread #2; although it is still subject to coverage/availability, seems to drop out in the far northern parts of the route, and coming down the Russian coast it seemed like http was slow but working and anything else like https took forever and/or was blocked

Delta doesn't seem to sell the Gogo global day pass on their web site but you can buy it directly from Gogo. You can use the same pass on both domestic and international flights in any order as long as it is within 24 hours.

FlexPerks VISA single-flight passes can NOT be used on international flights (they do not appear as a redemption choice when you sign in to Gogo in flight)

Other related threads:

Delta 763 International Wifi Installation Progress (especially posts #7 and #9)

Delta to add Gogo WiFi to international fleet

SIN airport facilities

If you are doing a quick turn, you can remain airside the whole time. There are a number of 24-hour food outlets in the transit mall areas (center of each terminal)

Each of the 3 terminals has their Transit Hotel on Level 3. Prices are similar for all:
-Terminal 1 - Plaza Premium Lounge recently opened Aerotel. Book at: Aerotel Terminal 1
-Terminal 2 and 3 - Harilela Hospitality runs an Ambassador Transit Hotel in each Terminal, above the Orchid Garden and Movie Theater, respectively. Book at: Ambassador Transit Hotels

Note that you can actually stay in either of the 3, regardless of which Terminal you arrive in. However, when leaving the airport, you need to exit through the same Terminal as that you arrived in.

FT thread on Singapore Airport Lounges

Airport website links:
NOTE: even though the DNATA Sky View lounge lists "Delta Airlines" on the airport web page and appears on a skyteam.com lounge search, it is considered by Delta to be third-party-operated, thus if you are STE+ in Y you will not have access. People have reported gaining access on an upgrade to J but YMMV.

There is free wifi either by receiving a text message code, or by scanning your passport. Previous posts mention just giving an email address, maybe try at the info desks. There are also free Internet stations.

NOTE for U.S. and other ~110V travelers: Singapore uses 230V/50Hz. There are plenty of USB charging ports in the seating areas, and most wall adapters for electronics these days are dual voltage (look for writing on the plug like "Input: 100V-240V") but if not or if you need to plug something else in, bring plug and voltage adapters to be safe.

Things to do in SIN

In descriptions of things to see/do airside, when you see "garden" read "smoking area" especially if you won't be there during daylight, the only other main reason people go there is to smoke.

SkyTrain between terminals runs from 5am-2:30am but you can always walk between any of the terminals as well.

Little More than 24 Hours in Singapore especially post #5 in that thread
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/25605453-post1047.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24452870-post836.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24064053-post794.html
Best practices for ~5 hour turnaround at SIN
3 perfect days in Singapore
Singapore's MRT (Mass Rapid Transit)
Destinations > Asia > Singapore FT forum
cheap transportation to Marina Bay Sands (or any hotel) for S$9

Things to do on a long connection through NRT:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24426838-post835.html

Narita Int'l. Airport (NRT) Layover & Hotel Master Thread

There is free wifi in NRT.

Returning to the US

Even if you don't have Global Entry, CBP has a Mobile Passport Control app -- see program info and app website for d/l and list of participating airports which includes ATL (but not DTW)

You will have to pick up checked bags if any, and then everyone has to go through TSA security. International connections usually have their own checkpoint but it may not have PreCheck or CLEAR. If you want to take advantage of either of these, see airport-specific info below.

Through Delta's partnership CLEAR is free for DM, $79 for other Medallions, and $99 for General Members. Click here for more info on the partnership or to sign up.

Relevant FT threads:
Returning via ATL:

Minimum Connection Transfer Time at Atlanta (ATL): The Definitive Thread

CLEAR is now open in ATL but only at the domestic end.

For PreCheck, if you arrive in F, when you exit the hallway from customs there is a ticket desk in front of you. Normally the belt for re-checking bags on the left, and TSA screening beyond that. For PreCheck turn instead to the right (away from the drop-off luggage belt) and exit into the arrivals area, go up the escalators, and then you use the regular F terminal security checkpoint.

(It seems like NRT-ATL usually lands in E though... anyone have info to share?)

Returning via DTW:

Minimum Connection Transfer Time at Detroit (DTW): The Definitive Thread

When you exit customs normally you are directed to the right for rescreening. For PreCheck or CLEAR exit to the left as if you are an local Detroit arriving passenger and you will see some escalators in front of you. Go up 3 sets of escalators (there is a security checkpoint after the 2nd set but it does not have PreCheck). There is also an elevator.

The configuration as of Jan 2017 was, CLEAR without PreCheck was near the top of the escalators. If you have both CLEAR and PreCheck, there is a separate CLEAR lane on the right.

Duty Free Liquids

This post from 2014 says liquor etc must be checked as they cannot pass through screening in NRT/TSA. However this may have changed since then, and duty-free purchases in a Sealed Tamper-Evident Bag (STEB) might be permitted:

http://www.narita-airport.jp/en/secu...ection_ss.html

https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-...g/liquids-rule

FT: Bringing Duty-Free Liquids into USA with a Connecting Flight

If you have any experience with this, please share!

IRROPS handling:

Good at least for one DM: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/21923836-post7.html

Trip Reports/Tips:

2016: Dec, Nov, Oct #1, Oct #2, Oct #3, Sep, Apr, Feb

2015: Nov #1, Nov #2, Oct, Sep

2014: Dec, Nov #1, Nov #2, Nov #3, Nov #4, Nov #5, Oct, Sep #1, Sep #2

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[FARE GONE] DL: SFO-ATL/JFK-NRT-SIN $1,232.30 ai RT (25,318 mi; 4.9 cpm)

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Old Mar 19, 2013, 3:32 pm
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Originally Posted by DLDiamond2013
I don't typically "need" mileage runs, but I still enjoy them as I am in the group of folks who simply enjoy the art of flying and the travel experience. And of course it doesn't hurt me in maintaining Diamond status. I am on a MR similar to this itinerary on April 26-28, 2013 going MIA-JFK-NRT-SIN-NRT-JFK-MIA. If anyone else will be onboard let me know. Flights are all DL 782-173-621-622-172-1085.
Wish I could join you, how much was your fare and how many MQM do you get? Hope someone else will be joining you! Have a great trip!
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Old Mar 21, 2013, 9:11 pm
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Latest fares as of Mar 21, 2013

$1286.00 Apr 29-May 2, 6-9, Nov 4-7, 18-21, 25-28, Dec 2-5
25,318 MQM at 5.08 cpm in 72 hrs, other dates higher fares

$1286 SFO JFK NRT SIN NRT ATL SFO Oct 21-24
24,976 MQM at 5.15 cpm in 72 hrs
Couldn't get return thru JFK on that date

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Old Mar 22, 2013, 5:44 pm
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Can you get it in UA Metal something like this
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Old Mar 24, 2013, 2:21 am
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Originally Posted by gotofly
Can you get it in UA Metal something like this
Have never priced that routing on UA, but try and let me know!
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Old Mar 27, 2013, 12:50 am
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Smile Fares as of Mar 26

$1286 ai Nov 4-7, 11-14, 18-21, 25-28 5.08 cpm
25,318 MQM in 72 hrs, higher fares other dates, fares gone for Apr and May

$1252.00 ai SMF ATL NRT SIN NRT ATL SMF Nov 25-28
24,542 MQM 5.1 cpm
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Old Mar 29, 2013, 10:06 pm
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DL: SFO-ATL/JFK-NRT-SIN $1,232.30 ai RT (25,318 mi; 4.9 cpm)

I just booked in May 8 till 14 DFW-LAX-HNL-GUM-NRT-SIN-NRT-GUM-HNL-SFO-DFW with a 18 hour layover in Guam and 8 hours in Honolulu for $ 1037 each for 25500 PQM and 45500 RDM on UA
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Old Mar 30, 2013, 11:40 pm
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Great price and miles. Are you going direct from HNL GUM or are you going on the local thru Micronesia? KWJ MAJ PNP TKK GUM, used to work on MAJ. Enjoy your trip. On DL to get to GUM would be thru NRT. Thanks for your reply.
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Old Apr 4, 2013, 1:03 am
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Fares as of April 4

$1286.60 ai Nov 4-7, 11-14, 18-21, 25-28 5.08 cpm
25,318 MQM in 72 hrs, higher fares other dates

$1252.60 ai SMF ATL NRT SIN NRT ATL SMF
24,542 MQM 5.1 cpm Nov 4-7, 18-21

Other dates higher, if you want to stay a few days fare will be a bit more.
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Old Apr 4, 2013, 5:01 am
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Originally Posted by Csfing1
Fares as of April 4

$1286.60 ai Nov 4-7, 11-14, 18-21, 25-28 5.08 cpm
25,318 MQM in 72 hrs, higher fares other dates

$1252.60 ai SMF ATL NRT SIN NRT ATL SMF
24,542 MQM 5.1 cpm Nov 4-7, 18-21

Other dates higher, if you want to stay a few days fare will be a bit more.
During the SARS epidemic I did something like this on NW for less than $400 but staying over a few nights. Taking advantage of disasters. And 4 star hotels in SIN for about USD 35 night.
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Old Apr 7, 2013, 9:34 am
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Originally Posted by mot29
During the SARS epidemic I did something like this on NW for less than $400 but staying over a few nights. Taking advantage of disasters. And 4 star hotels in SIN for about USD 35 night.
Hope the fares will go down after mid Sept as they usually do, than cpm will be less, best fares were after 9/11 when many people didn't want to fly.
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Old Apr 9, 2013, 11:25 pm
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Originally Posted by gotofly
I just booked in May 8 till 14 DFW-LAX-HNL-GUM-NRT-SIN-NRT-GUM-HNL-SFO-DFW with a 18 hour layover in Guam and 8 hours in Honolulu for $ 1037 each for 25500 PQM and 45500 RDM on UA
May I know how did you manage to find such an extreme multi-city route? Amazing!
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Old Apr 10, 2013, 9:30 pm
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Originally Posted by colindexter
May I know how did you manage to find such an extreme multi-city route? Amazing!
Try communicating directly with Gotofly
He can probably answer your question.

Cheers!
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Old Apr 10, 2013, 9:31 pm
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DL: SFO-ATL/JFK-NRT-SIN $1,232.30 ai RT (25,318 mi; 4.9 cpm)

I went on Ita matrix and used milti segment routing and then went to united and I had trouble booking so I called united and gave them the routing and fare basis and they were able to create my ticket from dfw to lax to hnl to gum to Tokyo to Singapore for $ 1032 and totalizer of 25500
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Old Apr 10, 2013, 9:35 pm
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DL: SFO-ATL/JFK-NRT-SIN $1,232.30 ai RT (25,318 mi; 4.9 cpm)

I also booked from NYC to MVD on Copa air for $367 and the round trip. Mileage earned is 13000 with a day stop over in Panama City and 2 day side trip to buenos airies can't beat the price
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Old Apr 10, 2013, 9:42 pm
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Prices as of April 10

$1305.10 ai MQM 25,318 5.15 cpm Nov 4-7, 18-21, 25-28 thru JFK on ret

$1305.10 ai SFO JFK NRT SIN NRT ATL SFO Sep 30-Oct 3, 7-10,14-17, 21-24
24,976 MQM at 5.23 cpm in 72 hrs. Unable to route thru JFK on return, 342 less MQM when returning thru ATL
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