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[FARE GONE] DL: SFO-ATL/JFK-NRT-SIN $1,232.30 ai RT (25,318 mi; 4.9 cpm)

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Old Oct 24, 2015, 5:28 am
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Why would a DL SkyPesos member do this now that RDMs are earned on ticket cost?

Either for the MQMs, or to actually visit SIN FWIW there are posts in the thread about similar itineraries on AA.

How do I search for dates/prices?

One way is to use ITA Matrix. Click on "Advanced routing codes" and enter something along the lines of:
  • outbound: dl+ dtw nrt
  • inbound: dl+ nrt dtw

NOTE: Basic Economy (E) fares have been spotted on this route and come with heavy restrictions. If you want to exclude E fares from your search you can add f ~bc=e in the separate "extension codes" box

See post 1329 for some screenshots (which are now out of date, the routing codes and extension code have been split into two separate input boxes)

You may wish to experiment with things like dtw,atl or x or even x+. Read the advanced routing codes help for more ideas. (DL no longer flies JFK-NRT nonstop)

I found an itinerary that works for me, how do I book it?
  • you can try a multi-city booking on Kayak or Google Flights and click through to Delta (you can save some effort by omitting the implicit/forced connection through NRT for example)
  • if you are comfortable installing add-ons etc. you can use the ITA userscript (see the wiki at the top of that thread)
  • for the less technically-inclined there is also the Book with Matrix helper site (and its related FT thread)
  • call in if none of the above methods work or e.g. you want to add a stopover

Do I need a visa?

No visa is needed for transits (or in fact for visiting up to 90 days, subject to qualifications)
You can get your boarding passes for your Delta return flight at Transit Lounge D, which opens 3 hours before departure.

What are the best seats?

Assuming you're stuck in Y (no GUCs etc.)
Picking a seat (Delta One, Boeing 777)
Master A330-300 (A333) Best Seats Thread

Will there be wifi on the international legs?

DL now touts International Wi-Fi is available on 100% of all wide body, long-haul aircraft providing near global coverage. Given "long-haul" this may not apply to NRT-SIN.

777s should all have wifi: thread #1, thread #2; although it is still subject to coverage/availability, seems to drop out in the far northern parts of the route, and coming down the Russian coast it seemed like http was slow but working and anything else like https took forever and/or was blocked

Delta doesn't seem to sell the Gogo global day pass on their web site but you can buy it directly from Gogo. You can use the same pass on both domestic and international flights in any order as long as it is within 24 hours.

FlexPerks VISA single-flight passes can NOT be used on international flights (they do not appear as a redemption choice when you sign in to Gogo in flight)

Other related threads:

Delta 763 International Wifi Installation Progress (especially posts #7 and #9)

Delta to add Gogo WiFi to international fleet

SIN airport facilities

If you are doing a quick turn, you can remain airside the whole time. There are a number of 24-hour food outlets in the transit mall areas (center of each terminal)

Each of the 3 terminals has their Transit Hotel on Level 3. Prices are similar for all:
-Terminal 1 - Plaza Premium Lounge recently opened Aerotel. Book at: Aerotel Terminal 1
-Terminal 2 and 3 - Harilela Hospitality runs an Ambassador Transit Hotel in each Terminal, above the Orchid Garden and Movie Theater, respectively. Book at: Ambassador Transit Hotels

Note that you can actually stay in either of the 3, regardless of which Terminal you arrive in. However, when leaving the airport, you need to exit through the same Terminal as that you arrived in.

FT thread on Singapore Airport Lounges

Airport website links:
NOTE: even though the DNATA Sky View lounge lists "Delta Airlines" on the airport web page and appears on a skyteam.com lounge search, it is considered by Delta to be third-party-operated, thus if you are STE+ in Y you will not have access. People have reported gaining access on an upgrade to J but YMMV.

There is free wifi either by receiving a text message code, or by scanning your passport. Previous posts mention just giving an email address, maybe try at the info desks. There are also free Internet stations.

NOTE for U.S. and other ~110V travelers: Singapore uses 230V/50Hz. There are plenty of USB charging ports in the seating areas, and most wall adapters for electronics these days are dual voltage (look for writing on the plug like "Input: 100V-240V") but if not or if you need to plug something else in, bring plug and voltage adapters to be safe.

Things to do in SIN

In descriptions of things to see/do airside, when you see "garden" read "smoking area" especially if you won't be there during daylight, the only other main reason people go there is to smoke.

SkyTrain between terminals runs from 5am-2:30am but you can always walk between any of the terminals as well.

Little More than 24 Hours in Singapore especially post #5 in that thread
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/25605453-post1047.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24452870-post836.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24064053-post794.html
Best practices for ~5 hour turnaround at SIN
3 perfect days in Singapore
Singapore's MRT (Mass Rapid Transit)
Destinations > Asia > Singapore FT forum
cheap transportation to Marina Bay Sands (or any hotel) for S$9

Things to do on a long connection through NRT:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24426838-post835.html

Narita Int'l. Airport (NRT) Layover & Hotel Master Thread

There is free wifi in NRT.

Returning to the US

Even if you don't have Global Entry, CBP has a Mobile Passport Control app -- see program info and app website for d/l and list of participating airports which includes ATL (but not DTW)

You will have to pick up checked bags if any, and then everyone has to go through TSA security. International connections usually have their own checkpoint but it may not have PreCheck or CLEAR. If you want to take advantage of either of these, see airport-specific info below.

Through Delta's partnership CLEAR is free for DM, $79 for other Medallions, and $99 for General Members. Click here for more info on the partnership or to sign up.

Relevant FT threads:
Returning via ATL:

Minimum Connection Transfer Time at Atlanta (ATL): The Definitive Thread

CLEAR is now open in ATL but only at the domestic end.

For PreCheck, if you arrive in F, when you exit the hallway from customs there is a ticket desk in front of you. Normally the belt for re-checking bags on the left, and TSA screening beyond that. For PreCheck turn instead to the right (away from the drop-off luggage belt) and exit into the arrivals area, go up the escalators, and then you use the regular F terminal security checkpoint.

(It seems like NRT-ATL usually lands in E though... anyone have info to share?)

Returning via DTW:

Minimum Connection Transfer Time at Detroit (DTW): The Definitive Thread

When you exit customs normally you are directed to the right for rescreening. For PreCheck or CLEAR exit to the left as if you are an local Detroit arriving passenger and you will see some escalators in front of you. Go up 3 sets of escalators (there is a security checkpoint after the 2nd set but it does not have PreCheck). There is also an elevator.

The configuration as of Jan 2017 was, CLEAR without PreCheck was near the top of the escalators. If you have both CLEAR and PreCheck, there is a separate CLEAR lane on the right.

Duty Free Liquids

This post from 2014 says liquor etc must be checked as they cannot pass through screening in NRT/TSA. However this may have changed since then, and duty-free purchases in a Sealed Tamper-Evident Bag (STEB) might be permitted:

http://www.narita-airport.jp/en/secu...ection_ss.html

https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-...g/liquids-rule

FT: Bringing Duty-Free Liquids into USA with a Connecting Flight

If you have any experience with this, please share!

IRROPS handling:

Good at least for one DM: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/21923836-post7.html

Trip Reports/Tips:

2016: Dec, Nov, Oct #1, Oct #2, Oct #3, Sep, Apr, Feb

2015: Nov #1, Nov #2, Oct, Sep

2014: Dec, Nov #1, Nov #2, Nov #3, Nov #4, Nov #5, Oct, Sep #1, Sep #2

2013: Oct
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[FARE GONE] DL: SFO-ATL/JFK-NRT-SIN $1,232.30 ai RT (25,318 mi; 4.9 cpm)

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Old Jul 16, 2017, 1:46 pm
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Originally Posted by Love_Travel
I just booked PHX-SEA-NRT-SIN - 13 Oct and Return back on 15-Oct; $856
At the time of Booking the ticket it showed MQM of 38000. Now I log in it does not show total MQM. Miles flown shows as N/A for SEA-NRT segment. Where do i get the MQM? Is this a decent deal? 5 Hr Layover in SIN and 1.45 Hrs in NRT.
As per GCMAP, http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=phx-sea-nrt-sin each trip should be 9200 MQM, totalling 18400 MQM in Y.

Unless you purchased J / F.
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Old Jul 16, 2017, 3:57 pm
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Thank you. I think I can get a better deal. So will cancel and look for a better one
You're better off flying to Chicago and starting there.
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Old Jul 16, 2017, 6:24 pm
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I can only fly in the weekend (Friday to Sunday). Positioning flight to ORD from my home town (ATL) will at least cost $250 additional.

Another option I am looking is ATL-NRT-SIN-round trip for $1000. 20,000 MQM at 5 cents/ MQM

Originally Posted by hockeyinsider
You're better off flying to Chicago and starting there.
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Old Jul 16, 2017, 7:16 pm
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Originally Posted by Love_Travel
I can only fly in the weekend (Friday to Sunday). Positioning flight to ORD from my home town (ATL) will at least cost $250 additional.

Another option I am looking is ATL-NRT-SIN-round trip for $1000. 20,000 MQM at 5 cents/ MQM
Don't forget about using pay-with-miles to bring it down.
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Old Jul 16, 2017, 8:06 pm
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Originally Posted by tomasdev
As per GCMAP, http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=phx-sea-nrt-sin each trip should be 9200 MQM, totalling 18400 MQM in Y.

Unless you purchased J / F.
If you would like a lower fare, then $687 r/t can be purchased from LAS to SIN.
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Old Jul 20, 2017, 11:35 am
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Thanks for your info about flights from LAS. If anyone else gets some good prices from other locations please post. IAH usually less than DFW and more MQM than SFO and LAX. If you fly the A350 from DTW we no longer get C+ and the price for Prem Select is too high for my taste! Get bulkhead or exit row seats instead. From ATL is 777 for the present.

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Old Jul 20, 2017, 12:39 pm
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Originally Posted by Dalat767
If you would like a lower fare, then $687 r/t can be purchased from LAS to SIN.
That's a very nice price.
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Old Jul 20, 2017, 11:24 pm
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DCA-JFK-CDG-BOM Round trip Business Class 2400$ - 26665 MQM. Looks very good as I can only make the trip in the weekend - Aug 4 - 6
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Old Jul 21, 2017, 1:00 pm
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Your trip to BOM is 9 cpm but it is in J which is a great price but here are some dates in Sep from IAH SIN all in Y $662.36 21,602 MQM 3.07 cpm Sep 4-6, 5-7.
$679.36 21,668 MQM 3.14 cpm Sep 6-8
$764.36 21,668 MQM 3.53 cpm Sep 3-5
Itin IAH ATL/DTW NRT SIN NRT DTW/ATL IAH
Prices from DL.com goes out thru ATL or DTW and ret same depending on which is less DTW or ATL usually more but not always. Tried Aug dates like your flight and was $1400 which is too high for Y. Thanks for your post and share whatever you find. Happy Travels! Blessings!
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Old Jul 21, 2017, 1:07 pm
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Thank you. IAH has some killer deals, if I could fly on week days, i will take it immediately

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Old Jul 24, 2017, 1:53 pm
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Smile Prices on Jul 24

Originally Posted by Love_Travel
Thank you. IAH has some killer deals, if I could fly on week days, i will take it immediately
Here are some weekend prices from IAH - Fri-Sun - dates not given are higher prices. Prices from DL.com IAH DTW/ATL NRT SIN NRT DTW/ATL IAH
$939.36 21,602 MQM 4.35 cpm Sep 15-17, Oct 8-10, 27-29, Nov 3-5

$802.36 21,668 MQM 3.7 cpm Nov 6-8, 13-15 Lowest Price
$830.36-$850.36 21,602-21,668 MQM 3.84 cpm Sep 4-6, 11-13, 18-20, 25-27, Oct 2-6, 23-25, Nov 6-8, 13-15
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Old Jul 24, 2017, 8:49 pm
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Looks very good. Thanks for finding these excellent deals
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Old Jul 24, 2017, 9:04 pm
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Noob question. How do I find these deals on Google Flights if there are no dates in the post?
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Old Jul 25, 2017, 12:07 am
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Smile

Originally Posted by Chrisbuddy87
Noob question. How do I find these deals on Google Flights if there are no dates in the post?
What dates are you looking for as there were dates given for my post? Am assuming that you are looking at IAH DTW/ATL NRT SIN NRT DTW/ATL IAH.
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Old Jul 26, 2017, 7:19 am
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China Eastern

China Eastern has pretty cheap fights to SIN from JFK/ORD (via PVG). Only downsides to this? All I care about is MQM for DL and any fare class will get me 100%. I heard the horror stories about PVG. That's the only downside I can think of.
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