May 21, 2013, 12:18 pm
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Jun 14, 2013, 9:29 pm
#1216
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Awesome call on BA miles to the Galapagos. Your post has gotten me thinking further.
Jun 14, 2013, 9:48 pm
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I was playing with availability searching the UA site earlier today and found some JJ flights, but my searches were for one person at dates pretty close in. I haven't played with dates in the southern hemisphere summer or much further out at all. The Taca/Avianca flights to the deep south generally aren't on big, fancy planes, but it still strikes me as a great deal.
Awesome call on BA miles to the Galapagos. Your post has gotten me thinking further.
Awesome call on BA miles to the Galapagos. Your post has gotten me thinking further.
, I was in GIG last month and can verify firsthand. I've just always heard that JJ releases almost nothing for award seats so I was curious. Not much wrong with AV of course either. Hopefully the Avios work out well for you!
Jun 14, 2013, 10:30 pm
#1218
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Most of the JJ flights to deep(er) SA aren't on big planes either , I was in GIG last month and can verify firsthand. I've just always heard that JJ releases almost nothing for award seats so I was curious. Not much wrong with AV of course either. Hopefully the Avios work out well for you!
, I was in GIG last month and can verify firsthand. I've just always heard that JJ releases almost nothing for award seats so I was curious. Not much wrong with AV of course either. Hopefully the Avios work out well for you!There is also GRU-EZE availability on Turkish in business from GRU to EZE on some days. I think they introduced this route recently, as I saw ads when I was last in Buenos Aires and economy fares EZE-GRU-IST were really cheap (not UA-earning after a certain date, but great vacation fares). As a tag flight, I assume there are many extra seats for award availability.
I know JJ operates flights from GRU to AEP, but UA.com searches on about 8 dates don't show any award availability, which seems odd. GRU-EZE is pretty good, with A330s. If my intended stopover wasn't in Brazil, I think I'd just opt for the 320 from Lima to EZE.
Sorry if this is overly sidetracking from the discussion of the fare. The NYC-GYE just seems like such a great start to a larger vacation.
Jun 15, 2013, 4:07 am
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Jun 15, 2013, 9:51 am
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NYC-MOW T/R
Airline: Finnair
Cabin class: Business
Booking class: I
Fare basis: ICAMPUS
Price: 891 USD + tax approx 607 USD, total 1.498 USD incl. taxes
Advance purchase: 3 days
Buy latest: 2013-JUN-11
Min/Max stay: SU / 12 months
Valid for departure: between 2013-MAY-22 and 2013-DEC-15
Stopover: Free stopovers in Helsinki
Child discount: 25% of the base fare
Refundable: No
Change: Yes, against 250 USD each time
Routing: New York-(AY)-Helsinki-(AY)-Moscow
Airport in Moscow is Moskva Sheremetyevo (SVO).
[Business class] New York-Moskva T/R, Finnair, 10.000 SEK inkl. skatter
Airline: Finnair
Cabin class: Business
Booking class: I
Fare basis: ICAMPUS
Price: 891 USD + tax approx 607 USD, total 1.498 USD incl. taxes
Advance purchase: 3 days
Buy latest: 2013-JUN-11
Min/Max stay: SU / 12 months
Valid for departure: between 2013-MAY-22 and 2013-DEC-15
Stopover: Free stopovers in Helsinki
Child discount: 25% of the base fare
Refundable: No
Change: Yes, against 250 USD each time
Routing: New York-(AY)-Helsinki-(AY)-Moscow
Airport in Moscow is Moskva Sheremetyevo (SVO).
[Business class] New York-Moskva T/R, Finnair, 10.000 SEK inkl. skatter
Jun 15, 2013, 10:54 am
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I was playing with availability searching the UA site earlier today and found some JJ flights, but my searches were for one person at dates pretty close in. I haven't played with dates in the southern hemisphere summer or much further out at all. The Taca/Avianca flights to the deep south generally aren't on big, fancy planes, but it still strikes me as a great deal.
Jun 15, 2013, 12:52 pm
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AA: JFK/LGA-GYE starting @ $747ai (A,I)
Sample:
Oct 3-7 JFK-MIA-GYE-MIA-JFK $747ai (6049mi ~12.3cpm)
-FROM NORTH AMERICA - PERMITTED 17JAN THROUGH 04JUN OR 06AUG THROUGH 23NOV OR 25DEC THROUGH 31DEC FOR EACH GATEWAY DEPARTURE.
TO NORTH AMERICA - PERMITTED 17JAN THROUGH 14MAR OR 01APR THROUGH 27JUN OR 17SEP THROUGH 31DEC FOR EACH GATEWAY DEPARTURE.
-PERMITTED MON THROUGH THU FROM THE GATEWAY.
-1 FREE STOPOVER PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT IN MIA/NYC/CHI/DFW/LAX.
-FOR ROUND TRIP FARES.
Other days of the week and more stops for more $....
Sample:
Oct 3-7 JFK-MIA-GYE-MIA-JFK $747ai (6049mi ~12.3cpm)
-FROM NORTH AMERICA - PERMITTED 17JAN THROUGH 04JUN OR 06AUG THROUGH 23NOV OR 25DEC THROUGH 31DEC FOR EACH GATEWAY DEPARTURE.
TO NORTH AMERICA - PERMITTED 17JAN THROUGH 14MAR OR 01APR THROUGH 27JUN OR 17SEP THROUGH 31DEC FOR EACH GATEWAY DEPARTURE.
-PERMITTED MON THROUGH THU FROM THE GATEWAY.
-1 FREE STOPOVER PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT IN MIA/NYC/CHI/DFW/LAX.
-FOR ROUND TRIP FARES.
Other days of the week and more stops for more $....
Jun 15, 2013, 1:46 pm
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Jun 15, 2013, 3:34 pm
#1224
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AA: JFK/LGA-GYE starting @ $747ai (A,I)
Sample:
Oct 3-7 JFK-MIA-GYE-MIA-JFK $747ai (6049mi ~12.3cpm)
-FROM NORTH AMERICA - PERMITTED 17JAN THROUGH 04JUN OR 06AUG THROUGH 23NOV OR 25DEC THROUGH 31DEC FOR EACH GATEWAY DEPARTURE.
TO NORTH AMERICA - PERMITTED 17JAN THROUGH 14MAR OR 01APR THROUGH 27JUN OR 17SEP THROUGH 31DEC FOR EACH GATEWAY DEPARTURE.
-PERMITTED MON THROUGH THU FROM THE GATEWAY.
-1 FREE STOPOVER PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT IN MIA/NYC/CHI/DFW/LAX.
-FOR ROUND TRIP FARES.
Other days of the week and more stops for more $....
Sample:
Oct 3-7 JFK-MIA-GYE-MIA-JFK $747ai (6049mi ~12.3cpm)
-FROM NORTH AMERICA - PERMITTED 17JAN THROUGH 04JUN OR 06AUG THROUGH 23NOV OR 25DEC THROUGH 31DEC FOR EACH GATEWAY DEPARTURE.
TO NORTH AMERICA - PERMITTED 17JAN THROUGH 14MAR OR 01APR THROUGH 27JUN OR 17SEP THROUGH 31DEC FOR EACH GATEWAY DEPARTURE.
-PERMITTED MON THROUGH THU FROM THE GATEWAY.
-1 FREE STOPOVER PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT IN MIA/NYC/CHI/DFW/LAX.
-FOR ROUND TRIP FARES.
Other days of the week and more stops for more $....
However, LAX does not seem to work and that is sadly a dealbreaker, atleast for me.
If anyone manage to pull up JFK-LAX-MIA-GYE R/T. Please shout it out!
JFK-LAX = 210 TP + 3713 Avios
LAX-MIA = 210 TP + 3513 Avios
MIA-GYE = 40 TP + 2401 Avios
920 TP + 19.250 Avios
?
Last edited by FirstClassSE; Jun 15, 2013 at 3:43 pm
Jun 15, 2013, 4:01 pm
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.This is an MPM fare, with MPM as follows:
/WITHIN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE/ MPM 3588
MILEAGE SYSTEM APPLIES BETWEEN ORIGIN AND DESTINATION
MILEAGE SYSTEM APPLIES ORIGIN TO DESTINATION
TICKETED POINT DEDUCTION OF 800 MILES APPLIES
WHEN TRAVEL IS VIA CHI AND/OR MIA AND/OR DFW
Since JFK-LAX is 2475 miles, LAX-MIA is 2342, and MIA-GYE is another 1922, routing via LAX would go way beyond MPM.
Jun 15, 2013, 4:14 pm
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Won't happen. AA does a lot of this, copying and pasting of parts of their routing rules from other fares. Just because a stopover is allowed in LAX, doesn't mean it can be routed through LAX .
This is an MPM fare, with MPM as follows:
/WITHIN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE/ MPM 3588
MILEAGE SYSTEM APPLIES BETWEEN ORIGIN AND DESTINATION
MILEAGE SYSTEM APPLIES ORIGIN TO DESTINATION
TICKETED POINT DEDUCTION OF 800 MILES APPLIES
WHEN TRAVEL IS VIA CHI AND/OR MIA AND/OR DFW
Since JFK-LAX is 2475 miles, LAX-MIA is 2342, and MIA-GYE is another 1922, routing via LAX would go way beyond MPM.
.This is an MPM fare, with MPM as follows:
/WITHIN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE/ MPM 3588
MILEAGE SYSTEM APPLIES BETWEEN ORIGIN AND DESTINATION
MILEAGE SYSTEM APPLIES ORIGIN TO DESTINATION
TICKETED POINT DEDUCTION OF 800 MILES APPLIES
WHEN TRAVEL IS VIA CHI AND/OR MIA AND/OR DFW
Since JFK-LAX is 2475 miles, LAX-MIA is 2342, and MIA-GYE is another 1922, routing via LAX would go way beyond MPM.
Then i know someone that would be flying alot to Ecuador in the near future.
JFK-DFW-MIA-GYE-MIA-DFW-JFK for 890$ is pretty decent but not good enough for an MR imo.
Jun 15, 2013, 11:52 pm
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Maybe it doesn't from an avios standpoint, but from an AA EQP it's not terrible at 6.6 CPP (cents per point).
Jun 16, 2013, 5:35 am
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UA $812 P fare LAX-IAH-BOG 1-day turns in July
UA $812 AI on ITA, bookable @UAL with many dates, including weekends in July for 7204 base miles. I found LAX-EWR-BOG-IAH-DEN-LAX, 8878 base miles, P fare, all UA metal. UA & Delta other routings available for slightly higher fares $813 to 826.
Edit: $810 AI UA fare also available SFO-IAH-BOG or $812 via SFO-EWR-BOG-IAH-DEN-SFO for 8989 base/P fare.
Edit: $810 AI UA fare also available SFO-IAH-BOG or $812 via SFO-EWR-BOG-IAH-DEN-SFO for 8989 base/P fare.
Last edited by travelsavant; Jun 16, 2013 at 5:47 am
Jun 16, 2013, 10:19 am
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UA $812 AI on ITA, bookable @UAL with many dates, including weekends in July for 7204 base miles. I found LAX-EWR-BOG-IAH-DEN-LAX, 8878 base miles, P fare, all UA metal. UA & Delta other routings available for slightly higher fares $813 to 826.
Edit: $810 AI UA fare also available SFO-IAH-BOG or $812 via SFO-EWR-BOG-IAH-DEN-SFO for 8989 base/P fare.
Edit: $810 AI UA fare also available SFO-IAH-BOG or $812 via SFO-EWR-BOG-IAH-DEN-SFO for 8989 base/P fare.
Jun 16, 2013, 10:30 am
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How exactly does Avios come into play? No direct flights from GYE - IPC, unless Avios is cheap enough to go through SCL. I really want to do IPC, but routing isn't the best for a quick 3-4 day trip. Is anything better than NYC-MIA-GYE-SCL-IPC-SCL-GYE-MIA-NYC ? I may have seen a IPC-LIM-GYE on LAN, but cant find it on the outbound.