May 21, 2013, 12:18 pm
Last edit by: Sykes
- Fare feels too good to be true? Don't call the airline!!!!!!
- Double check that the fare is actually in Business or First as some online search engines or OTA's confuse booking classes on some airlines.
- Post as many details as possible about the First / Business fare, including fare class, fare basis, one-way / roundtrip, sales channel, sample dates & total price, including taxes.
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- Refrain from posting fare requests or engaging in off topic debates such as fare trends, specific aircraft configuration or visa requirements
- The deeply discounted international fares discussed here are almost always specific to a certain country of origin, so don't ask if it works in reverse (e.g. a SFO-LHR-SFO fare usually won't work LHR-SFO-LHR). Domestic fares more commonly work in reverse.
- Last, but not least, Don't call the Airline!
Good Deal Premium Fares 2013
May 28, 2013, 11:16 pm
#1141
In memoriam
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: LAX
Programs: AA EXP, DL PLT, UA 1P, SPG Gold
Posts: 415
May 29, 2013, 9:22 am
#1143
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Posts: 8,658
F class fares: LAX-TYO-LAX for $3,300 to $3,800
Los Angeles (LAX) to Tokyo (NRT) - Mon, Jul 15
American Airlines Inc. 169 Dep: 12:30PM Arr: 3:50PM 11h 20m Boeing 777 First (P)
Tue, Jul 16
Tokyo (NRT) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Tue, Jul 23
American Airlines Inc. 170
Dep: 3:55PM Arr: 10:15AM 10h 20m Boeing 777 First (P)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $3,321.80
Total cost for 1 passenger $3,321.80
Los Angeles (LAX) to Tokyo (NRT) - Mon, Jul 15
American Airlines Inc. 169 Dep: 12:30PM Arr: 3:50PM 11h 20m Boeing 777 First (P)
Tue, Jul 16
Tokyo (NRT) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Tue, Jul 23
American Airlines Inc. 170
Dep: 3:55PM Arr: 10:15AM 10h 20m Boeing 777 First (P)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $3,321.80
Total cost for 1 passenger $3,321.80
May 29, 2013, 1:35 pm
#1144
Join Date: May 2013
Location: HEL
Programs: AY+ Platinum / OWE
Posts: 112
Fare code: P1X5N4B1
Good availability starting on July...
Day/Time restrictions
PERMITTED MON THROUGH THU ON EACH TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR.
Minimum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE NO
EARLIER THAN 3 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND
TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR.
Good availability starting on July...
Day/Time restrictions
PERMITTED MON THROUGH THU ON EACH TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR.
Minimum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE NO
EARLIER THAN 3 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND
TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR.
Last edited by finhub; May 29, 2013 at 2:04 pm
May 29, 2013, 11:46 pm
#1145
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Manhattan Beach, California
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Posts: 6,367
The LA IEEEVH6P MEX IPC fare has some nice rules. There are no restrictions on transfers and free stopovers, I'm guessing MPM is probably the major limit on how this can be used. Anyone else played with this?
In reading the fare rules, I see the only restriction is travel must be to/from Mexico/Peru. That allows a diversion via CUN on the outbound (since there is a CUN-LIM flight).
I was pounding through some options and saw one routing that priced out routing MEX-LIM-SCL-IPC-SCL-EZE-LIM-MEX. I haven't been able to get a stopover in EZE but can get them everywhere else. SCL-EZE-LIM is actually a single flight number, that might explain why it comes up.
Also, ITA keeps hitting me with Circle trip minimum check if I try too many stopovers. Anyone had luck getting stops in EZE or GRU? Or am I missing something in the fare rules?
In reading the fare rules, I see the only restriction is travel must be to/from Mexico/Peru. That allows a diversion via CUN on the outbound (since there is a CUN-LIM flight).
I was pounding through some options and saw one routing that priced out routing MEX-LIM-SCL-IPC-SCL-EZE-LIM-MEX. I haven't been able to get a stopover in EZE but can get them everywhere else. SCL-EZE-LIM is actually a single flight number, that might explain why it comes up.
Also, ITA keeps hitting me with Circle trip minimum check if I try too many stopovers. Anyone had luck getting stops in EZE or GRU? Or am I missing something in the fare rules?
May 30, 2013, 2:00 am
#1146
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Seattle, WA, USA
Posts: 315
EZE stopover
I was pounding through some options and saw one routing that priced out routing MEX-LIM-SCL-IPC-SCL-EZE-LIM-MEX. I haven't been able to get a stopover in EZE but can get them everywhere else. SCL-EZE-LIM is actually a single flight number, that might explain why it comes up.
Also, ITA keeps hitting me with Circle trip minimum check if I try too many stopovers. Anyone had luck getting stops in EZE or GRU? Or am I missing something in the fare rules?
Here is what I found. I tried to work a longer layover of 2 or 3 days in EZE and it raised theprice drastically but I think that is an availability issue rather than a 'non-permitted' issue.
I just edited this to note that I found a 4 day stopover in EZE leaving October 26th and continuing October 30th to IPC for the same $14,000 pesos.
Vuelo 1: lun. oct. 28
Ciudad de México Buenos Aires Lima
MEX 15:35 EZE 06:20 +1 día 1 Escala
11h 45min
LAN Airlines 2629 operado por LANPERU
LAN Airlines 2427 operado por LANPERU
Detalles del vuelo
Vuelo 2: mié. oct. 30
Buenos Aires Hanga Roa Santiago
EZE 18:00 IPC 13:10 +1 día 1 Escala
21h 10min
LAN Airlines 532
LAN Airlines 841
Detalles del vuelo
Vuelo 3: vie. nov. 1
Hanga Roa Ciudad de México Santiago, Buenos Aires, Lima
IPC 14:10 MEX 14:00 +1 día 3 Con escalas
24h 50min
LAN Airlines 842
LAN Airlines 2426
LAN Airlines 2426
LAN Airlines 2626 operado por LANPERU
Detalles del vuelo
MXN$14,479
por persona
impuestos y cargos incluidos
SLECCIONAR
Last edited by TravelMann; May 30, 2013 at 2:14 am
May 30, 2013, 11:43 am
#1147
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,233
AA: DFW-BDA (Hamilton, Bermuda) ~$659ai (A,I)
Sample:
Sep 14-15 DFW-MIA-BDA-MIA-DFW ~$659ai (A,I) (4326mi ~15.2cpm)
-TO BDA -TRAVEL IS NOT PERMITTED 15DEC 13 THROUGH 15JAN 14.
FROM BDA -TRAVEL IS NOT PERMITTED 15DEC 13 THROUGH 12JAN 14.
-2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT LIMITED TO 1 FREE AND 1 AT USD 100.00.1 FREE IN MIA/NYC/CHI/DFW/LAX 1 IN MIA/NYC/CHI/DFW/LAX AT USD 100.00.
-TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN 2 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN OR - TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
-FOR ROUND TRIP FARES.
Sample:
Sep 14-15 DFW-MIA-BDA-MIA-DFW ~$659ai (A,I) (4326mi ~15.2cpm)
-TO BDA -TRAVEL IS NOT PERMITTED 15DEC 13 THROUGH 15JAN 14.
FROM BDA -TRAVEL IS NOT PERMITTED 15DEC 13 THROUGH 12JAN 14.
-2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT LIMITED TO 1 FREE AND 1 AT USD 100.00.1 FREE IN MIA/NYC/CHI/DFW/LAX 1 IN MIA/NYC/CHI/DFW/LAX AT USD 100.00.
-TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN 2 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN OR - TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
-FOR ROUND TRIP FARES.
May 30, 2013, 1:34 pm
#1148
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Manhattan Beach, California
Programs: BMI Diamond Club Gold forever
Posts: 6,367
Thanks for sharing TravelMann
After some more digging I noticed that there is also a fare without the travel to/from Mexico/Peru restriction, it is IEEEVH3P and comes in at slightly more (ITA shows the base fare each way being 8,299mxn). When I go crazy on the stopovers, I keep getting a CTM charge added, and it looks like people have complained that ITA mistakenly adds that. I may have to resort to a TA to see if I can get what I want (which is essentially what we used to do with pre-Avios BA awards in Latam).
After some more digging I noticed that there is also a fare without the travel to/from Mexico/Peru restriction, it is IEEEVH3P and comes in at slightly more (ITA shows the base fare each way being 8,299mxn). When I go crazy on the stopovers, I keep getting a CTM charge added, and it looks like people have complained that ITA mistakenly adds that. I may have to resort to a TA to see if I can get what I want (which is essentially what we used to do with pre-Avios BA awards in Latam).
May 30, 2013, 10:46 pm
#1149
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: AMS
Programs: KL PFL; BA Gold; A3 Silver; EY Silver; SU Silver
Posts: 2,488
It could be an issue with certain reservation system, for example, some GDSs namely Sabre still add MPM surcharge even when a rule says 'ignore'. It could also be an issue with specific fare coding not uniformly recognisable throughout GDSs.
May 31, 2013, 5:43 pm
#1150
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: FL35
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Posts: 420
Mexico-IPC seems to be dying out in Biz - availability seems to be way down. Could be just I inventory problem. Checking.
May 31, 2013, 7:28 pm
#1151
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: St. Paul, MN
Programs: Walmart Super Elite
Posts: 727
Agreed -- I was checking on various dates and routings over a period of a couple of days and noticed the prices on some of the dates had increased. Although after booking MEX-IPC and while attempting to change the assigned seats, I found that there were no other seats available on my SCL-IPC segment in late October.
Last edited by Bago'peanuts; May 31, 2013 at 7:36 pm
Jun 3, 2013, 4:14 am
#1152
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: West Coast, USA
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Jun 3, 2013, 4:53 pm
#1154
Join Date: Aug 2011
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Posts: 789
ST undermatched for 1400??!!?!?!
attached screenshot is with price in PLN
http://oi43.tinypic.com/2rqnfpl.jpg
attached screenshot is with price in PLN
http://oi43.tinypic.com/2rqnfpl.jpg
Jun 3, 2013, 5:11 pm
#1155
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