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Feb 26, 2013, 10:07 am

#511

ChicagoDave

Join Date: Dec 2012

Location: ORD

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoDave

DL/KL/AF also have SAN to LHR for $1800-$1900 with 10 day minimum & departing from 5/15/13 - 8/31/13

Quote:

Originally Posted by austgap

Are these DL fares still live? The best I've found is $2.2k even with the 10 day min

Unfortunately, they appear dead. The new sale is only on DL & from 11/1/13 - 12/12/13, but it's gone down to $1670. EF shows it also available until 3/20/13, but I didn't see anything price out with the fare.

Feb 26, 2013, 10:47 am

#512

JohnAx

Join Date: Jun 2000

Location: LAX

Posts: 3,639

Quote:

Originally Posted by da_erazo

I just booked this morning a quick weekend trip in business with AA fro DFW to HEL for April 25-28. I am flying from SPS-DFW-LHR on AA metal and from LHR-HEL Finnair on 4/25
Flight numbers are: AA3294/AA80/AY840 and returning on 4/28 HEL-LHR AY then all the way with AA LHR-DFW-SPS flight numbers AY832/AA81/AA3397

Ticket price was $1989.97 in business (I). Only the flight to SPS is Y (doesnt offer business).
I booked around 10 minutes ago. I am trying to apply couple upgrades.

I dont know if this fare will last or it may be a glitch.

ITA doesn't admit to a fare lower than $4686, r/t or multi-city. You got the half-price special.

Feb 26, 2013, 10:58 am

#513

BookerNYC

Join Date: Aug 2004

Location: SFO

Programs: UA 1K, AA Plat, AS MVPG

Posts: 287

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheltzel

I saw LAX-FRA-MAD-FRA-LAX on ITA in May and June on LH metal. Isn't the LAX_FRA route on the 74H with the new J seats?

Just to confirm, these are all minimum 10 day stays, right?

Feb 26, 2013, 12:17 pm

#514

unavaca

Join Date: Jun 2007

Location: YVR SFO

Programs: UA G

Posts: 4,866

Quote:

Originally Posted by BookerNYC

Just to confirm, these are all minimum 10 day stays, right?

Yes, there was a 10 day minimum stay on all of these.

Feb 26, 2013, 1:09 pm

#515

RCyyz

Join Date: Dec 2007

Location: Body in Downtown YYZ, heart and mind elsewhere

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Posts: 5,132

Re: LAX-MAD on *A

I was having trouble finding this one and it was bugging me! So here are the relevant details:

$2176.80 on LH, $2070.20 on UA.
13,702 miles (+ COS on whatever program you're on; P fares)
Must be booked by 01 March 2013

PERMITTED SUN THROUGH THU ON EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
PERMITTED 17MAY 13 THROUGH 24AUG 13 ON THE OUTBOUND
RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 60 DAYS
BEFORE DEPARTURE.
WAITLIST NOT PERMITTED.
TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 72 HOURS AFTER
RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 60 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE
WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.

TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN 10
DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 12
MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
STOPOVERS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
5 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE
3 FREE IN AREA 2/AREA 3 IN EACH DIRECTION
2 FREE IN AREA 1 IN EACH DIRECTION
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED
SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.

Feb 26, 2013, 5:19 pm

#516

cfischer

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Location: BOS/EAP

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Posts: 32,017

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. HFH

Was available for USD $2,111 in AC website just now ex-BOS. Doesn't come up on Kayak at all.

Does this book into J cabin on SA as well, or just the AC legs?

Edited to add: Never mind. Never having used the AC website, I didn't realize that the price listed on the first screen was for the outbound only. Total price is a bit over USD $4,300. And the LHR/JNB segments are in Y. Back to the drawing boards....

oh yes, BOS works just fine

booked BOS-BLR-BOS for $2890 today for early April travel. Amazing fare with a 748i FRA-BLR ^

Feb 26, 2013, 5:32 pm

#517

AA_EXP09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 18sas

Thanks all for the help on the ???-MAD deal. I finally found some suitable itins on DL.

Settled on MIA-ATL-MAD-ATL-MIA DL metal and 006 ticket stock for 11 nights in mid-May $1498ai.

Booked into S, which may become Z before the trip due to SkyTeam fare harmonization.

$1498 / 14,792 MQM/EQM = 10.1 cpm.

Now that's a deal.

BOS and ORD were about the same price. I also checked June departures and they were about $300 more. Still a great deal

You can do better on an MPM fare

Feb 27, 2013, 12:11 am

#518

whakojacko

Join Date: Mar 2006

Location: SFO

Programs: UA S

Posts: 1,335

Not sure how it qualifies on the "good deal" spectrum, but AC seems to have some pretty reasonably priced J fares to South Africa out right now. YYZ to JNB via LHR/FRA/MUC ~C$2550ai, YVR ~C$3k, a little more to JNB. Must be flown by 4/30

Feb 27, 2013, 2:10 am

#519

exbayern

Join Date: Sep 2006

Posts: 6,967

Quote:

Originally Posted by whakojacko

This is *A matching the AF offer which I posted a few pages back. Sometimes *A matches the AF offers, sometimes not. 14 day advance purchase, book by 28 Feb. Check carrier to ensure that it books into Z and not P for mileage earning.

Similar fares to India.

Feb 27, 2013, 4:31 am

#520

bertheike

Join Date: Sep 2002

Location: Germany / Thailand

Programs: M&M/S SPG livetime gold, but not running behind status & points anymore! Now only book value for $

Posts: 3,090

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norway_Asia

Good deal, terrible airline, but comfortable seats (CAI-Asia-CAI) on par with LH/SK/KL/TG etc.

1 adult(s) x (739.00 + 254.57) = 993.57 EUR
1 child(ren) x (554.00 + 254.57) = 808.57 EUR
really not bad, but not available in JUL/AUG then it is 250 Euro more

Feb 27, 2013, 1:03 pm

#521

18sas

Join Date: Jan 2008

Location: KATL

Programs: DL DM/2MM

Posts: 2,033

Quote:

Originally Posted by AA_EXP09

You can do better on an MPM fare

Only marginally so, as far as I can tell. Adding stops seems to add $50 per pop. Best I saw was MIA-DTW-ATL-MAD-ATL-DTW-MIA which worked out to 9.7cpm. Not worth the extra effort imho.

If there are bigger savings than that, I'd love to know, but I don't see them.

Feb 27, 2013, 3:36 pm

#522

austgap

Join Date: Apr 2008

Location: Sydney, AU

Programs: QF SG,Velocity WP, HI Diamond, Accor Platinum

Posts: 399

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoDave

Thanks for that ChicagoDave might look at another trip in Nov/Dec. Shame was a great fare when you think of the amount of tax for J fares out of LHR.

Feb 27, 2013, 6:11 pm

#523

18sas

Join Date: Jan 2008

Location: KATL

Programs: DL DM/2MM

Posts: 2,033

Quote:

Originally Posted by 18sas

OK. So in the last 4 hours, the <$1500 MIA-MAD deal is now dead.

The June and later deals for $1800+ seem to still be active.

Feb 27, 2013, 6:41 pm

#524

Dr. HFH

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cfischer

oh yes, BOS works just fine

Where are you finding these great AC J fares to JNB (i.e., which website)? I'm looking to depart on the outbound on March 31, verrry flexible on the return (if you catch my drift). Any help will be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Last edited by Dr. HFH; Feb 27, 2013 at 6:59 pm

Feb 27, 2013, 7:52 pm

#525

cfischer

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. HFH

YGPM