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Old Oct 11, 13, 10:13 am
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Lax-nrt $3630 nh rt f

Not sure if this has been posted, but it looks pretty consistent starting second week of January until next Oct. Fly out of LAX on mon-thru, I tried for 6-9 days stay and the fare was approx. the same. I could not find the fare on ana, but was able to find it on an OTA (orbitz) but have not actually booked. Also note, I also saw some availability on AA for about $400 less, I didn't look out to see if there was as wide open availability, but here are two examples in Feb:

Los Angeles (LAX) to Tokyo (NRT) - Mon, Feb 17
American Airlines Inc. American Airlines Inc. 169 Dep: 11:15AM Arr: 4:20PM 12h 5m Boeing 777 First (P)
Tue, Feb 18

Tokyo (NRT) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Tue, Feb 25
American Airlines Inc. American Airlines Inc. 170 Dep: 4:10PM Arr: 9:00AM 9h 50m Boeing 777 First (P)

Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $3,323.20
Total cost for 1 passenger $3,323.20

Los Angeles (LAX) to Tokyo (NRT) - Mon, Feb 17
All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. 5 Dep: 11:30AM Arr: 4:25PM 11h 55m Boeing 777 First (A)
Tue, Feb 18

Tokyo (NRT) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Tue, Feb 25
All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. 6 Dep: 5:05PM Arr: 9:50AM 9h 45m Boeing 777 First (A)

Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $3,629.60
Total cost for 1 passenger $3,629.60
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Old Oct 11, 13, 2:17 pm
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Originally Posted by dixon View Post
Not sure if this has been posted, but it looks pretty consistent starting second week of January until next Oct. Fly out of LAX on mon-thru, I tried for 6-9 days stay and the fare was approx. the same. I could not find the fare on ana, but was able to find it on an OTA (orbitz) but have not actually booked. Also note, I also saw some availability on AA for about $400 less, I didn't look out to see if there was as wide open availability, but here are two examples in Feb:

Los Angeles (LAX) to Tokyo (NRT) - Mon, Feb 17
American Airlines Inc. American Airlines Inc. 169 Dep: 11:15AM Arr: 4:20PM 12h 5m Boeing 777 First (P)
Tue, Feb 18

Tokyo (NRT) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Tue, Feb 25
American Airlines Inc. American Airlines Inc. 170 Dep: 4:10PM Arr: 9:00AM 9h 50m Boeing 777 First (P)

Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $3,323.20
Total cost for 1 passenger $3,323.20

Los Angeles (LAX) to Tokyo (NRT) - Mon, Feb 17
All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. 5 Dep: 11:30AM Arr: 4:25PM 11h 55m Boeing 777 First (A)
Tue, Feb 18

Tokyo (NRT) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Tue, Feb 25
All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. 6 Dep: 5:05PM Arr: 9:50AM 9h 45m Boeing 777 First (A)

Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $3,629.60
Total cost for 1 passenger $3,629.60
Not a MR by any means, but that is one heck of a good price for NH F. Looks like ex-JFK F for around that same time is ~5k RT.
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Old Oct 11, 13, 3:43 pm
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Originally Posted by dixon View Post

Los Angeles (LAX) to Tokyo (NRT) - Mon, Feb 17
American Airlines Inc. American Airlines Inc. 169 Dep: 11:15AM Arr: 4:20PM 12h 5m Boeing 777 First (P)
Tue, Feb 18

Tokyo (NRT) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Tue, Feb 25
American Airlines Inc. American Airlines Inc. 170 Dep: 4:10PM Arr: 9:00AM 9h 50m Boeing 777 First (P)

Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $3,323.20
Total cost for 1 passenger $3,323.20
Holy cow that's *great* deal for F.
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Old Oct 11, 13, 3:49 pm
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Originally Posted by dixon View Post


Los Angeles (LAX) to Tokyo (NRT) - Mon, Feb 17
All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. 5 Dep: 11:30AM Arr: 4:25PM 11h 55m Boeing 777 First (A)
Tue, Feb 18

Tokyo (NRT) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Tue, Feb 25
All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. 6 Dep: 5:05PM Arr: 9:50AM 9h 45m Boeing 777 First (A)

Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $3,629.60
Total cost for 1 passenger $3,629.60
Looks like UA has matched.

Business fares are also in that range on various carriers, i.e. AC, DL.
For giggles, SQ comes in at $4,100.
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Old Oct 11, 13, 3:52 pm
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Originally Posted by dixon View Post
Not sure if this has been posted, but it looks pretty consistent starting second week of January until next Oct. Fly out of LAX on mon-thru, I tried for 6-9 days stay and the fare was approx. the same. I could not find the fare on ana, but was able to find it on an OTA (orbitz) but have not actually booked. Also note, I also saw some availability on AA for about $400 less, I didn't look out to see if there was as wide open availability, but here are two examples in Feb:

Los Angeles (LAX) to Tokyo (NRT) - Mon, Feb 17
American Airlines Inc. American Airlines Inc. 169 Dep: 11:15AM Arr: 4:20PM 12h 5m Boeing 777 First (P)
Tue, Feb 18

Tokyo (NRT) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Tue, Feb 25
American Airlines Inc. American Airlines Inc. 170 Dep: 4:10PM Arr: 9:00AM 9h 50m Boeing 777 First (P)

Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $3,323.20
Total cost for 1 passenger $3,323.20

Los Angeles (LAX) to Tokyo (NRT) - Mon, Feb 17
All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. 5 Dep: 11:30AM Arr: 4:25PM 11h 55m Boeing 777 First (A)
Tue, Feb 18

Tokyo (NRT) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Tue, Feb 25
All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. 6 Dep: 5:05PM Arr: 9:50AM 9h 45m Boeing 777 First (A)

Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $3,629.60
Total cost for 1 passenger $3,629.60
For those interested, this fare has been around on and off for most of this year. It's a D-UP fare, which means it's actually a business class fare that books into first inventory (A class). It is definitely a great fare and it can be combined half-roundtrip with other fares, so you can lower the price even more if you just want to try it for the experience.

However, caveat emptor. Although I have no doubt that NH will handle things better, see this thread about AA for some pitfalls of -UP fares.

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Old Oct 11, 13, 3:53 pm
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Originally Posted by BumpMe! View Post
Looks like UA has matched.

Business fares are also in that range on various carriers, i.e. AC, DL.
For giggles, SQ comes in at $4,100.
All three fares (AA, UA, NH) have been around for a while. You can book the UA codeshares for NH flights using united.com if you're shooting for PQD. They're available for the same price, although there is less ANA inventory.

50-day advance purchase, 3 day min stay, 12M max stay. Cheapest fares are valid Monday - Thursday; weekends are $250 each way more.
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Old Oct 11, 13, 3:54 pm
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Fare 1: Carrier NH DFXG3BUP NYC to TYO (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code A
Covers JFK-NRT (First)
$2,543.00
Fare 2: Carrier NH DFXG3BUP TYO to NYC (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code A
Covers NRT-JFK (First)
$2,543.00
(YQ) $518.00
NH YQ surcharge (YQ) $6.40
US International Departure Tax (US) $17.20
US September 11th Security Fee (AY) $2.50
US Passenger Facility Charge (XF) $4.50
USDA APHIS Fee (XA) $5.00
US Immigration Fee (XY) $7.00
US Customs Fee (YC) $5.50
Japan International Passenger Facility Charge (SW) $21.10
Passenger Security Service Charge (OI) $5.20
US International Arrival Tax (US) $17.20

Subtotal per passenger $5,695.60
Number of passengers x1

TOTAL AIRFARE & TAXES $5,695.60
Changes to this ticket will incur a penalty fee.

NH F JFK-NRT-JFK (For comparison, Cathay comes in at over 28K for same dates)

WORTH NOTING: Major change/cancel fees apply to these promo fares, looks to be the following sale...

MIDWEEK FIRST CLASS PROMOTIONAL FARES A
Between AREA 1 and AREA 3 FOR ROUND TRIP FARES
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Old Oct 12, 13, 9:36 am
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Something along this line (though not as good as NH), AA has nice NYC/LAX-ICN F fare (P1X9Q4D1) with no min stay, 12M max stay, 90 days advance purchase, Mo-Th transpac. Prices at ~$3,100 a/i on aa.com but outbound requires overnight at DFW to catch the morning ICN flight. Weekends $250 more each way.
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Old Oct 12, 13, 9:42 am
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Originally Posted by MtRoot View Post
Something along this line (though not as good as NH), AA has nice NYC/LAX-ICN F fare (P1X9Q4D1) with no min stay, 12M max stay, 90 days advance purchase, Mo-Th transpac. Prices at ~$3,100 a/i on aa.com but outbound requires overnight at DFW to catch the morning ICN flight. Weekends $250 more each way.
Who, other than Uncle Sam, would want to pay for AA F?
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Old Oct 12, 13, 10:07 am
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Originally Posted by MtRoot View Post
Something along this line (though not as good as NH), AA has nice NYC/LAX-ICN F fare (P1X9Q4D1) with no min stay, 12M max stay, 90 days advance purchase, Mo-Th transpac. Prices at ~$3,100 a/i on aa.com but outbound requires overnight at DFW to catch the morning ICN flight. Weekends $250 more each way.
It looks like UA is in on this, with business class.
UA's J fare is pricing at $2,889 in March.
JFK-SFO-ICN-SFO-JFK
($2,589 departing late Feb.)

Edit:
Can also route EWR-IAH-NRT-ICN-SFO-ORD-EWR
$2,919

Last edited by BumpMe!; Oct 12, 13 at 10:31 am Reason: added NRT routing
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Old Oct 12, 13, 10:15 am
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Originally Posted by Annapurna View Post
Who, other than Uncle Sam, would want to pay for AA F?
That really depends on the alternatives now doesn't it?

My last flight in AA international F was just fine. Certainly not a CX/EK/SQ experience but then again I don't see those carriers offering too many ~$3500 fares ex-USA in the pointy end of the plane.

If the value is there, no reason not to fly AA int'l F.
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Old Oct 12, 13, 10:25 am
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Originally Posted by MtRoot View Post
Something along this line (though not as good as NH), AA has nice NYC/LAX-ICN F fare (P1X9Q4D1) with no min stay, 12M max stay, 90 days advance purchase, Mo-Th transpac. Prices at ~$3,100 a/i on aa.com but outbound requires overnight at DFW to catch the morning ICN flight. Weekends $250 more each way.
Actually it doesn't have to be. If you take LGA instead of JFK, then you can catch the early morning LGA to DFW and then on to ICN. IMO this fare is much better than the UA JFK-SFO-ICN because the AA gets you F while it is only J in UA, and the UA P fare cannot get you to F with SWUs. With that being said, they both will get you 150% RDM, with only 20 base mile difference.
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Old Oct 12, 13, 10:32 am
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Originally Posted by Annapurna View Post
Who, other than Uncle Sam, would want to pay for AA F?
Haha, I don't disagree, but having no min stay requirement is quite nice. F is actually cheaper than J for short trips.

Originally Posted by Paulakers2010 View Post
Actually it doesn't have to be. If you take LGA instead of JFK, then you can catch the early morning LGA to DFW and then on to ICN.
Hadn't checked the LGA route. Thanks!
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Old Oct 12, 13, 1:15 pm
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Originally Posted by Annapurna View Post
Who, other than Uncle Sam, would want to pay for AA F?
It all depends on the price. This 3k is a pretty reasonable range. If they allow AA codeshare on JL and CX for this fare, then I would definitely go for it!
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Old Oct 12, 13, 1:36 pm
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KE J: YYZ-HKG $3350 USD ai

Routing: YYZ-ICN-HKG

It is a very good I fare to a very competitive market(HKG). Not too hard for the folks to get to YYZ to enjoy this fare. It's still 100% MQM to DL, but no bonus miles, no bonus MQMs. How cocky DL has been.

Sample date: YYZ-HKG Nov 14-19. I can see this fare still available for March. EOS.

125% for Flying Blue.
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MINIMUM STAY NO MINIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
MAXIMUM STAY ORIGINATING AREA 1 -
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER
THAN 6 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
STOPOVERS ORIGINATING AREA 1 -
UNLIMITED STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT AT
USD 100.00/CAD 100.00 EACH
CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.

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