Good Deal Premium Fares 2012
Jan 10, 2012, 2:53 pm
#61
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: WA
Programs: AS , AA, Hilton, Hyatt, Kimpton, Hertz
Posts: 310
It's the AA fare I posted last year. Yes, you can stopover anywhere where AA does not publish an onwards F fare to the destination. I gave a great example of usage last year. Find my post through my profile. And the price would have been far better starting with AA miles. Amateurs.
Jan 10, 2012, 4:29 pm
#62
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 563
Star Alliance and SkyTeam members are having a bit of a business class sale to Scandinavia for summer travel - for outbound travel from June 15 through September 3. Decent but not great RT fares, $2757 ai LAX-CPH or $2748 ai SFO-CPH, also to OSL and HEL, probably others.
Bookable for August on the AF A380 out of LAX. 2 "free" stopovers permitted with 1 in Paris each direction.
Bookable for August on the AF A380 out of LAX. 2 "free" stopovers permitted with 1 in Paris each direction.
Jan 10, 2012, 5:40 pm
#63
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Star Alliance and SkyTeam members are having a bit of a business class sale to Scandinavia for summer travel - for outbound travel from June 15 through September 3. Decent but not great RT fares, $2757 ai LAX-CPH or $2748 ai SFO-CPH, also to OSL and HEL, probably others.
Bookable for August on the AF A380 out of LAX. 2 "free" stopovers permitted with 1 in Paris each direction.
Bookable for August on the AF A380 out of LAX. 2 "free" stopovers permitted with 1 in Paris each direction.
Jan 10, 2012, 6:10 pm
#64
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 563
The Air France fare rules specify free stopovers in Paris but the others (at least, UA, LH, DL and KLM) specify no stopovers.
Jan 10, 2012, 6:15 pm
#65
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KLM KL ZHP52US BOS to CPH
General notes
HIGH SEASON BUSINESS CLASS EXCURSION Z
NONREF FARES
From/To THE UNITED STATES APPLIES FOR ROUND TRIP FARES
Seasonal restrictions
PERMITTED 15JUN 12 THROUGH 03SEP 12 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
Flight restrictions
ORIGINATING AREA 1 -
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
AZ FLIGHTS 3000 THROUGH 3999
AZ FLIGHTS 7000 THROUGH 7999
BD FLIGHTS 3000 THROUGH 3699
LX FLIGHTS 3000 THROUGH 9999
KM FLIGHTS 2000 THROUGH 2999
KM FLIGHTS 4000 THROUGH 9999
ANY LH FLIGHT.
Advanced reservation/ticketing restrictions
RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS.
TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 72 HOURS AFTER
RESERVATIONS ARE MADE.
Minimum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN
THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
Maximum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM LAST SEGMENT MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 12
MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
Transfer restrictions
UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED
SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
Combinability
DOUBLE OPEN JAWS NOT PERMITTED.
ADD-ONS PERMITTED.
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE
COMPONENTS. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE POINT OF COMBINATION.
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS EXCEPT FOR AROUND-THE-WORLD FARES.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY ROUND TRIP FARE FOR CARRIER
KL/AF/AZ/OK/DL/AS/QX IN RULE US1B/US1P/08DL/49DL IN ANY
TARIFF.
NOTE - THE CITY PAIRS BELOW ARE CONSIDERED THE SAME POINT-
BWI-WAS FLL-MIA OAK-SFO OAK-SJC SFO-SJC LAX-ONT
LAX-BUR LAX-LGB LAX-SNA ONT-BUR ONT-LGB ONT-SNA
BUR-LGB BUR-SNA LGB-SNA NYC-EWR
Surcharges
ORIGINATING THE UNITED STATES -
IF INFANT 0-1 WITHOUT A SEAT.
FOR TICKETING ON/BEFORE 09OCT 11
THERE IS NO CHARGE.
ORIGINATING THE UNITED STATES -
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL FROM/TO/VIA AREA 2
FOR TICKETING ON/BEFORE 09OCT 11
A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 280.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE.
General notes
HIGH SEASON BUSINESS CLASS EXCURSION Z
NONREF FARES
From/To THE UNITED STATES APPLIES FOR ROUND TRIP FARES
Seasonal restrictions
PERMITTED 15JUN 12 THROUGH 03SEP 12 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
Flight restrictions
ORIGINATING AREA 1 -
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
AZ FLIGHTS 3000 THROUGH 3999
AZ FLIGHTS 7000 THROUGH 7999
BD FLIGHTS 3000 THROUGH 3699
LX FLIGHTS 3000 THROUGH 9999
KM FLIGHTS 2000 THROUGH 2999
KM FLIGHTS 4000 THROUGH 9999
ANY LH FLIGHT.
Advanced reservation/ticketing restrictions
RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS.
TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 72 HOURS AFTER
RESERVATIONS ARE MADE.
Minimum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN
THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
Maximum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM LAST SEGMENT MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 12
MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
Transfer restrictions
UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED
SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
Combinability
DOUBLE OPEN JAWS NOT PERMITTED.
ADD-ONS PERMITTED.
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE
COMPONENTS. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE POINT OF COMBINATION.
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS EXCEPT FOR AROUND-THE-WORLD FARES.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY ROUND TRIP FARE FOR CARRIER
KL/AF/AZ/OK/DL/AS/QX IN RULE US1B/US1P/08DL/49DL IN ANY
TARIFF.
NOTE - THE CITY PAIRS BELOW ARE CONSIDERED THE SAME POINT-
BWI-WAS FLL-MIA OAK-SFO OAK-SJC SFO-SJC LAX-ONT
LAX-BUR LAX-LGB LAX-SNA ONT-BUR ONT-LGB ONT-SNA
BUR-LGB BUR-SNA LGB-SNA NYC-EWR
Surcharges
ORIGINATING THE UNITED STATES -
IF INFANT 0-1 WITHOUT A SEAT.
FOR TICKETING ON/BEFORE 09OCT 11
THERE IS NO CHARGE.
ORIGINATING THE UNITED STATES -
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL FROM/TO/VIA AREA 2
FOR TICKETING ON/BEFORE 09OCT 11
A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 280.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE.
Jan 10, 2012, 6:26 pm
#67
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I see. I got the fares rules from ITA. I guess they do not show me the complete rule set. 
Jan 10, 2012, 6:27 pm
#68
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 563
This is what I am getting pulling fare rules through Expert Flyer:
KLM provides this:
STOPOVERS: STOPOVERS ARE NOT PERMITTED AT INTERMEDIATE POINTS.
UA says:
STOPOVERS : STOPOVERS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
While AF provides this:
STOPOVERS: 2 FREE STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 1 IN
EACH DIRECTION IN PAR.
Edited to add: sorry I typed too slowly!
KLM provides this:
STOPOVERS: STOPOVERS ARE NOT PERMITTED AT INTERMEDIATE POINTS.
UA says:
STOPOVERS : STOPOVERS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
While AF provides this:
STOPOVERS: 2 FREE STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 1 IN
EACH DIRECTION IN PAR.
Edited to add: sorry I typed too slowly!
Jan 10, 2012, 9:56 pm
#69
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: SFO
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 4,449
Great find, but for how long?
Star Alliance and SkyTeam members are having a bit of a business class sale to Scandinavia for summer travel - for outbound travel from June 15 through September 3. Decent but not great RT fares, $2757 ai LAX-CPH or $2748 ai SFO-CPH, also to OSL and HEL, probably others.
Bookable for August on the AF A380 out of LAX. 2 "free" stopovers permitted with 1 in Paris each direction.
Bookable for August on the AF A380 out of LAX. 2 "free" stopovers permitted with 1 in Paris each direction.
I would say that they are really good fares (better than decent in my book) for SFO-Scanadinavia, no question, especially when SFO-Scandinavia on UA with an SWU W fare (and an uncertain upgrade) runs around $2000. Thanks.
Jan 11, 2012, 12:14 pm
#70
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 563
I don't know this info, sorry. On the face of the fare it needs to be ticketed by September 3, but with a 90-day advance purchase requirement, and of course I can't imagine the sale stays on all summer.
Jan 18, 2012, 3:30 am
#71
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Oslo, Norway (OSL)
Posts: 15
LH: OSL - CAI ~€1170 (Z fare)
LH has several good offers from OSL in Z (see LH home page).
Conditions:
Conditions for this offer
Purchase by: 24.01.2012
Departure period: 01.07.2012-31.08.2012
Return period: 04.07.2012-09.09.2012
Advance Purchase Period: 7 days
Minimum stay North America: 3 days or the night from Saturday to Sunday
Minimum stay except for North America: 6 days or the night from Saturday to Sunday
Non-refundable
No changes allowed
Conditions:
Conditions for this offer
Purchase by: 24.01.2012
Departure period: 01.07.2012-31.08.2012
Return period: 04.07.2012-09.09.2012
Advance Purchase Period: 7 days
Minimum stay North America: 3 days or the night from Saturday to Sunday
Minimum stay except for North America: 6 days or the night from Saturday to Sunday
Non-refundable
No changes allowed
Jan 18, 2012, 4:14 am
#72
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 1,589
Note Lufthansa Easter specials from the USA, starting around $2500 (~25 cpm?)
http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...en&cid=1000390
They also advertise Summer specials, out of Europe, around EUR 2,000 to the US.
http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...en&cid=1000390
They also advertise Summer specials, out of Europe, around EUR 2,000 to the US.
Jan 18, 2012, 4:14 am
#73
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: STO
Programs: SK EB*G
Posts: 231
Jan 18, 2012, 5:53 am
#74
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Johannesburg, South Africa
Programs: Mucci, FB Gold, Skywards, MK Kestrel Flyer, BA Gold, M&M FF, UU Capricorne, ACCOR Gold
Posts: 676
Jan 18, 2012, 6:12 am
#75
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Netherlands
Programs: KL Platinum; A3 Gold
Posts: 28,713
As noted, the Lufthansa specials are generally available from Europe. When Lufthansa runs a sale in any European market, it typically tends to be available in several others, too.
And just to point out, too: Swiss and Austrian are also offering various similar deals from a number of European markets. Again, this is usual when a Lufthansa sale is in progress.