Consolidated "Connections / Connecting between terminals at ORD" thread
#1111
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I would certainly hope that increased acceptance by international carriers would drive adding Pre-Check and that the numbers would support a better air-side connection. And that the new International Terminal in the sky won't discourage getting anything done.
#1112
Join Date: Sep 2003
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I would have thought the fortress nature would actually be beneficial to a partner. Ethiopian flies the one flight from ORD-Africa and are *A, so connection opportunities with UA, potential for them to do the same at IAH or EgyptAir is also in *. OW doesn't have any African airlines, right?
#1113
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I would have thought the fortress nature would actually be beneficial to a partner. Ethiopian flies the one flight from ORD-Africa and are *A, so connection opportunities with UA, potential for them to do the same at IAH or EgyptAir is also in *. OW doesn't have any African airlines, right?
#1114
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I would have thought the fortress nature would actually be beneficial to a partner. Ethiopian flies the one flight from ORD-Africa and are *A, so connection opportunities with UA, potential for them to do the same at IAH or EgyptAir is also in *. OW doesn't have any African airlines, right?
#1115
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Are you suggesting that someone that would otherwise go to Chicago is going to a different city? 99.99% of people don't decide their destinations based on the airport.
Connecting traffic wouldn't have to deal with T5 security either since there is an airside bus connection.
They should do it because it will make the airport a better experience, but this is way down on the list of things that would actually influence if someone uses ORD.
Connecting traffic wouldn't have to deal with T5 security either since there is an airside bus connection.
They should do it because it will make the airport a better experience, but this is way down on the list of things that would actually influence if someone uses ORD.
As another example, if I am Amazon and choosing which city to put HQ2, whether my staff who need to get on international flights will be easily be able to get on their flights is a factor.
Finally, it makes Chicago a more viable choice of city for international conventions if convention attendees can have true precheck when they depart.
It doesn't cost much to create a dedicated Pre-check line, and Chicago should just do it at T5. So I am glad to hear of unofficial news from valued contributor ords that this may be coming.
#1116
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If I am a European or Asian company choosing among U.S. cities where to place a new U.S. office, and I have business traffic going back and forth across the Atlantic or Pacific, I would rather have my new office it in a city with an airport with true Pre-Check (e.g. DFW, Houston, Denver, LAX, SFO) than not.
As another example, if I am Amazon and choosing which city to put HQ2, whether my staff who need to get on international flights will be easily be able to get on their flights is a factor.
Finally, it makes Chicago a more viable choice of city for international conventions if convention attendees can have true precheck when they depart.
It doesn't cost much to create a dedicated Pre-check line, and Chicago should just do it at T5. So I am glad to hear of unofficial news from valued contributor ords that this may be coming.
As another example, if I am Amazon and choosing which city to put HQ2, whether my staff who need to get on international flights will be easily be able to get on their flights is a factor.
Finally, it makes Chicago a more viable choice of city for international conventions if convention attendees can have true precheck when they depart.
It doesn't cost much to create a dedicated Pre-check line, and Chicago should just do it at T5. So I am glad to hear of unofficial news from valued contributor ords that this may be coming.
#1117
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TBIT has true Precheck as of a few months ago IIRC.
#1118
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If I am a European or Asian company choosing among U.S. cities where to place a new U.S. office, and I have business traffic going back and forth across the Atlantic or Pacific, I would rather have my new office it in a city with an airport with true Pre-Check (e.g. DFW, Houston, Denver, LAX, SFO) than not.
As another example, if I am Amazon and choosing which city to put HQ2, whether my staff who need to get on international flights will be easily be able to get on their flights is a factor.
Finally, it makes Chicago a more viable choice of city for international conventions if convention attendees can have true precheck when they depart.
It doesn't cost much to create a dedicated Pre-check line, and Chicago should just do it at T5. So I am glad to hear of unofficial news from valued contributor ords that this may be coming.
As another example, if I am Amazon and choosing which city to put HQ2, whether my staff who need to get on international flights will be easily be able to get on their flights is a factor.
Finally, it makes Chicago a more viable choice of city for international conventions if convention attendees can have true precheck when they depart.
It doesn't cost much to create a dedicated Pre-check line, and Chicago should just do it at T5. So I am glad to hear of unofficial news from valued contributor ords that this may be coming.
#1119
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Yep, I am pretty sure pre-check is not even on the list of important items. The airport, the routes and access might be but wouldn't see pre-check being on the list.
#1120
Join Date: Dec 2012
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Leaving tomorrow in J on CX at 2pm, friend is also leaving in the morning on AA so we are sharing transport. Anyone know if I can use my CX BP to enter T3 and use the Flagship business lounge? AA says yes, and it makes sense since there is the T5 bus, but I wonder how the real world works. TIA!
#1121
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Were you able to get through security in T3 with a CX boarding pass? This could be a great option for using the TSA precheck lanes in T3, using the flagship lounge, and then taking the shuttle to T5. The only question is whether TSA will let you through security in T3 with a CX boarding pass.
#1122
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#1123
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Mh advice to the OP would be to allow plenty of time for the T5 shuttle as there have been reports of long lunch breaks around the 14:00 time frame.
#1124
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If I am a European or Asian company choosing among U.S. cities where to place a new U.S. office, and I have business traffic going back and forth across the Atlantic or Pacific, I would rather have my new office it in a city with an airport with true Pre-Check...
... if I am Amazon and choosing which city to put HQ2, whether my staff who need to get on international flights will be easily be able to get on their flights is a factor.
... if I am Amazon and choosing which city to put HQ2, whether my staff who need to get on international flights will be easily be able to get on their flights is a factor.
"Prime downtown real estate? Fast-track permitting? Tax abatements? Accessible housing? Good nonstop air connections? Good mass transit? Check, check, check, check, check, check... Yup, Chicago looks great... oh, wait, the ORD international terminal doesn't have true PreCheck? Well, forget it, then."
Don't be silly.
#1125
Join Date: Jul 2009
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Which have gone away....There's no breaks with the shuttle now talking with the drivers. I believer they overlapped schedules so 1-2 buses are running all time.