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nigelloring May 2, 2009 12:59 pm

Pothole rant
 
Is it just me, or are potholes worse than ever before this year? It's worse than some third-world countries I've been to.

Big Mo May 2, 2009 1:42 pm

It's not just you. Long, hard winter + budget cuts = crappy roads.

ralfp May 3, 2009 3:35 pm

When pothole "repair" is done with cool asphalt and shovels, as it's done in Chicago, it's not really helping much (except create more jobs for pothole pluggers). It's not corruption; it's job creation through infrastructure work.

The situation is bad enough that people are starting to fix their own streets.

Gargoyle May 8, 2009 9:57 pm


Originally Posted by ralfp (Post 11687957)
When pothole "repair" is done with cool asphalt and shovels, as it's done in Chicago, it's not really helping much (except create more jobs for pothole pluggers).

Yup. They throw some gunk in the hole, and an hour later, after a few cars drive over it, the hole is back almost as it was before. Useless.

I watched pothole patching in Eugene, Ore, this winter. Hot asphalt and a steam roller, in 3 or 4 minutes the road looked brand new. But Chicago follows the old Italian proverb: "he who screws up and has to do it over again is never idle".

glg May 9, 2009 4:46 am


Originally Posted by Gargoyle (Post 11719844)
Yup. They throw some gunk in the hole, and an hour later, after a few cars drive over it, the hole is back almost as it was before. Useless.

I watched pothole patching in Eugene, Ore, this winter. Hot asphalt and a steam roller, in 3 or 4 minutes the road looked brand new. But Chicago follows the old Italian proverb: "he who screws up and has to do it over again is never idle".

It's a lot warmer in Eugene in the winter then it is here.

toomanybooks May 9, 2009 7:38 am

One of the worst extended stretches I have found is a middle lane on Cicero, going south from MDW.

Must be thousands of holes, and it feels like my car will shake apart..

Sweet Willie May 9, 2009 10:22 am

also noticed that potholes this year seem to be more severe under overpasses.

For instance, Higgins/Oakton Rd under I-90 (in front of the UA building) is terrible, the cab drivers driving me to ORD drive on alternate roads now.

Gargoyle May 9, 2009 11:26 am


Originally Posted by glg (Post 11720536)
It's a lot warmer in Eugene in the winter then it is here.

True, and they get very few potholes. Still doesn't explain why their patching method is to restore the road surface to like-new, and ours is to toss some loose cold patch in the hole, such that by the next day it's almost as bad as it was prior to patching.

milepig May 11, 2009 8:29 am

The situation is actually worse after patching, since the stuff they put in the hole gets forced out by passing cars, and then accumulated in front of the hole. Now you have a hole AND a bump. Really, really sorry situation all around.

glg May 11, 2009 8:42 am


Originally Posted by Gargoyle (Post 11721654)
True, and they get very few potholes. Still doesn't explain why their patching method is to restore the road surface to like-new, and ours is to toss some loose cold patch in the hole, such that by the next day it's almost as bad as it was prior to patching.

Because hot patch doesn't adhere when the ground is below a certain temperature. That occurs a hell of a lot more often here then in Eugene.

nigelloring May 11, 2009 10:04 am


Originally Posted by Sweet Willie (Post 11721472)
the cab drivers driving me to ORD drive on alternate roads now.

Wow, that's pretty bad.

rhwbullhead May 12, 2009 10:33 pm


Originally Posted by Sweet Willie (Post 11721472)
also noticed that potholes this year seem to be more severe under overpasses.

For instance, Higgins/Oakton Rd under I-90 (in front of the UA building) is terrible, the cab drivers driving me to ORD drive on alternate roads now.

Hey, the sign says, "Repairs coming this summer." I agree that it's horrible. I've found that going eastbound, the best to do is hug the curb in the left lane as that is area least damaged.

Some other bad spots in that area:
Oakton eastbound just west of Elmhurst Road.
Rte 83 right lane from about Thorndale to I-290.

rhwbullhead May 19, 2009 2:13 am

I just drove by that minefield area on Higgins under I-90. It looks like they finally are doing the repairs. The westbound lanes have new pavement. The Eastbound lanes have the rough groved surface in preparation for the new pavement which actually makes it driveable since all the rough patches have been sucked up.

ChiFlyer May 19, 2009 5:37 pm

I got an email from the alderman's office (48th ward - essentially Edgewater neighborhood) stating that 25% of the streets in the ward would be resurfaced this summer (stimulus money mainly). That is good news - the bad news is that about 75% of the streets need to be repaved.

What I find interesting is that the catch basins this year have been particularly prone to caving in - creating huge craters in the gutters. I don't recall it this bad in previous years.

UALfromMSN May 19, 2009 7:26 pm


Originally Posted by ChiFlyer (Post 11775199)
What I find interesting is that the catch basins this year have been particularly prone to caving in - creating huge craters in the gutters. I don't recall it this bad in previous years.

I hit one of those Sunday afternoon over on North Ave under the Kennedy. Felt like I had done some serious damage to the car.


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