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CLE - Impact of other airlines (gates, routes, equipment, & etc) after UA De-Hubbing
#1561
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Cleveland, OH, USA, UA Silver, Hilton Gold
Posts: 772
Four of us are heading to Berlin the week of Memorial Day. Looking forward to trying Icelandair. A $480 r/t fare couldn't be beat!
#1562
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: CLE
Programs: UA,WN,AA,DL, B6
Posts: 4,168
So British Airways starting Nashville to London in May. Have city leadership been talking with them over the years about getting a London route. Continental stated service back in 1999. If Nashville can get the London route then Cleveland should be able to get this service.
#1563
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: CLE
Programs: UA, AA Plat Pro, DL, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 476
So British Airways starting Nashville to London in May. Have city leadership been talking with them over the years about getting a London route. Continental stated service back in 1999. If Nashville can get the London route then Cleveland should be able to get this service.
#1565
Join Date: Jul 2004
Programs: AA US
Posts: 378
I think the Cleveland Clinic hospitals and research labs in London, Abu Dhabi, and Riyahd (the latter two reachable through LHR connections) will interest someone in providing a non-stop flight within the next couple of years. This represents a good piece of new business since the CO days.
#1566
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: CLE, DCA, and 30k feet
Programs: Honors LT Diamond; United 1K; Hertz PC
Posts: 4,153
I think the Cleveland Clinic hospitals and research labs in London, Abu Dhabi, and Riyahd (the latter two reachable through LHR connections) will interest someone in providing a non-stop flight within the next couple of years. This represents a good piece of new business since the CO days.
Mayo Clinic has had a presence in Dubai for 2 decades now but you can't get anywhere across an ocean non-stop but RST (Rochester, MN)
[For the record, when I needed to get to last month Dubai, our client suggested the one-stop options CLE-BOS-DXB or CLE-TPA-DXB and their returns on B6/EK but I elected CLE-ORD-FRA-DUB on UA/LH for the *G benefits, IMO better equipment/seating (and trying to burn GPUs but that didn't quite work)]
Last edited by lincolnjkc; Oct 24, 2017 at 10:56 am Reason: Eh... confused DUB and DXB. Doesn't help that I've had flights to both fairly recently
#1567
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: JZRO
Posts: 9,169
When CLE was CO's third largest hub, it made marginal sense for CO (or perhaps even a SkyTeam partner airline) to offer (at least seasonal) service between CLE and ST hubs in Europe (e.g. Paris) or even non-ST-hub cities like London because its so popular. CO's CLE hub (especially at its height with nonstops all over the US) was a reasonable connection point outbound to or inbound from Europe, though CO never marketed it very well internationally. Now CLE is lucky to have a second tier carrier like IF or third tier like WW.
#1568
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Midwest
Programs: AAdvantage Platinum Pro, UA Premier Platinum, IHG Platinum Elite, Avis Presidents Club
Posts: 190
A few more CLE cuts from F9, but nothing serious
For those that don't know this is a YOY comparison, in which total operations for the month are listed, divided over the days in the month.
F9 CLE-LAS JUN 1.4>1.0
F9 CLE-MCO APR 2.0>1.0 MAY 1.4>1.0 JUN 1.4>1.0
F9 CLE-PHX APR 0.9>0.6 JUN 0.6>0.4
F9 CLE-RSW JUN 1.4>1.0
Also worth mentioning UA is cutting CLE-SJU for this season
(not a surprise with the aftermath of the hurricane)
UA CLE-SJU DEC 0.1>0 JAN 0.2>0 FEB 0.1>0 MAR 0.3>0
For those that don't know this is a YOY comparison, in which total operations for the month are listed, divided over the days in the month.
F9 CLE-LAS JUN 1.4>1.0
F9 CLE-MCO APR 2.0>1.0 MAY 1.4>1.0 JUN 1.4>1.0
F9 CLE-PHX APR 0.9>0.6 JUN 0.6>0.4
F9 CLE-RSW JUN 1.4>1.0
Also worth mentioning UA is cutting CLE-SJU for this season
(not a surprise with the aftermath of the hurricane)
UA CLE-SJU DEC 0.1>0 JAN 0.2>0 FEB 0.1>0 MAR 0.3>0
#1569
Join Date: Jul 2004
Programs: AA US
Posts: 378
At one point during construction, Clinic CEO Cosgrove said the Clinic was sending 50 people a day to Abu Dhabi; but that was pre-opening only. Since opening, I believe they rotate assignments of about 200 US staff and bring foreign nationals to the US for training. So the three facilities, when running, could generate maybe 3,000 trips a year? Added to CLE's current demand, it mounts up.
#1570
Join Date: Jun 2014
Programs: UA MM
Posts: 4,104
I think the Cleveland Clinic hospitals and research labs in London, Abu Dhabi, and Riyahd (the latter two reachable through LHR connections) will interest someone in providing a non-stop flight within the next couple of years. This represents a good piece of new business since the CO days.
#1571
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 742
Cleveland doesn't need to be a destination. London and other points beyond are enough. Whenever BA or Aer Lingus get some 321LRs, etc, it could happen, plus 321 in coach beats 777 10 wide & 787 9 wide.
#1572
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: CLE
Programs: UA
Posts: 288
#1575
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: CLE, DCA, and 30k feet
Programs: Honors LT Diamond; United 1K; Hertz PC
Posts: 4,153
Flying out this morning, two notable changes
1- It appears that the inline baggage processing upgrade has been 'finished', or at least, no longer need to schlep bags to from the ticket counter to TSA.
2- The Fresh Brewed Tees location barricade now has signage for something like "The Boutique" opening January 2018 -- from the imagery it looks like perfumes and the like...
1- It appears that the inline baggage processing upgrade has been 'finished', or at least, no longer need to schlep bags to from the ticket counter to TSA.
2- The Fresh Brewed Tees location barricade now has signage for something like "The Boutique" opening January 2018 -- from the imagery it looks like perfumes and the like...