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CLE - Impact of other airlines (gates, routes, equipment, & etc) after UA De-Hubbing
#1426
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: CAK/CLE
Programs: UA Plat/AA,DL Dirt/HH Diamond,Hyatt Something-ist/Hz Prez,Avis Pres Club
Posts: 674
CLE-BOS used to have at least one mainline flight per day on CO as well as ERJs. I wonder with the demand if they could stand to offer a mainline flight. Probably the number crunchers have determined with data that it wouldn't work, but if people are faced with an ERJ on United or JetBlue's service, JetBlue does look more attractive, whereas mainline UA would compare favorably.
A year ago now, as the RNC ended, UA had wacky one-off mainline flights like two packed big 737s CLE-PHL to take press etc. to the DNC. It was a taste of the good old days of being a hub.
WN offering CLE-MKE may be the end of UA keeping that route. I was surprised that of all routes, CLE-MKE would be kept through the dehubbing, but it has stayed and lasted. Heck, if you can connect at CLE flying out of MKE to one of the remaining CLE destinations like BOS, why not do so? Beats the stuffing out of connecting at ORD.
#1427
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: CLE
Programs: UA, AA Plat Pro, DL, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 477
WN offering CLE-MKE may be the end of UA keeping that route. I was surprised that of all routes, CLE-MKE would be kept through the dehubbing, but it has stayed and lasted. Heck, if you can connect at CLE flying out of MKE to one of the remaining CLE destinations like BOS, why not do so? Beats the stuffing out of connecting at ORD.
#1429
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: CLE, DCA, and 30k feet
Programs: Honors LT Diamond; United 1K; Hertz PC
Posts: 4,157
Strange...UA app says #3591 "Arrived at gate 1 minute early, Overflew Kansas City (MCI) Departue from DEN to CLE" What's the deal with this?
My one thought (and this is grasping at straws) is that perhaps the flight was going to divert to MCI for whatever reason (fuel, weather, mechanical, medical) but the situation changed and they made the decision to continue to CLE after flifo had been updated to show the MCI stop...
I have never seen that status message before though for CO/UA, though.
#1430
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: CLE
Programs: UA
Posts: 289
Indeed odd --- might be worth asking over on the UA forum for certain. "Overflew" implies that a scheduled stop that was skipped, e.g. the flight# was scheduled as DEN-MCI-CLE but for whatever reason(s) [in the old days when multiple hop routes were more common: weather at that airport, no passengers or cargo to load/unload at that stop, etc. -- much like a city bus not actually stopping at every stop on the route], however, I can't find any indications that 3591 has ever had anything to do with MCI so maybe someone fat-fingered something?
My one thought (and this is grasping at straws) is that perhaps the flight was going to divert to MCI for whatever reason (fuel, weather, mechanical, medical) but the situation changed and they made the decision to continue to CLE after flifo had been updated to show the MCI stop...
I have never seen that status message before though for CO/UA, though.
My one thought (and this is grasping at straws) is that perhaps the flight was going to divert to MCI for whatever reason (fuel, weather, mechanical, medical) but the situation changed and they made the decision to continue to CLE after flifo had been updated to show the MCI stop...
I have never seen that status message before though for CO/UA, though.
#1432
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Cleveland, OH, USA, UA Silver, Hilton Gold
Posts: 772
Some good news about passenger numbers. Year-over-year numbers are up over 230,000 through June.
http://www.clevelandairport.com/cle-...-leap-113-june
http://www.clevelandairport.com/cle-...-leap-113-june
#1433
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: CLE, DCA, and 30k feet
Programs: Honors LT Diamond; United 1K; Hertz PC
Posts: 4,157
[And if you stop by the UA club ask the agents if they know about the guy having a wedding in Scotland ;-P]
Lincoln
(Currently flying to EDI for one day to drop off paperwork for said wedding since UPS couldn't; get it there in time)
#1434
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: CLE
Programs: UA
Posts: 289
Yeah, I noticed that this morning... and in the UC there were several people troubleshooting networking issues at one of the workstations -- given the giant bundle of network cables that to looks like someone took a boltcutters to, I have to wonder if they're related. AA CS wouldn't entirely surprise me, but the space seems pretty large relative to AA's presence
[And if you stop by the UA club ask the agents if they know about the guy having a wedding in Scotland ;-P]
Lincoln
(Currently flying to EDI for one day to drop off paperwork for said wedding since UPS couldn't; get it there in time)
[And if you stop by the UA club ask the agents if they know about the guy having a wedding in Scotland ;-P]
Lincoln
(Currently flying to EDI for one day to drop off paperwork for said wedding since UPS couldn't; get it there in time)
#1435
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Florida
Programs: United 1K, Marriott Ambassador, Hilton Gold
Posts: 673
Was in the airport on Sunday and it's almost reminiscent of the hub days with how busy C looked (thanks to the multiple AA departures).
Anyone know when they plan to finish/start using their new gates? The jetbridges look brand new but still no sign of activity.
Separately - I hadn't noticed that the one food place near the UA club had gone out of business. Would be nice if something else goes in there... Right now it looks very dark/abandoned in that entire corner.
#1436
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: CLE, CAK
Programs: UA Milage Plus
Posts: 214
I agree AA CS, a small fast food joint, or even a play area for kids like ORD has would be great.
Was in the airport on Sunday and it's almost reminiscent of the hub days with how busy C looked (thanks to the multiple AA departures).
Anyone know when they plan to finish/start using their new gates? The jetbridges look brand new but still no sign of activity.
Separately - I hadn't noticed that the one food place near the UA club had gone out of business. Would be nice if something else goes in there... Right now it looks very dark/abandoned in that entire corner.
Was in the airport on Sunday and it's almost reminiscent of the hub days with how busy C looked (thanks to the multiple AA departures).
Anyone know when they plan to finish/start using their new gates? The jetbridges look brand new but still no sign of activity.
Separately - I hadn't noticed that the one food place near the UA club had gone out of business. Would be nice if something else goes in there... Right now it looks very dark/abandoned in that entire corner.
#1437
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Florida
Programs: United 1K, Marriott Ambassador, Hilton Gold
Posts: 673
No there was something else there. It's that corner directly across from the entrance to the UC. I think it might have been called Green Leaves or something like that?
I just hadn't noticed it went out of business until this trip because it was tucked in the corner. It was near that area with all of the tables (cafeteria setup) if that helps?
I just hadn't noticed it went out of business until this trip because it was tucked in the corner. It was near that area with all of the tables (cafeteria setup) if that helps?
#1438
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Cleveland, OH, USA, UA Silver, Hilton Gold
Posts: 772
I agree AA CS, a small fast food joint, or even a play area for kids like ORD has would be great.
Was in the airport on Sunday and it's almost reminiscent of the hub days with how busy C looked (thanks to the multiple AA departures).
Anyone know when they plan to finish/start using their new gates? The jetbridges look brand new but still no sign of activity.
Separately - I hadn't noticed that the one food place near the UA club had gone out of business. Would be nice if something else goes in there... Right now it looks very dark/abandoned in that entire corner.
Was in the airport on Sunday and it's almost reminiscent of the hub days with how busy C looked (thanks to the multiple AA departures).
Anyone know when they plan to finish/start using their new gates? The jetbridges look brand new but still no sign of activity.
Separately - I hadn't noticed that the one food place near the UA club had gone out of business. Would be nice if something else goes in there... Right now it looks very dark/abandoned in that entire corner.
Not sure what the plans are for the empty concession area across from the United Club.
#1439
Join Date: Jul 2004
Programs: AA US
Posts: 378
If they "bump out" the wall a bit, would there be room enough for an Admirals Club?