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CLE - Impact of other airlines (gates, routes, equipment, & etc) after UA De-Hubbing

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Old Jul 31, 16, 10:43 am
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For what it's worth Volaris has applied to fly ZIH-CLE.... I don't ever see this working out beyond a Saturday only service or say maybe twice a week if it even materializes but who knows.
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Old Jul 31, 16, 2:29 pm
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Originally Posted by 737MAX View Post
For what it's worth Volaris has applied to fly ZIH-CLE.... I don't ever see this working out beyond a Saturday only service or say maybe twice a week if it even materializes but who knows.
It's probably Volaris operating a charter for one of those vacation companies as opposed to regularly scheduled service.
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Old Jul 31, 16, 4:16 pm
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Originally Posted by rolltribe View Post
It's probably Volaris operating a charter for one of those vacation companies as opposed to regularly scheduled service.
I don't know... from the regulatory filing (http://www.regulations.gov/document?...2016-0135-0001)

Volaris applauds the new agreement, and is pleased that it will be able to enter new US-Mexico markets expeditiously and as dictated by market forces. Volaris is proud to have grown its presence in the US-Mexico market since it first launched service in 2009, and is pleased to note that it currently serves 48 U.S.-Mexico city pairs.
The route authority requested is provided for under the Agreement, which was signed by the two governments on December 18, 2015. Pursuant to Annex I, Section A.2 of the Agreement, Volaris requests authority to provide foreign scheduled transportation of persons, property, and mail on the following routing:
a. From a point or points in Mexico to a point or points in the United States;
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c. From Acapulco, Chihuahua, Guadalajara, Guaymas, Hermosillo, Huatulco, La Paz, Loreto, Manzanillo, Mazatlan, Mexico City, Toluca, Monterrey, Puerto Escondido, Puerto Vallarta, San Jose del Cabo, and lxtapa/ Zihuatanejo to Cleveland, Detroit, Philadelphia, Washington, and Baltimore and beyond to Canada;
[...]
Volaris also requests authority to perform charter service on the routings authorized under Annex II of the Agreement, in accordance with Part 212 of the DOT Regulations.
All emphasis mine; it certainly reads like they're requesting authority for "normal" scheduled service on the routes -- whether there's the market there to support it and whether with authority granted the route is likely to actually happen or survive may be a different story, however...
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Old Aug 1, 16, 10:52 am
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Originally Posted by lincolnjkc View Post
I don't know... from the regulatory filing (http://www.regulations.gov/document?...2016-0135-0001)





All emphasis mine; it certainly reads like they're requesting authority for "normal" scheduled service on the routes -- whether there's the market there to support it and whether with authority granted the route is likely to actually happen or survive may be a different story, however...
This is permissive authority; Volaris need not operate any specific route. The huge blanket filing lets them keep their real intentions secret and avoid competitive preemption.
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Old Aug 1, 16, 12:55 pm
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Here's a nice promotion for Cleveland in USA Today:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel...ning/87662838/
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Old Aug 3, 16, 8:27 am
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AS new service

I wonder if Alaska Airlines has CLE on their radar. They just announced new service between IND and SEA - this is their first service to Seattle. CLE does already have seasonal service via Frontier. Perhaps AS is seeing if Frontier sticks it out before they even consider it.
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Old Aug 5, 16, 7:11 am
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Saw a Delta jet (727??) parked at Burke with door open and steps in place. Charter for the Twins? I don't think I've seen either a commercial jet or a mainline sized jet at Burke.

(Since we've been placed in Midwest, I'm thinking this is appropriate for this wandering thread.)
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Old Aug 5, 16, 8:07 am
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Originally Posted by manneca View Post
Saw a Delta jet (727??) parked at Burke with door open and steps in place. Charter for the Twins? I don't think I've seen either a commercial jet or a mainline sized jet at Burke.

(Since we've been placed in Midwest, I'm thinking this is appropriate for this wandering thread.)
Yep. it's a 757. Looks like they flew from Burke to Tampa last night.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL8887
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Old Aug 5, 16, 8:11 am
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Originally Posted by manneca View Post
Saw a Delta jet (727??) parked at Burke with door open and steps in place. Charter for the Twins? I don't think I've seen either a commercial jet or a mainline sized jet at Burke.

(Since we've been placed in Midwest, I'm thinking this is appropriate for this wandering thread.)
Continental used to park a 737 over there during the airshow a few years back...it's rare but it has happened from time to time.
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Old Aug 5, 16, 8:54 am
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WN released their spring break schedule yesterday, Saturday service to MCO and RSW didn't return. LAS and PHX go double daily Sun-Fri, Saturday LAS is once daily while PHX goes 3x daily. No surprise on RSW/MCO being cut with DL, UA, F9, NK, WN at CAK and G4 serving those routes between CLE and CAK.
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Old Aug 5, 16, 10:25 am
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How can I find out the effective dates of UA's CLE-RSW nonstop service this winter?
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Old Aug 5, 16, 10:46 am
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Originally Posted by paule123 View Post
How can I find out the effective dates of UA's CLE-RSW nonstop service this winter?
I just searched through their app, looks like it runs 12/16-4/3 daily.
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Old Aug 5, 16, 11:17 am
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Originally Posted by lincolnjkc View Post
Continental used to park a 737 over there during the airshow a few years back...it's rare but it has happened from time to time.
The last couple of years, United has a 737 and ERJ-145 on display during the airshow. It's particularly neat to see the engines up close, as they take the outer shell apart so you can see inside!
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Old Aug 5, 16, 11:23 am
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Originally Posted by plinth857 View Post
The last couple of years, United has a 737 and ERJ-145 on display during the airshow. It's particularly neat to see the engines up close, as they take the outer shell apart so you can see inside!
Not to wander too far off topic, but if you happen to have the chance to stand inside an engine ever I have to highly recommend it... Gives you a whole new perspective on size.



(I still love the client that "made me" do that to their airplane).

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Old Aug 5, 16, 2:12 pm
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Originally Posted by lincolnjkc View Post
Continental used to park a 737 over there during the airshow a few years back...it's rare but it has happened from time to time.
Trump's plane landed at Burke - or at least that's what this video looked like. I've never seen full size jets land there but it sounds like they can and do!

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2...p-vs-ted-cruz/
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