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CLE - Impact of other airlines (gates, routes, equipment, & etc) after UA De-Hubbing

Old Feb 10, 23, 11:49 pm
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Last year UA added PHX and LAS at various times not back while LAS is served by Frontier and Spirit and Southwest on weekends PHX has only Frontier and Southwest on Weekends AA no longer operates a direct there is definitely a opportunity here for UA.
Southwest only has 11 flights down almost by half pre pandemic.
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Old Feb 14, 23, 8:36 am
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So glad this thread is no longer in its original forum, a lamentable wasteland of banality.

RNE, Just saying.
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Old Feb 27, 23, 7:58 am
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Upon returning to the CLE yesterday afternoon, only one of the four moving walkways between the terminal and the "Smart" parking garage were operational (one of them has had the maintenance barrier on it for at least a year if not more). Furthermore, there are a plethora of spots in the garage that are blocked off. I'm curious if they are choosing not to invest very many resources to repair this if replacement/refurbishment is in the works as part of the Master Plan.
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Old Feb 27, 23, 10:55 am
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Originally Posted by plinth857 View Post
Upon returning to the CLE yesterday afternoon, only one of the four moving walkways between the terminal and the "Smart" parking garage were operational (one of them has had the maintenance barrier on it for at least a year if not more). Furthermore, there are a plethora of spots in the garage that are blocked off. I'm curious if they are choosing not to invest very many resources to repair this if replacement/refurbishment is in the works as part of the Master Plan.
Probably is the master plan.

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Old Feb 27, 23, 3:28 pm
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Originally Posted by DELee View Post
Probably is the master plan.

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"We almost always almost win"
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Old Feb 27, 23, 3:57 pm
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Originally Posted by plinth857 View Post
Upon returning to the CLE yesterday afternoon, only one of the four moving walkways between the terminal and the "Smart" parking garage were operational (one of them has had the maintenance barrier on it for at least a year if not more). Furthermore, there are a plethora of spots in the garage that are blocked off. I'm curious if they are choosing not to invest very many resources to repair this if replacement/refurbishment is in the works as part of the Master Plan.
Given that the master plan is probably at best a decade before meaningful implementation I doubt that the two are directly related... save for perhaps one getting more of the airports attention.

In reality there's probably a bit of apathy combined with a bit of supply chain issues (I have a nearly $200m new-build building that is essentially "finished" but the move in is being delayed indefinitely, in part, due to the availability of certain elevator parts)... For the blocked off spaces they seem to be moving slightly and I wonder if some of it may be a need for more favorable/stable weather conditions.

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It's like the Browns fans' latest slogan:

"We almost always almost win"
I love many things about Cleveland -- the arts, the culture, the cost of living, the lack of traffic, the fact that we have all of the major sports teams represented. I don't actually care about the sports but that's another nice thing about living here: If any one asks me what I think about the Brovaliadns I can reliably get away with saying "Eh. There's always next year" and no one knows I haven't watched a game in over a decade.

I still need to get me some "Cleveland: Est semper proximus annus" T-Shirts printed up
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Old Feb 28, 23, 5:46 am
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Originally Posted by lincolnjkc View Post
Given that the master plan is probably at best a decade before meaningful implementation I doubt that the two are directly related... save for perhaps one getting more of the airports attention.

In reality there's probably a bit of apathy combined with a bit of supply chain issues (I have a nearly $200m new-build building that is essentially "finished" but the move in is being delayed indefinitely, in part, due to the availability of certain elevator parts)... For the blocked off spaces they seem to be moving slightly and I wonder if some of it may be a need for more favorable/stable weather conditions.



I love many things about Cleveland -- the arts, the culture, the cost of living, the lack of traffic, the fact that we have all of the major sports teams represented. I don't actually care about the sports but that's another nice thing about living here: If any one asks me what I think about the Brovaliadns I can reliably get away with saying "Eh. There's always next year" and no one knows I haven't watched a game in over a decade.

I still need to get me some "Cleveland: Est semper proximus annus" T-Shirts printed up
I would purchase one of those shirts and enjoy explaining the Latin to everyone who asks!

Also, despite all those issues with the garage, the only lament I have about them is just making parking more limited - CLE often runs out of parking for the airport these days! At least visitors to the city/airport don't see the garage much (if at all) and it is mainly for local benefit. Personally, I would love to be able to take the train all the way home!
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Old Feb 28, 23, 2:05 pm
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Originally Posted by plinth857 View Post
I would purchase one of those shirts and enjoy explaining the Latin to everyone who asks!

Also, despite all those issues with the garage, the only lament I have about them is just making parking more limited - CLE often runs out of parking for the airport these days! At least visitors to the city/airport don't see the garage much (if at all) and it is mainly for local benefit. Personally, I would love to be able to take the train all the way home!
Yeah, ever since the long term parking garage was torn down parking has been an inconvenient nightmare. After 3 trips in a row of trying to park on airport and failing, I've just given up generally and use ParkPlace/FastPark.

Agree with the appeal of taking the train all the way to the airport... Having our second home (wife's primary residence) in DC and being completely carless on that side of the world it's wonderful... If you have a reliable mass transit system with a wide enough network. There our nearest Metro station is less than a block away. Here I'm within a 1-2 miles of Cedar-University and Little Italy -- just far enough to be impractical to walk with any kind of luggage most of the year, and downright dangerous parts of the year -- and I've heard enough horror stories about the Red line not running/being replaced by busses/.... that it's not really worth the gamble. Would be lovely if it worked. On the flip side doing IAD to our NoMA/Union Station apartment is well over an hour on the train (DCA is probably about 40ish minutes) -- but not actually that much slower than a car.
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Old Mar 2, 23, 7:29 am
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Originally Posted by lincolnjkc View Post
Yeah, ever since the long term parking garage was torn down parking has been an inconvenient nightmare. After 3 trips in a row of trying to park on airport and failing, I've just given up generally and use ParkPlace/FastPark.

Agree with the appeal of taking the train all the way to the airport... Having our second home (wife's primary residence) in DC and being completely carless on that side of the world it's wonderful... If you have a reliable mass transit system with a wide enough network. There our nearest Metro station is less than a block away. Here I'm within a 1-2 miles of Cedar-University and Little Italy -- just far enough to be impractical to walk with any kind of luggage most of the year, and downright dangerous parts of the year -- and I've heard enough horror stories about the Red line not running/being replaced by busses/.... that it's not really worth the gamble. Would be lovely if it worked. On the flip side doing IAD to our NoMA/Union Station apartment is well over an hour on the train (DCA is probably about 40ish minutes) -- but not actually that much slower than a car.
I've got a friend in Lakewood and he is a little more than a mile from the W 117th station. You're technically not supposed to park there long term, but he's parked there and taken the train to Hopkins for shorter trips before. I wonder if he calls the transit police to get permission for that. I'm all for Transit Oriented Development. I've toyed with the idea of getting a place in the future that's very near or connected to a Red Line Station (INTRO comes to mind, but it's a bit pricy!).
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Old Mar 2, 23, 7:40 pm
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More likely, "Fly to London and take a Wizz." They fly to a couple of London's secondary airports Gatwick and Luton.

Austin has 2 airlines with nonstop flights to London .
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Old Mar 2, 23, 11:41 pm
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Austin has 2 airlines with nonstop flights to London .
How does that help CLE?

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Old Mar 14, 23, 1:57 pm
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Originally Posted by plinth857 View Post
I've got a friend in Lakewood and he is a little more than a mile from the W 117th station. You're technically not supposed to park there long term, but he's parked there and taken the train to Hopkins for shorter trips before. I wonder if he calls the transit police to get permission for that. I'm all for Transit Oriented Development. I've toyed with the idea of getting a place in the future that's very near or connected to a Red Line Station (INTRO comes to mind, but it's a bit pricy!).
I park at brookpark all the time and take the 3 minute train in (every 15 minutes, in the past was every 12 or 10). The area for "7 day" parking is massive and in the 3-4 years I've been doing this never seen it over 5-10% capacity, at the beginning it was like 40 marked spots, but since they have put signs on the lightpoles indicating 100s of more spots are fare game. I've only ever seen 1 sticker on a really old rusty van with a flat tire, and the sticker was dated 5 days previous, I haven't left my car there more than a week but I imagine its just the same as RTA 'fare enforcement.' 0 tickets issued just for fare enforcement in 2022 I think I read, 16 were issued in conjunction with another violation ( I would guess public intox or loitering, etc). If your not on a time-crunch and out of walking with luggage range, why not take an uber to a redline station on the east side (or another park n'ride)... The Brown parking lot is $14 a day and has a shuttle every 15 minutes too, not much different than the train at 15 minute intervals, and on a week trip, $98 vs $5.
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Old Mar 18, 23, 12:37 pm
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Has anyone actually booked a trip on Aer Lingus? I'm looking at some decent fares to the UK around Thanksgiving. Start of service is only about 2 months away. I wonder how the bookings look. Also wonder which gate the flights will use since there is US pre-clearance in DUB so passengers don't have to endure the inadequate FIS facilities at CLE.
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Old Mar 19, 23, 10:03 am
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Has anyone actually booked a trip on Aer Lingus? I'm looking at some decent fares to the UK around Thanksgiving. Start of service is only about 2 months away. I wonder how the bookings look. Also wonder which gate the flights will use since there is US pre-clearance in DUB so passengers don't have to endure the inadequate FIS facilities at CLE.
No one wants this to succeed more than me, and three factors will help:
  1. There are lots of locals who either are of Irish descent (or believe they are).
  2. Ireland is a popular destination that has English speakers (sort of), rather than those "scary" countries that don't speak it.
  3. The subsidies EI receives.
However EI faces headwinds (pun intended):
  1. Fear or distrust of places outside good ol' America. "There's so much to see in this country," is a common refrain I hear, particularly from my in-laws who worry that I'm risking their daughter's life by "dragging" her to "risky" places like the Netherlands, France or Italy for crying out loud. (Not making this up.)
  2. Even those unafraid often don't "get" that they can fly Ireland's airline onward to places other than Ireland.
  3. And those who do get it may prefer a U.S. East Coast airport connection rather than one at DUB.

RNE, not expecting many FlyerTalkers to raise their hands to your question, despite our travel enthusiasm far exceeding that of the average Joe strolling down Euclid Ave.
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Old Mar 19, 23, 1:39 pm
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Has anyone actually booked a trip on Aer Lingus? I'm looking at some decent fares to the UK around Thanksgiving. Start of service is only about 2 months away. I wonder how the bookings look. Also wonder which gate the flights will use since there is US pre-clearance in DUB so passengers don't have to endure the inadequate FIS facilities at CLE.
My son and D-I-L have booked a trip on EI out of Cleveland.
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