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CLE - Impact of other airlines (gates, routes, equipment, & etc) after UA De-Hubbing
#2746
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: CLE
Programs: UA,WN,AA,DL, B6
Posts: 4,163
British Airways PIT-LHR starts first week of June seeing posts on Facebook. Just wounding have we even talked with them about starting service here. It’s been 23 years since CO started CLE-LGW.
Seasonal demand would be strong consisting of.
Business travelers going to Europe
local tourists going to London
Those connecting at LHR
Those coming here to use our world class medical facilities
Bringing tourists to visit NE Ohio
Many other similar size or smaller cities have service to Europe.
Seasonal demand would be strong consisting of.
Business travelers going to Europe
local tourists going to London
Those connecting at LHR
Those coming here to use our world class medical facilities
Bringing tourists to visit NE Ohio
Many other similar size or smaller cities have service to Europe.
#2747
Join Date: Jun 2014
Programs: UA MM
Posts: 4,066
British Airways PIT-LHR starts first week of June seeing posts on Facebook. Just wounding have we even talked with them about starting service here. It’s been 23 years since CO started CLE-LGW.
Seasonal demand would be strong consisting of.
Business travelers going to Europe
local tourists going to London
Those connecting at LHR
Those coming here to use our world class medical facilities
Bringing tourists to visit NE Ohio
Many other similar size or smaller cities have service to Europe.
Seasonal demand would be strong consisting of.
Business travelers going to Europe
local tourists going to London
Those connecting at LHR
Those coming here to use our world class medical facilities
Bringing tourists to visit NE Ohio
Many other similar size or smaller cities have service to Europe.
#2748
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: CLE
Programs: UA:1K 0.81M
Posts: 133
https://www.cleveland.com/business/2...travelers.html
At 0.73M miles on UA, I'd prefer to not take OW, but if UA needs to keep a differentiator against the encroaching AA, then maybe a *A option would be nice. but doubtful given the paring back of non-hub UA traffic out of CLE
#2749
Join Date: Jun 2014
Programs: UA MM
Posts: 4,066
There's an awful lot of AA gates that I walk past in C on my way to the end of the banjo.
https://www.cleveland.com/business/2...travelers.html
At 0.73M miles on UA, I'd prefer to not take OW, but if UA needs to keep a differentiator against the encroaching AA, then maybe a *A option would be nice. but doubtful given the paring back of non-hub UA traffic out of CLE
https://www.cleveland.com/business/2...travelers.html
At 0.73M miles on UA, I'd prefer to not take OW, but if UA needs to keep a differentiator against the encroaching AA, then maybe a *A option would be nice. but doubtful given the paring back of non-hub UA traffic out of CLE
By contrast, UA still flies to something like eight or nine destinations from CLE in addition to their own hubs.
#2750
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: CLE, DCA, and 30k feet
Programs: Honors LT Diamond; United 1K; Hertz PC
Posts: 4,132
There's an awful lot of AA gates that I walk past in C on my way to the end of the banjo.
https://www.cleveland.com/business/2...travelers.html
At 0.73M miles on UA, I'd prefer to not take OW, but if UA needs to keep a differentiator against the encroaching AA, then maybe a *A option would be nice. but doubtful given the paring back of non-hub UA traffic out of CLE
https://www.cleveland.com/business/2...travelers.html
At 0.73M miles on UA, I'd prefer to not take OW, but if UA needs to keep a differentiator against the encroaching AA, then maybe a *A option would be nice. but doubtful given the paring back of non-hub UA traffic out of CLE
Service makes sense only if it's profitable -- and more profitable than other uses of the resources -- either individually, or as part of the larger route network. In UA's (or LH's) case CLE-LON doesn't really connect to feed on either end so would be almost entirely dependent on O/D traffic. CLE-FRA might stand a better chance but as I've noted before there's the issue of relative demand and profitability
#2751
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: JZRO
Posts: 9,169
Spit my cornflakes out reading that knee-slapper.
Spot on. Northeast Ohioans have the dubious distinction of showing a blinkered disregard for nonstop service to Europe. Indeed, by a show of "likes" how many of you availed yourselves of the only nonstop TATL in the last 10 years, that of FI and WW?
RNE, expecting none.
Spot on. Northeast Ohioans have the dubious distinction of showing a blinkered disregard for nonstop service to Europe. Indeed, by a show of "likes" how many of you availed yourselves of the only nonstop TATL in the last 10 years, that of FI and WW?
RNE, expecting none.
#2752
Join Date: Jun 2014
Programs: UA MM
Posts: 4,066
Spit my cornflakes out reading that knee-slapper.
Spot on. Northeast Ohioans have the dubious distinction of showing a blinkered disregard for nonstop service to Europe. Indeed, by a show of "likes" how many of you availed yourselves of the only nonstop TATL in the last 10 years, that of FI and WW?
RNE, expecting none.
Spot on. Northeast Ohioans have the dubious distinction of showing a blinkered disregard for nonstop service to Europe. Indeed, by a show of "likes" how many of you availed yourselves of the only nonstop TATL in the last 10 years, that of FI and WW?
RNE, expecting none.
#2753
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: CLE
Programs: UA, AA Plat Pro, DL, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 476
#2755
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: CLE
Programs: UA Platinum, Starbucks Gold, PF Chang's Warrior, Wine Century 100
Posts: 1,102
#2756
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: CLE/ORD/RSW
Programs: UA Plat, Marriot Titanium, WN A-List, National Exec
Posts: 205
Honestly I think seats 7C and 7D on the E175 are the best econ seats in the UA fleet.
#2757
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: CLE
Programs: UA,WN,AA,DL, B6
Posts: 4,163
So the airport hotel is closing city wants to add parking. Waste of prime land. What’s the future of concourse D sitting idle UA paying rent. Master plan needs clarified what they are doing. A new hotel needs to be added.
#2758
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: CLE, DCA, and 30k feet
Programs: Honors LT Diamond; United 1K; Hertz PC
Posts: 4,132
No; one doesn't. Aside from being plenty of consumable rooms available in close proximity (in newer properties without the life safety issues that seem like they may be present reading between the lines of some of the court filings) it was discussed during the master planning process that the utility of an on-airport hotel at a non-hub airport is very liminted -- people don't go to an airport to stay at its hotel, they go to an airport for a specific destination which likely has a closer hotel. D, as also discussed in this thread during the master planning, is functionally obsolete and has no place in the future airport design.
#2759
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: CLE/ORD/RSW
Programs: UA Plat, Marriot Titanium, WN A-List, National Exec
Posts: 205
https://www.cleveland.com/business/2...rking-lot.html
I think this makes sense. I can't imagine many O&D travelers wanting to stay at the airport hotel, especially when it still requires a shuttle to get to the terminal. There are plenty of other close-by hotels for crew and travelers to stay at with shuttle service. I'd rather see more parking in the short-term.
I think this makes sense. I can't imagine many O&D travelers wanting to stay at the airport hotel, especially when it still requires a shuttle to get to the terminal. There are plenty of other close-by hotels for crew and travelers to stay at with shuttle service. I'd rather see more parking in the short-term.
#2760
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: JZRO
Posts: 9,169
Anybody who might stay at the hotels on or around Snow Road, would likely stay at an airport hotel. Unfortunately, the Sheraton Hotel is not that. As alluded to, it's just another "nearby" hotel with shuttle service. However, building a "real" airport hotel (connected to the airport via a moving walkway) would make sense. Like I said, if the offsite hotels fill rooms, so too would an airport hotel -- a true one.