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OZFLYER86 Aug 16, 2020 12:06 am

Dubai doing ok
 

https://skift.com/2020/08/11/our-col...ource=hs_email

so does this mean emirates is doing ok as well ?

iFlyMoreThanYou Aug 16, 2020 1:29 am

Yes .

iruntings Aug 17, 2020 3:02 am

got a few friends living over in Dubai atm as midwives, judging by their Instagram pages Dubai's party scene is picking up again

csdf Aug 23, 2020 11:57 pm


Originally Posted by iruntings (Post 32609337)
got a few friends living over in Dubai atm as midwives, judging by their Instagram pages Dubai's party scene is picking up again

...as are the number of cases.

OZFLYER86 Aug 24, 2020 12:30 am


Originally Posted by csdf (Post 32625459)
...as are the number of cases.

cases don't mean deaths. There's no correlation.

It's all about age & health status.

csdf Aug 24, 2020 1:16 am

There is a correlation. You can't die from coronavirus unless you catch it.

IAN-UK Aug 24, 2020 1:29 am


Originally Posted by OZFLYER86 (Post 32625476)
cases don't mean deaths. There's no correlation.



Death is always a possible outcome for those contracting C-19. There's your correlation.

There's a raft of other outcomes involving complications of varying degrees of misery and duration.

OZFLYER86 Aug 24, 2020 3:11 am


Originally Posted by csdf (Post 32625525)
There is a correlation. You can't die from coronavirus unless you catch it.

not really. You could have a million cases in young healthy people & no deaths.

or you could have 1 case in a 90 yo who dies.

Sweden seems to have taken the correct path.

csdf Aug 24, 2020 5:43 am

Yes really. Point me to someone who died of covid19 without catching SARS-COV-2. I would love to hear about this miracle of statistical impossibility.

OZFLYER86 Aug 24, 2020 6:11 am


Originally Posted by csdf (Post 32625769)
Yes really. Point me to someone who died of covid19 without catching SARS-COV-2. I would love to hear about this miracle of statistical impossibility.

Seems you don't get it. Re read above.

csdf Aug 24, 2020 10:50 pm

You know, words have meaning. The term "correlation" has a meaning that is very well defined. You said "cases don't mean deaths. There's no correlation.". This is obviously false, as we can see by looking for a time before there were any cases and seeing that, lo, there were also no deaths.

What I think you're trying to say is that you think covid19 infections and deaths are not linearly correlated. That is true, but I don't think anyone ever has ever claimed that they were. What is is however true is that covid19 infections and deaths are positively correlated. Which means that deaths tend to go up when cases go up, and go down when cases go down. The amount of correlation varies for all sorts of factors (demographics, medical care etc).

IAN-UK Aug 25, 2020 12:00 am


Originally Posted by OZFLYER86 (Post 32625617)
not really. You could have a million cases in young healthy people & no deaths.

or you could have 1 case in a 90 yo who dies.

Not wishing to tarnish this comfortable, simplistic world view, but the young & fit are certainly not immune to serious COVID complications, and death.



The silliness of this type of reasoning is that it ignores the inevitable transmission among the young & fit ...... and thence to young & not-so-fit, and to the not so young. The consequence is a new spike in infections, and some weeks' later, in deaths.

IAN-UK Aug 25, 2020 12:07 am


Originally Posted by OZFLYER86 (Post 32625617)
not really. You could have a million cases in young healthy people & no deaths.

... and yet:

(https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/29/s...-athletes.html)
"Another complication that Galiatsatos considered particularly concerning to athletes, and one that experts were still trying to wrap their heads around, was the high incidence of blood clots that doctors were seeing in coronavirus patients."

mecabq Sep 26, 2020 12:56 am


Originally Posted by csdf (Post 32627847)
You know, words have meaning. The term "correlation" has a meaning that is very well defined...

Indeed it does.


Originally Posted by csdf (Post 32627847)
What I think you're trying to say is that you think covid19 infections and deaths are not linearly correlated.

Sorry to be pedantic, but the definition of "correlation" means a linear relationship.

IAN-UK Sep 26, 2020 2:24 am


Originally Posted by mecabq (Post 32701501)



Sorry to be pedantic, but the definition of "correlation" means a linear relationship.

No to out-pedant a pedant, but it's always dangerous to be categorical about such things :D.

Correlation in its widest sense simply implies an association.

And while in statistics the definition of the term certainly focuses almost exclusively on linear relationships, it did not prevent Spearman from developing a rank correlation coefficient to bring non-linear associations into the fold.


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