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Travel restrictions and cancelled flights - Israel

Old Mar 7, 20, 12:26 am
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Travel restrictions and cancelled flights - Israel

Israel seems to have taken the most stringent measures on travel - barring entry to many foreign pax (unless they prove they can self-isolate for two weeks...) and placing almost 100,000 Israelis into self-quarantine, based mostly on past travel.

Unsurprisingly, LH, OS, LX have cancelled all flights - now AZ and IB as well - seems to be through to the end of March. Other carriers have cut and reduced routes.

There's a lot of talk about restrictions being extended to the US as well (ie not allowing US residents to enter and requiring Israeli travelers to self-quarantine after visiting the US), but economic and political repercussions have held that at bay for the moment...
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Old Mar 7, 20, 1:54 am
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Israel considering ban on US visitors to Israel:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel...-back-from-us/
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Old Mar 9, 20, 1:26 pm
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Now all arrivals to Israel will be required to go into 14-day quarantine, regardless of origin of travel. Non-citizens/residents will need to prove the ability to self-quarantine. This will generally shut down tourism for at least the next two weeks: https://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/...-and-41-620347

Ministry of Health webpage is not yet updated, but see here shortly:
https://www.health.gov.il/English/To...s/default.aspx

Same with the US Embassy webpage:
https://il.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/
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Old Mar 9, 20, 2:00 pm
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Israel is closing its doors:

Israel says anyone entering the country must self-quarantine for 14 days

From CNN’s Oren Liebermann
Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has announced that anyone entering the country from abroad —Israeli citizens and foreign nationals alike — must self-quarantine for 14 days.

Those foreign nationals who are unable to demonstrate to Israeli border authorities that they will be able to self-quarantine for two weeks will not be allowed to enter the country.
“This is a difficult decision, but it is necessary to protect public health — and the public health comes before everything,” Netanyahu said in a video statement on Monday. “This decision will be in effect for two weeks; at the same time, we are making decisions in order to protect the economy of Israel,” he added.
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Old Mar 9, 20, 3:22 pm
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Israel is closing its doors:

Israel says anyone entering the country must self-quarantine for 14 days

CNN
...and for a bit more precision:
„Government officials said the order would come into force immediately for Israelis returning to the country. From Thursday, any non-Israelis seeking to enter the country will have to prove they have the means to self-quarantine, the officials said.“
Reuters
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Why would any foreigner come to Israel and subject themselves to this quarantine? I say everyone will just cancel their trips and Israeli tourism loses out big time.
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Old Mar 11, 20, 12:54 pm
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Why would any foreigner come to Israel and subject themselves to this quarantine? I say everyone will just cancel their trips and Israeli tourism loses out big time.
Would it be any better letting everyone in and let them run amock all over and end up that a bunch had Corona and now 1000s if not 10s of 1000s of Israelis get it too. They probably would want Israelis to stay where they are but know they cant stop them from coming home and many are in Countrys being hit hard and w/o good medical

I think they made the best choice better that you lose some $$$ then Lives
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Old Mar 11, 20, 1:45 pm
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Would it be any better letting everyone in and let them run amock all over and end up that a bunch had Corona and now 1000s if not 10s of 1000s of Israelis get it too. They probably would want Israelis to stay where they are but know they cant stop them from coming home and many are in Countrys being hit hard and w/o good medical

I think they made the best choice better that you lose some $$$ then Lives
I can see their logic behind this in attempting to stem its spread and I'm not saying if they're right or wrong, nor will the rules change based on my opinion. But like I said in another thread, this is effectively a ban on tourists and will decimate tourism and related businesses.

Of course it's better to "lose some $$$ then Lives", even 1 life lost, G-d forbid, is too many. However, there is no way this will only cause a loss of "some $$$", this is going to cause a HUGE loss of a whole lot of money and will kill the livelihood of loads of businesses large and small, many of whom I know personally. That is not something to take lightly either, all for a sickness which in all likelihood is nothing worse than the flu, if that.

And the 2 schools of people who are arguing if this is way worse than flu against those (like me) who feel they are way overreacting will just have to agree to disagree. I prefer not to get into that argument here .
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I think they made the best choice better that you lose some $$$ then Lives
The loss of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ (not $$$) will, in the long run, lead to bankruptcies, unemployment, and poverty. Poverty also leads to loss of life through suicides, riots, malnutrition, and other ways. The malnutrition caused by poverty means that people will be less resistant to other sicknesses.
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Old Mar 12, 20, 9:15 pm
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The loss of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ (not $$$) will, in the long run, lead to bankruptcies, unemployment, and poverty. Poverty also leads to loss of life through suicides, riots, malnutrition, and other ways. The malnutrition caused by poverty means that people will be less resistant to other sicknesses.
Yep its a Catch 22 and you are darned if you do or if you dont. Thusly its better to lose potential life style levels of comfort then to lose actual lives. And now several other Countries have followed suit and some went even further and not allowing any non-citizens of that Country to enter
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This gets better everyday. Visitors to Israel are now required to fill in the following form and submit to their consulate 5 days prior to flying:

https://embassies.gov.il/new-york-he...7%96%d7%a8.doc

Anyone planning on doing this?
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Originally Posted by friedablass View Post
This gets better everyday. Visitors to Israel are now required to fill in the following form and submit to their consulate 5 days prior to flying:

https://embassies.gov.il/new-york-he...7%96%d7%a8.doc

Anyone planning on doing this?
I'm sure it's a better option than either being denied boarding or worse being denied entry after arriving.
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I'm sure it's a better option than either being denied boarding or worse being denied entry after arriving.
For sure, but why not just ban entry to all/most non-essential foreign travelers? Wouldn't that be more effective and they won't have to be busy with all this paperwork and having to actually check up on people to make sure they are following the directives?
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Old Mar 14, 20, 3:03 am
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Originally Posted by friedablass View Post
For sure, but why not just ban entry to all/most non-essential foreign travelers? Wouldn't that be more effective and they won't have to be busy with all this paperwork and having to actually check up on people to make sure they are following the directives?
Well they effectively did, how do you suggest they otherwise decide who are "essential foreign travelers", it can either be done by the embassies or at the border and the former is definitely better.
I hardly think embassies will be bombarded with requests of foreign travelers to enter.
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Old Mar 16, 20, 1:37 pm
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For sure, but why not just ban entry to all/most non-essential foreign travelers? Wouldn't that be more effective and they won't have to be busy with all this paperwork and having to actually check up on people to make sure they are following the directives?
Today there are 100s if not 1000s of people who own homes (be it an apt or villa) in Israel. So even thou they may not be an Israeli citizen , could be they dont want to say you cant go to your residence. Thats why they said Hotels,dorms,hostels are not places that are good for the 14 day quarantine period, that seems to exclude those who own or have access to a residence

So they dont want to tell a person who has access to their residence that they cant come , they can but now they have to adhere to this filing, I take it the 5 days before is so that it can be checked to make sure their claim to having said residence is true
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