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GUWonder Sep 20, 18 2:25 pm

TLV airport and Jerusalem connected by high-speed train
 
Finally, it seems to be about to open for public use. It’s a decade late to get up and running, but some would say better late than never.

Given the variance in road travel time when going from Jerusalem to TLV to try to catch a flight out of TLV, this should hopefully help make the journey more predictable.

joshwex90 Sep 20, 18 3:24 pm

It's not really open. It's an utter joke. Won't run past 20:00, on Fridays, or Saturday night. Only a couple an hour. It won't be predictable until the train truly launches which will require a competent leadership.

RedChili Sep 20, 18 4:55 pm

Checking the rail.co.il web site, I'm slightly confused by this sentence:


As of the inauguration date of the line and for a 90 day period thereafter, traveling from the Yitzchak Navon Train Station in Jerusalem will be free of charge to any destination in Israel and back – only for those passengers purchasing a trip contract (train ticket) on a personal or semi anonymous Rav Kav card at the Yitzchak Navon Train Station in Jerusalem.
So, the trip is free of charge if you buy a ticket? What am I missing?

ajeleonard Sep 20, 18 5:03 pm

160 kph is not high speed

Ditto Sep 21, 18 12:29 am


Originally Posted by RedChili (Post 30227180)
So, the trip is free of charge if you buy a ticket? What am I missing?

You still need a ticket to be able to enter/exit the train stations, I suppose purchase is the wrong word to use though.

joshwex90 Sep 21, 18 1:40 am


Originally Posted by RedChili (Post 30227180)
Checking the rail.co.il web site, I'm slightly confused by this sentence:



So, the trip is free of charge if you buy a ticket? What am I missing?

You are "purchasing" a ticket for 0 shekel. Common method in Israel on new train lines (as well as Jerusalem light rail) to make them free for a few months to get people traveling on it before eventually charging the standard fare. But because there are fare gates set up as passengers commencing outside Jerusalem as well as anyone buying a ticket online pay full fare, you need to have some kind of a ticket to get through, even if it's free.

FlyerTLV Sep 21, 18 8:15 am

From the excerpt quoted by RedChili:

As of the inauguration date of the line and for a 90 day period thereafter, traveling from the Yitzchak Navon Train Station in Jerusalem will be free of chargeto any destination in Israel and back – only for those passengers purchasing a trip contract (train ticket) on a personal or semi anonymous Rav Kav card at the Yitzchak Navon Train Station in Jerusalem

... as I understand it, traveling will only be free for those who carry a Rav Kav (the multi-use public transportation card) and only if they pick up their free tickets in Jerusalem.

I don't know how it actually is going to work, but that's how I am reading those lines.

GUWonder Sep 21, 18 8:19 am

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Originally Posted by ajeleonard (Post 30227207)
160 kph is not high speed

Compared to existing Israeli train service it isnít?

100mph is high-speed enough given how long it takes to go by road or any other route unless you make regular use of helicopters to get to the airport.

Itís certainly no maglev like to PVG, but 100mph isnít a slow-speed train even as itís considerably slower than the Amtrak Acela service were the Acela to operate at 150mph pretty much the whole way.

joshwex90 Sep 24, 18 1:01 pm


Originally Posted by FlyerTLV (Post 30229034)
From the excerpt quoted by RedChili:

As of the inauguration date of the line and for a 90 day period thereafter, traveling from the Yitzchak Navon Train Station in Jerusalem will be free of chargeto any destination in Israel and back – only for those passengers purchasing a trip contract (train ticket) on a personal or semi anonymous Rav Kav card at the Yitzchak Navon Train Station in Jerusalem

... as I understand it, traveling will only be free for those who carry a Rav Kav (the multi-use public transportation card) and only if they pick up their free tickets in Jerusalem.

I don't know how it actually is going to work, but that's how I am reading those lines.

Correct

GUWonder Oct 23, 18 4:47 am


Originally Posted by joshwex90 (Post 30226827)
It's not really open. It's an utter joke. Won't run past 20:00, on Fridays, or Saturday night. Only a couple an hour. It won't be predictable until the train truly launches which will require a competent leadership.

It's open enough for now: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/el-a...l#post30345472

mbgg Oct 27, 18 3:21 am

The train from the airport to Jerusalem is "up and running" but only for those with personal "Rav Kav" magnetic cards, which means that tourists currently can't buy tickets. I took the train last week and the good news is that the trip takes only 22 minutes!!

joshwex90 Oct 28, 18 2:45 am


Originally Posted by mbgg (Post 30361547)
The train from the airport to Jerusalem is "up and running" but only for those with personal "Rav Kav" magnetic cards, which means that tourists currently can't buy tickets. I took the train last week and the good news is that the trip takes only 22 minutes!!

I took the train last week several times, and I saw a few people who boarded at the airport with paper tickets and were speaking to the staff in English. My assumption is they were tourists.

GUWonder Nov 14, 18 7:05 am


Originally Posted by mbgg (Post 30361547)
The train from the airport to Jerusalem is "up and running" but only for those with personal "Rav Kav" magnetic cards, which means that tourists currently can't buy tickets. I took the train last week and the good news is that the trip takes only 22 minutes!!

Terminal 3 arrivals’ Public Transportation Information Center has a Rav-Kav service that sells them. There is the staffed window and also the self-service kiosk right next to the staffed window. Works fine for tourists.

https://www.gov.il/he/Departments/ne...y_of_transport

jblueflyer Nov 14, 18 7:19 am

Wow, Im definitely using this when Im back in Jerusalem. Getting to TLV and back within a predictable time window is next to impossible. We almost missed our flight last time around.

joshwex90 Nov 15, 18 1:58 am


Originally Posted by jblueflyer (Post 30428362)
Wow, Im definitely using this when Im back in Jerusalem. Getting to TLV and back within a predictable time window is next to impossible. We almost missed our flight last time around.

Keep in mind that until the trial period finishes, it still doesn't run at night or on Friday


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