How safe are LGBT people in Dubai?
I was wondering if LGBT people who look a bit flamboyant are safe and accepted in Dubai.
Also do women have to wear a headscarf? I'm talking about potential tourists of European descent not the locals. |
You'll probably find more information on this in the GLBT Travelers forum, in the Special Interest Travelers section of FT. There's a current thread on gay couples in the UAE there. You might want a moderator to move your question to that forum or even to merge it with that thread, but I'll let you make that call rather than alerting a mod myself.
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I know zero about the LGBT situation there, but female visitors are not required to wear headscarves in public.
Might keep one handy if you wish to participate in a more traditional Arab experience or visit a mosque, but you don't need one to visit the typical tourist spots around town. |
Originally Posted by pinniped
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I know zero about the LGBT situation there...
Legally speaking, IIRC a video that discussed the various legality of international airport zones, and that technically if you're caught doing an illegal act (which in many of these countries is homosexuality) under their nation, you legally could be prosecuted. To answer the very generic question in the title. LGBT people are probably less safe than heterosexual people in Dubai. |
My guess is given the huge expat population in Dubai, being gay is a complete non-issue.....especially for a Western tourist from a non-Muslim country.
Maybe this article will help assuage your concerns: http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel...9e386a95abc2a0 |
Originally Posted by ginmqi
(Post 29000905)
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that being LGBT in one of those Arab-Muslim countries is probably not the best thing you want to be.
Legally speaking, IIRC a video that discussed the various legality of international airport zones, and that technically if you're caught doing an illegal act (which in many of these countries is homosexuality) under their nation, you legally could be prosecuted. To answer the very generic question in the title. LGBT people are probably less safe than heterosexual people in Dubai. True about international zones in airports: it's still the country's territory, and they can prosecute you for crimes committed there. Every now and then we get a question about why Canada has "given" little bits of territory in all of their airports to the United States. Or questions about whether those little territories are like individual U.S. embassies. They aren't...it's still Canada...they just created a procedure that is beneficial to the airlines and passengers that use the space. |
Originally Posted by FlyingMonsieur
(Post 28998405)
I was wondering if LGBT people who look a bit flamboyant are safe and accepted in Dubai.
Also do women have to wear a headscarf? I'm talking about potential tourists of European descent not the locals. Male campness (which i'm guessing is what you mean by "flamboyant") registers as interesting, but shouldn't cause any problem a long as the baihaviour doesn't get, errr, physical. |
Originally Posted by jaymar01
(Post 29002290)
My guess is given the huge expat population in Dubai, being gay is a complete non-issue.....especially for a Western tourist from a non-Muslim country.
Maybe this article will help assuage your concerns: http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel...9e386a95abc2a0 Women are not required to wear head coverings. They (and everyone else) are expected to comply with dress provisions in the "Dubai code of conduct", which I believe is available on the Dubai police website. Not all visitors do comply. |
Hi
Not being gay myself but lived a year in Dubai and have several gay friends who come with their partner to DXB/ ADH for vacation every year - no problem at all. You might not book a double room for 2 adult men - and you wont' kiss/ hug your partner in public to maintain Arabian customs (but note that technically not even unmarried men/ women are allowed to show affection). There are hundreds (if not thousands) gay people in Dubai and I've never heard of any problems - and many of them work as cabin crew for EK. Daniel |
Originally Posted by FlyingMonsieur
(Post 28998405)
I was wondering if LGBT people who look a bit flamboyant are safe and accepted in Dubai.
Also do women have to wear a headscarf? I'm talking about potential tourists of European descent not the locals. For sure you do not have to wear any veils or headscarfs, no need at all, just in case you intend to go inside a mosque just like Jumierah mosque of Dubai and Zayed mosque of Abu Dhabi, you then will have to wear a headsacrf according to the dress code to be followed. |
Originally Posted by Duck1981
(Post 29059237)
Hi
Not being gay myself but lived a year in Dubai and have several gay friends who come with their partner to DXB/ ADH for vacation every year - no problem at all. You might not book a double room for 2 adult men - and you wont' kiss/ hug your partner in public to maintain Arabian customs (but note that technically not even unmarried men/ women are allowed to show affection). There are hundreds (if not thousands) gay people in Dubai and I've never heard of any problems - and many of them work as cabin crew for EK. Daniel |
Blanket reassurances based on anecdotal evidence are comforting, but fail to take account of the capricious application of laws in Dubai and elsewhere in the Gulf. I have any number of UAE-based friends and colleagues who cohabit with partners. They are pretty blasé about their situation, but they do know that unexpected events - pregnancy, denunciation - could leave them vulnerable to deportation, or worse. They know because their employer's HR department tells them so.
The recent case of the hapless Scottish lad who faced jail after another fellow claimed he'd been touched inappropriately by the young man in a bar highlights the risk to gay visitors. The "victim" withdrew his complaint when he understood the serious implications of his actions, but the authorities went along with a prosecution until interrupted by an edict from on high. So I guess the answer is enjoy yourself, but don't get lulled into a sense of false security. Be circumspect in your behaviour, gay or straight. |
Originally Posted by IAN-UK
(Post 29097923)
Blanket reassurances based on anecdotal evidence are comforting, but fail to take account of the capricious application of laws in Dubai and elsewhere in the Gulf. I have any number of UAE-based friends and colleagues who cohabit with partners. They are pretty blasé about their situation, but they do know that unexpected events - pregnancy, denunciation - could leave them vulnerable to deportation, or worse. They know because their employer's HR department tells them so.
The recent case of the hapless Scottish lad who faced jail after another fellow claimed he'd been touched inappropriately by the young man in a bar highlights the risk to gay visitors. The "victim" withdrew his complaint when he understood the serious implications of his actions, but the authorities went along with a prosecution until interrupted by an edict from on high. So I guess the answer is enjoy yourself, but don't get lulled into a sense of false security. Be circumspect in your behaviour, gay or straight. Capricious applications of the law can take place in the EU and US too; but then an edict from on high doesn’t achieve as much as easily as in Dubai. |
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3csvpvk#play
This may offer some insights in to the treatment of LGBT people in the UAE. Parts of the interview are fairly harrowing, although it focuses primarily on the accusation of fraud. |
I would also say that how bad it gets for people who end up in legal trouble in the UAE varies a lot and comes down often to the person's nationality (or even perceived ethnicity or religion) and how much their home country's government is able to make an issue of it and matters to the UAE's rulers.
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