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dh010447 Aug 11, 2012 9:35 am

Grumble grumble, TLV...
 
Probably my own stupid fault, but as its too hot to go outside and the hotel lobby was beginning to get boring, I figured I'd head off the the airport early. Hang around in the lounge, have a few drinks to knock me out for the flight...

But wait, what's that... I can't check in yet? So no access to the lounge? Instead, I have to sit at one of the few tables in the 'departures' area, next to all the closed shops? Oh, and I have to drag my case around with me, because I can't check in...

Am I missing somthing?

Rant over...

rafi2k6 Aug 11, 2012 10:24 am

Grumble grumble, TLV...
 
Haha I've made that mistake in the past, at TLV check in counters only open 3 hours before departure usually.
Quite annoying really...
At least there's a good duty free shopping "rotunda"

aj8 Aug 11, 2012 10:44 am

Grumble grumble, TLV...
 
Nothing worth going to TLV early for anyway, as far as I could tell last month. I was not a bit impressed with the Dan lounge. No bar, just an open bottle of house wine, and an iceberg lettuce salad. Long line for it too! I left early and went shoe shopping.

rafi2k6 Aug 11, 2012 10:47 am

I bought a suit :D

jmastron Aug 11, 2012 11:23 am

Yeah, TLV on a Friday evening (or Saturday until Shabbat ends, which is right about now if my time zone and web sundown calculation is correct) is not the most exciting place to hang out. Other nights all of the shops and restaurants in that long area behind the checkin counters (before security) are a reasonable way to kill a couple hours, but at least when I was there on a Friday night a few months ago, the only thing open was one of the coffee stands.

You'd still have to carry your luggage around, but at least something to do. You're not missing anything, that's kind of just the way it is at TLV. All of the airlines with just a flight or two don't open checkin until 3 hours before; I've heard sometimes you can check in earlier for El Al...but they don't fly or open the counters on Shabbat at all (they do after it ends for their Saturday night flights), so that's moot.

At least once you get checked in, most of the post-security shops (plus your lounge) should be open -- about half to 3/4 were even on the Friday night I was there. Maybe the food will even be fresh after sundown (Burger Ranch was the only thing open, and I'm pretty sure they were only serving reheated food during Shabbat because they're Kosher).

Sorry it didn't work out the way you planned.

dh010447 Aug 11, 2012 11:24 am

It wouldn't be so bad if it was not Shabbat... Everything is closed, all I have is one single sandwich stall.... That sells fish and vegetable sandwiches.... At least they sell beer, that should keep me going for the next hour and 20 minutes... Worst tuna sandwich I have ever had...

dh010447 Aug 11, 2012 11:30 am

Ahhhhhhh....... Pizza hut just opened! Didnt relise the sun had gone down already... Wow, I just looked up and the other stores have just opened too... As is the staff were just sitting... waiting... Lurking behind the counters for the sun to go down.

Happy days... (wonders if pizza hut only does tuna and vegetable pizza...)

dh010447 Aug 11, 2012 11:48 am

Grrr.... Jumped the gun a bit there, only a couple of places have opened and none of them particularly interesting... Oh, and Pizza huts menu? Tuna and vegetable pizza...

Can't wait for the chicken on the plane. Still, there is plenty of beer left and less than an hour until check in :)

awayIgo Aug 12, 2012 6:03 am

I'm curious--how many hours before your flight did you go to the airport? I would have gone and sat by the beach!

clubman Aug 12, 2012 7:10 am


Originally Posted by rafi2k6 (Post 19101392)
Haha I've made that mistake in the past, at TLV check in counters only open 3 hours before departure usually.

It's hardly the only airport that does that.

Even at LHR T5 you cannot check in until 3 hours before your flight unless you have status with the airline or traveling Business/First.

clubman Aug 12, 2012 7:11 am


Originally Posted by aj8 (Post 19101478)
I was not a bit impressed with the Dan lounge. No bar, just an open bottle of house wine, and an iceberg lettuce salad.

While I'm no fan of the Dan lounge (use the KD lounge myself) that's a little unfair.

There is always more food and drinks than that.

clubman Aug 12, 2012 7:13 am


Originally Posted by dh010447 (Post 19101729)
Oh, and Pizza huts menu? Tuna and vegetable pizza...

Well it's kosher so you're not going to find any pepperoni pizzas there...

rafi2k6 Aug 12, 2012 9:29 am

Which is stupid since you can usually check in online 24 hours before your flight, and if you have no bags to check you can go airside 12 hours early if you want in theory.

jmastron Aug 12, 2012 10:41 am


Originally Posted by rafi2k6 (Post 19105716)
Which is stupid since you can usually check in online 24 hours before your flight, and if you have no bags to check you can go airside 12 hours early if you want in theory.

Is that true at TLV though? I've never not checked a bag, but I was pretty sure everyone needed to be interviewed and have a sticker put on their passport -- I'm pretty sure you can't get beyond either security or the passport control without going to the checkin counter. But I'll be happy to be contradicted if I'm wrong.

bostonbali Aug 12, 2012 12:02 pm


Originally Posted by jmastron (Post 19106081)
Is that true at TLV though? I've never not checked a bag, but I was pretty sure everyone needed to be interviewed and have a sticker put on their passport -- I'm pretty sure you can't get beyond either security or the passport control without going to the checkin counter. But I'll be happy to be contradicted if I'm wrong.

TLV now has a lonely security agent sitting behind a podium just before the glass area (where you enter the x-ray area). This is a special checkpoint for people with carry-on only.

Houminer Aug 12, 2012 11:55 pm


Originally Posted by bostonbali (Post 19106493)
TLV now has a lonely security agent sitting behind a podium just before the glass area (where you enter the x-ray area). This is a special checkpoint for people with carry-on only.

I think you need an Israeli passport for this.

seaskybound Aug 17, 2012 8:37 am


Originally Posted by jmastron (Post 19106081)
Is that true at TLV though? I've never not checked a bag, but I was pretty sure everyone needed to be interviewed and have a sticker put on their passport -- I'm pretty sure you can't get beyond either security or the passport control without going to the checkin counter. But I'll be happy to be contradicted if I'm wrong.

I have many times in this case just gone to 'any' security line, not airline specific. I also always bypass the line and got to business security (no matter what class I fly). Saying that, I am low risk security at TLV if you know waht I mean

Reifel Aug 19, 2012 1:52 pm

Made them same mistake some years ago. My CSA flight to Prague and on to Frankfurt (8 hours layover in PRG!!) was leaving around 6 am. Didn't want to take a hotel and was at the airport around midnight. Tried to check in online, but got a receipt that i need to collect my boarding pass at the check in counter. Which was supposed to open 3 hours before the flight. Luckily it did some 3,5 hours or so.
My plan was to crush at the Dan Lounge. Realized later that they threw you out after 2 hours anyway...

Was a loooooong way. At the counter got the information that they are oversold and they would willing to put me on the El Al nonstop to FRA around 9 am. Nice! Always wanted to use El Al and would save me a 8 hours stopover in PRG. However El Al then had 2 hours delay. Gate was a madhouse, as OK and AF had rebooked tons of passengers of their overbooked flight on that flight, which were then supposed to connect to Paris and they were about to miss their connection. An AF/KL employee even came to calm this down. At FRA obviously they all missed their connection since they had only 20 minutes before departure to get to Terminal 2 (from 1C).

Anyway, did they same stupid error than you. TLV is defnitely different than anything else.

joshwex90 Aug 20, 2012 1:58 am

I've always found at out stations that I can't check-in till 3 hours before, and even some hubs in Europe.
As for TLV itself, the Dan Lounge is a contract lounge, so expecting significantly more is unrealistic. It has an OK food selections, including salad, soup, and some other type of food, and drinks, beer, and wine. The "real" lounge at TLV is EL AL's King David Lounge.

But the James Richardson duty free shop is one of the largest in the world, and has (relative to other airport duty free shops) relatively decent prices.


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