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At busy crossing, [non-resident] pedestrians need passports to enter Mexico

Old Aug 20, 15, 9:54 pm
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At busy crossing, [non-resident] pedestrians need passports to enter Mexico

Walking into Mexico at the nation's busiest border crossing with the United States is no longer an uninterrupted stroll for foreigners.

Now, pedestrians going to Tijuana from San Diego at the San Ysidro crossing must choose between a line for Mexicans who walk through unchecked, and a line for foreigners who must show a passport, fill out a form and - if staying more than a week - pay 322 pesos, or roughly $20, for a six-month permit.

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Old Aug 21, 15, 8:55 am
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What would they expect? Mexicans returning home to Mexico vs. foreigner visiting Mexico. No brainer.

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Rodolfo Figueroa, Figueroa, delegate of the National Migration Institute, said "if the line becomes clogged up, we will just let everybody through," Figueroa said. "If we can't check everybody, we won't."

No big deal, either. No u.S. citizen or resident should travel to another country without a U.S. passport or immigration document if they want trouble-free readmission to the USA.

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Old Aug 21, 15, 12:58 pm
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On the Travel Safety/Checkpoints-Border Policy debate forum an opinion is that Mexico is doing this now in exchange/ retaliation/ response to the political debate on immigration. However, the much more likely reason is that is being done after much long time urging by the US Govt which would really like much better information on who and how many people are departing the US.

Much ado about nothing for most people (except those that prefer not to be tracked) - no one seems to mind about document requirements to go into Canada....
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What's the deal with the 322 peso permit? Is that land crossing specific, or is that something new everywhere? That could be an annoyance.
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Old Aug 21, 15, 2:19 pm
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Much ado about nothing for most people (except those that prefer not to be tracked) - no one seems to mind about document requirements to go into Canada....
Agreed. But, crossing from San Diego into Tijuana for dinner is becoming a real pain-in-the-a$$
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Old Aug 22, 15, 8:49 am
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Originally Posted by Doc Savage View Post
What's the deal with the 322 peso permit? Is that land crossing specific, or is that something new everywhere? That could be an annoyance.
What annoyance? If you fly to Mexico, the FMM fee is bundled in your airfare, but you're still paying it. If you're crossing by land or via private conveyance, it's not prepaid and needs to be paid. That's what I've done crossing by bus or POV. (The FMM is the so-called "tourist card", which can be granted for as long as a six month period, good for multiple entries; do not lose the form part handed back, as doing so can submit not to bureaucratic processes and a fine).

Some may think the new procedure is retaliatory, but it looks more like Mexico chose to enact a revenue recovery process (as well as some border management and counting procedure) rather than continue to allow those spending some time in Mexico to walk in without paying; I can envision a substantial amount of money being collected now that was previously not.

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Originally Posted by JDiver View Post
What annoyance? If you fly to Mexico, the FMM fee is bundled in your airfare, but you're still paying it. F you're crossing by land or via private conveyance, it's not prepaid and needs to be paid. That's what I've done crossing by bus or POV.

Some may think the new procedure is retaliatory, but it looks more like Mexico chose to enact a revenue recovery process (as well as some border management and counting procedure) rather than continue to allow those spending some time in Mexico to walk in without paying; I can envision a substantial amount of money being collected now that was previously not.
JDiver, if it were a new, additional fee I'd find it annoying. Wouldn't you?
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JDiver, if it were a new, additional fee I'd find it annoying. Wouldn't you?
If it were, I would.

But it's the same old fee associated with the FMM "tourist card".
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Originally Posted by Section 107 View Post
On the Travel Safety/Checkpoints-Border Policy debate forum an opinion is that Mexico is doing this now in exchange/ retaliation/ response to the political debate on immigration. However, the much more likely reason is that is being done after much long time urging by the US Govt which would really like much better information on who and how many people are departing the US.

Much ado about nothing for most people (except those that prefer not to be tracked) - no one seems to mind about document requirements to go into Canada....
That expressed "opinion" about "retaliation" seemed to be a stretch and then some.

Plenty of people mind the document requirements to go into Canada. The USG is still complaining that Canada is allowing foreign visitors -- US persons included -- to legally enter Canada without a passport and/or NEXUS card. Re-entering back into the U.S. from Canada isn't generally a show-stopper for returning US citizens at US POEs without a passport and/or NEXUS card -- even as it most often (but not always) slows down things a bit. And not everyone is happy with the U.S. WHTI that forced the airlines serving the U.S. to generally require passports and/or NEXUS cards for passengers to fly between the U.S. and Canada (in either direction) too.

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