What parts of Mexico are safe / dangerous for tourists? Safety, Danger, Security
#31
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
Indeed! I especially like the architecture on that side of town. A lot of office buildings, but with flair like in Miami - nothing like the architecture here in Washington DC area which is nice (classical/neo-classical) for the government building but boring as heck for the rest of the area. A lot of great looking houses there, too, if you meander through the side streets (although many are hard to see behind the gates).
The mall at Sante Fe has great shopping (particuarly with the current exchange rates) and there are great views over the city if you can get into some of buildings and see through the smog.
The mall at Sante Fe has great shopping (particuarly with the current exchange rates) and there are great views over the city if you can get into some of buildings and see through the smog.
#32
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Fort Worth, Texas USA
Programs: AA Executive Platinum 5 million miles
Posts: 1,001
I crossed the border from Tijuana to the San Diego area last night. We spent a week driving down the peninsula to Laguna San Ignacio for whale watching. The protesters in San Quintin stopped blocking the highway a few days before we left. We spent time in San Ignacio, Guerrero Negro, Catavina, San Quintin, and Ensenada and felt totally safe.
The whale watching in the lagoons where the gray whales mate, birth, and nurse their calves was unbelievable this year.
The whale watching in the lagoons where the gray whales mate, birth, and nurse their calves was unbelievable this year.
#33
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
I crossed the border from Tijuana to the San Diego area last night. We spent a week driving down the peninsula to Laguna San Ignacio for whale watching. The protesters in San Quintin stopped blocking the highway a few days before we left. We spent time in San Ignacio, Guerrero Negro, Catavina, San Quintin, and Ensenada and felt totally safe.
The whale watching in the lagoons where the gray whales mate, birth, and nurse their calves was unbelievable this year.
The whale watching in the lagoons where the gray whales mate, birth, and nurse their calves was unbelievable this year.
The protestors merely want a raise from the agricultural companies, as they've not had one in years. They don't have a beef with tourists, though I tend to avoid big groupings where police or military might enter into conflict.
#34
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: ORD
Programs: United 1K (Star Alliance Gold) IHG Platinum
Posts: 226
I lived in Guadalajara from 1999-2002 (didn't plan on staying so long, but loved it and couldn't leave) and I regularly talk to quite a few friends down there. Some friends are lower-middle to middle class and others a bit more well-off. None of them feel safe and are looking for places to move.
I don't always give credence to state dept. warnings, but I have to say that with the number of locals that I know that don't think that GDL is safe, even those that live in the 'nicer' areas, it sounds like it's really quite dangerous... hate to say this because I LOVE the city and counting down the days until I can return without worry.
I don't always give credence to state dept. warnings, but I have to say that with the number of locals that I know that don't think that GDL is safe, even those that live in the 'nicer' areas, it sounds like it's really quite dangerous... hate to say this because I LOVE the city and counting down the days until I can return without worry.
#35
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
I lived in Guadalajara from 1999-2002 (didn't plan on staying so long, but loved it and couldn't leave) and I regularly talk to quite a few friends down there. Some friends are lower-middle to middle class and others a bit more well-off. None of them feel safe and are looking for places to move.
I don't always give credence to state dept. warnings, but I have to say that with the number of locals that I know that don't think that GDL is safe, even those that live in the 'nicer' areas, it sounds like it's really quite dangerous... hate to say this because I LOVE the city and counting down the days until I can return without worry.
I don't always give credence to state dept. warnings, but I have to say that with the number of locals that I know that don't think that GDL is safe, even those that live in the 'nicer' areas, it sounds like it's really quite dangerous... hate to say this because I LOVE the city and counting down the days until I can return without worry.
#36
Join Date: Aug 2011
Programs: Marriott Gold, Hilton Diamond, Radisson Rewards Gold, Best Western Diamond Select
Posts: 1,856
I lived in Guadalajara from 1999-2002 (didn't plan on staying so long, but loved it and couldn't leave) and I regularly talk to quite a few friends down there. Some friends are lower-middle to middle class and others a bit more well-off. None of them feel safe and are looking for places to move.
I don't always give credence to state dept. warnings, but I have to say that with the number of locals that I know that don't think that GDL is safe, even those that live in the 'nicer' areas, it sounds like it's really quite dangerous... hate to say this because I LOVE the city and counting down the days until I can return without worry.
I don't always give credence to state dept. warnings, but I have to say that with the number of locals that I know that don't think that GDL is safe, even those that live in the 'nicer' areas, it sounds like it's really quite dangerous... hate to say this because I LOVE the city and counting down the days until I can return without worry.
#37
Join Date: Aug 2011
Programs: Marriott Gold, Hilton Diamond, Radisson Rewards Gold, Best Western Diamond Select
Posts: 1,856
Good news; things are looking up.
BBC - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-31731842
These were the worst of the worst. The "Zetas" have established a vicious drugs cartel ranging from norther Mexico through Guatemala, El Salvadór and into Honduras.
A number of relatives live in Tamaulipas state, and I used to visit (and work irrigation on the farm) as a youth. You couldn't convince me to go on a visit to my relies in Tamaulipas.
BBC - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-31731842
These were the worst of the worst. The "Zetas" have established a vicious drugs cartel ranging from norther Mexico through Guatemala, El Salvadór and into Honduras.
A number of relatives live in Tamaulipas state, and I used to visit (and work irrigation on the farm) as a youth. You couldn't convince me to go on a visit to my relies in Tamaulipas.
#38
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
An episode of violence has broken out in Jalisco that range frim shooting down a government helicipter to settung fire / bombing of several cars and busses in the Guadalajara region. This appears to be a reaction of the attempted crackdown on La Nueva Generación cartel.
Another episode of violence has erupted on the border at Cd. Reynosa.
Another episode of violence has erupted on the border at Cd. Reynosa.
#39
Join Date: Aug 2011
Programs: Marriott Gold, Hilton Diamond, Radisson Rewards Gold, Best Western Diamond Select
Posts: 1,856
An episode of violence has broken out in Jalisco that range frim shooting down a government helicipter to settung fire / bombing of several cars and busses in the Guadalajara region. This appears to be a reaction of the attempted crackdown on La Nueva Generación cartel.
Another episode of violence has erupted on the border at Cd. Reynosa.
Another episode of violence has erupted on the border at Cd. Reynosa.
#40
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
In my experience, crackdowns and wars like this can and often do take on extensive lives of their own with tit for tat reprisals, and civilians getting caught in the middle.
In fact, there has been a huge military crackdown in reply to the rocket-propelled downing of a military helicopter (killing six soldiers) and a series of concerted attacks and reprisals carried out by La Nueva Generación drug cartel in Jalisco and three adjacent states. Vehicles and trucks have been used as flaming blockades; vehicles, police stations and banks have been set afire. -Weekly News
I've stayed and transmitted in areas that were contested or experiencing difficulties, from Oaxaca at times of riots to various government difficulties, revolts, revolutions, even wars, in remote rural and urban areas in Guatemala, El Salvadór, Honduras, Nicaragua (Sandinista revolution - somewhat reminiscent of my time in Vietnam down to the smell of wet red laterite earth), Belize, etc. many times over several decades, most of the time solo, usually driving, sometimes using public transport.
It's hard to beat local knowledge, though, so it's important to ask people who are likely to be in the know locally. Today in Mexico, citizens and neighbors (including members of my family and friends) are using social media to keep each other informed about these issues, which can spring up in moments, using Twitter and other platforms on their mobiles. Photos of the helicopter hit with an RPG (from appearances) were taken with mobiles and Instagrammed in real time; in one frame, you can see the helo and the trail of the rocket as it closes in, another the moment of impact as the helo's fuel tank explodes.
IMO there's nothing like asking locals where it's safe, where and what to avoid, to insure one doesn't inadvertently find trouble; it's plain good risk management.
In fact, there has been a huge military crackdown in reply to the rocket-propelled downing of a military helicopter (killing six soldiers) and a series of concerted attacks and reprisals carried out by La Nueva Generación drug cartel in Jalisco and three adjacent states. Vehicles and trucks have been used as flaming blockades; vehicles, police stations and banks have been set afire. -Weekly News
I've stayed and transmitted in areas that were contested or experiencing difficulties, from Oaxaca at times of riots to various government difficulties, revolts, revolutions, even wars, in remote rural and urban areas in Guatemala, El Salvadór, Honduras, Nicaragua (Sandinista revolution - somewhat reminiscent of my time in Vietnam down to the smell of wet red laterite earth), Belize, etc. many times over several decades, most of the time solo, usually driving, sometimes using public transport.
It's hard to beat local knowledge, though, so it's important to ask people who are likely to be in the know locally. Today in Mexico, citizens and neighbors (including members of my family and friends) are using social media to keep each other informed about these issues, which can spring up in moments, using Twitter and other platforms on their mobiles. Photos of the helicopter hit with an RPG (from appearances) were taken with mobiles and Instagrammed in real time; in one frame, you can see the helo and the trail of the rocket as it closes in, another the moment of impact as the helo's fuel tank explodes.
IMO there's nothing like asking locals where it's safe, where and what to avoid, to insure one doesn't inadvertently find trouble; it's plain good risk management.
Last edited by JDiver; May 9, 2015 at 12:48 pm
#41
Join Date: Aug 2011
Programs: Marriott Gold, Hilton Diamond, Radisson Rewards Gold, Best Western Diamond Select
Posts: 1,856
In my experience, crackdowns and wars like this can and often do take on extensive lives of their own with tit for tat reprisals, and civilians getting caught in the middle.
In fact, there has been a huge military crackdown in reply to the rocket-propelled downing of a military helicopter (killing six soldiers) and a series of concerted attacks and reprisals carried out by La Nueva Generación drug cartel in Jalisco and three adjacent states. Vehicles and trucks have been used as flaming blockades; vehicles, police stations and banks have been set afire. -Weekly News
I've stayed and transmitted in areas that were contested or experiencing difficulties, from Oaxaca at times of riots to various government difficulties, revolts, revolutions, even wars, in remote rural and urban areas in Guatemala, El Salvadór, Honduras, Nicaragua (Sandinista revolution - somewhat reminiscent of my time in Vietnam down to the smell of wet red laterite earth), Belize, etc. many times over several decades, most of the time solo, usually driving, sometimes using public transport.
It's hard to beat local knowledge, though, so it's important to ask people who are likely to be in the know locally. Today in Mexico, citizens and neighbors (including members of my family and friends) are using social media to keep each other informed about these issues, which can spring up in moments, using Twitter and other platforms on their mobiles. Photos of the helicopter hit with an RPG (from appearances) were taken with mobiles and Instagrammed in real time; in one frame, you can see the helo and the trail of the rocket as it closes in, another the moment of impact as the helo's fuel tank explodes.
IMO there's nothing like asking locals where it's safe, where and what to avoid, to insure one doesn't inadvertently find trouble; it's plain good risk management.
In fact, there has been a huge military crackdown in reply to the rocket-propelled downing of a military helicopter (killing six soldiers) and a series of concerted attacks and reprisals carried out by La Nueva Generación drug cartel in Jalisco and three adjacent states. Vehicles and trucks have been used as flaming blockades; vehicles, police stations and banks have been set afire. -Weekly News
I've stayed and transmitted in areas that were contested or experiencing difficulties, from Oaxaca at times of riots to various government difficulties, revolts, revolutions, even wars, in remote rural and urban areas in Guatemala, El Salvadór, Honduras, Nicaragua (Sandinista revolution - somewhat reminiscent of my time in Vietnam down to the smell of wet red laterite earth), Belize, etc. many times over several decades, most of the time solo, usually driving, sometimes using public transport.
It's hard to beat local knowledge, though, so it's important to ask people who are likely to be in the know locally. Today in Mexico, citizens and neighbors (including members of my family and friends) are using social media to keep each other informed about these issues, which can spring up in moments, using Twitter and other platforms on their mobiles. Photos of the helicopter hit with an RPG (from appearances) were taken with mobiles and Instagrammed in real time; in one frame, you can see the helo and the trail of the rocket as it closes in, another the moment of impact as the helo's fuel tank explodes.
IMO there's nothing like asking locals where it's safe, where and what to avoid, to insure one doesn't inadvertently find trouble; it's plain good risk management.
#42
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
I'd visit in the city, and places like Tonalá, Ajijic, Tlaquepaque etc. (The Zaguán Restaurante y Galería, and Restaurante sin Nombre beckon for great food...)
#43
I crossed the border from Tijuana to the San Diego area last night. We spent a week driving down the peninsula to Laguna San Ignacio for whale watching. The protesters in San Quintin stopped blocking the highway a few days before we left. We spent time in San Ignacio, Guerrero Negro, Catavina, San Quintin, and Ensenada and felt totally safe.
#44
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
#45
Original Poster
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Programs: Aeroplan SE AND 1MM, HHonors Gold, Marriott Bonvoy Platinum , L'Accor Platinum
Posts: 9,580
Puerta Vallarta this November
We are going to Puerta Vallarta (actually staying at a resort in N. Vallarta) mid-November. Any updates on safety issues for tourists in those (or nearby areas).
If we have a driver, where can we go in those cities or surrounding regions, and where should we not go (let us say for one day sightseeing car trip)?
If we have a driver, where can we go in those cities or surrounding regions, and where should we not go (let us say for one day sightseeing car trip)?