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Old May 2, 2022, 8:48 pm
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How to View Lifetime Status: https://help.marriott.com/s/article/Article-22489
Lifetime Status Details: https://help.marriott.com/s/article/Article-22145
Elite processing: https://help.marriott.com/s/article/Article-34363

How will my Eligible Status Years for 2022 be applied to my Account and when?

If you maintained the same Elite status in 2022 that you started with in 2022 , your 2022 Eligible Status Year for your current status will be applied to your Account in January 2023.

If you achieved a higher Elite status during 2022, your 2022 Eligible Status Year for the new, higher tier was applied at the time of achievement.

If you did not meet the published criteria to renew your current status in 2022, your 2022 Eligible Status Year for your current status will be added in January 2023, and your Eligible Status Year for your new status will be added in March 2023 when your Elite status is updated.

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When will my 2021 qualifying year of Elite status be applied to my Account so I can track my path to Lifetime Elite Status?


As part of our regular process, Members receive their qualifying year towards Lifetime Elite status in one of two ways:
  1. If you maintain the same Elite level that you started the year with, your Qualifying Year of Elite status will be applied to your Account in January of the following year. Please Note: In November 2021, when we extended the Elite status that Members earned in 2019 or 2020, Members received their 2021 Qualifying Year of Elite status.
  2. If you achieve a higher Elite level during the year than the previous year, your Qualifying Year for the new, higher level will be applied at the time of achievement. Please Note: If you achieved a higher Elite level during 2021, your 2021 qualifying year of Elite status, was applied at the time of achievement.

If you maintain the same Elite level for 2022, your 2022 year of Elite status will be applied to your Account in January 2023. If you achieve a higher Elite level during 2022, your 2022 year of tenure for the new, higher level will be applied at the time of achievement.

Examples:
  • A Member achieved Gold Elite in 2019 and enjoyed the status in 2020. They received their 2020 year of Gold Elite status in July 2020 when we extended their status. Due to status extensions, the Member received their 2021 year of tenure in November 2021 when they their status was extended to February 2023.
  • A Member achieved Platinum Elite in 2020 and enjoyed the status in 2021. They received their 2021 year of Platinum status in November 2021 when they their status was extended to February 2023.
  • A Gold Elite Member achieved Platinum Elite in April 2021; the Platinum year of Elite status for 2021 was applied upon achievement (in April 2021).
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Old Sep 6, 2018, 7:01 am
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As a data point I lost 18 nights during whatever update happened over the last couple of days, still kept me above the threshold. No idea why.
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Old Sep 6, 2018, 7:13 am
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So confused

Here is my scenario - 550 nights combined - mostly SPG - Lifetime Gold SPG - 1.5 million combined points 11 years of Platinum level. So I know I get lifetime Gold in the new program . But after combining , I would have met the criteria for legacy SPG Lifetime Platinum - does that mean I would get lifetime Platinum in 2019 ? If I get to 1.6 million points , given my COMBINED nights and Platinum years across the programs , I would qualify for Legacy Marriott Gold - does that map to Lifetime Platinum in 2019 ? Sorry for the confusion - any help appreciated .
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Old Sep 6, 2018, 7:35 am
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Originally Posted by jmail1
As a data point I lost 18 nights during whatever update happened over the last couple of days, still kept me above the threshold. No idea why.
It was a known issue that YTD nights were counted twice in the LT total. My LT nights dropped by 50+ nights last night but they had been increased by that amount on Aug 18. There were multiple banners on the app warning that LT nights were incorrect.

Did you notice if LT nights took a big jump on Aug 18?
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Old Sep 6, 2018, 7:57 am
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Originally Posted by margarita girl
It was a known issue that YTD nights were counted twice in the LT total. My LT nights dropped by 50+ nights last night but they had been increased by that amount on Aug 18. There were multiple banners on the app warning that LT nights were incorrect.

Did you notice if LT nights took a big jump on Aug 18?
I didn't know how many lifetime nights I had with Marriott, so I don't know. I'm in a place between statuses that it didn't really impact me but wanted to put it out there if it was helpful to anyone.
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Old Sep 6, 2018, 8:31 am
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Originally Posted by jmail1
I didn't know how many lifetime nights I had with Marriott, so I don't know. I'm in a place between statuses that it didn't really impact me but wanted to put it out there if it was helpful to anyone.
Not knowing where you started from (pre merge) makes it tough to determine if you've landed where you should. Unless you landed above top tier it does matter. See if you can find any status messages from Marriott before the 18th and work the numbers from there.
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Old Sep 6, 2018, 8:33 am
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DP - I lost 10 LT nights overnight from my SPG account. Does not matter that much since I am not near any thresholds, but they could have offered the courtesy of a email notification as to why this happened. Yet another example of the total communications failure since Aug 18

I have not yet combined my accounts because my MRR account is a mess with missing nights and points since July, and I am reluctant to combine until it gets cleaned up.
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Old Sep 6, 2018, 8:35 am
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Originally Posted by Mister Nice
Here is my scenario - 550 nights combined - mostly SPG - Lifetime Gold SPG - 1.5 million combined points 11 years of Platinum level. So I know I get lifetime Gold in the new program . But after combining , I would have met the criteria for legacy SPG Lifetime Platinum - does that mean I would get lifetime Platinum in 2019 ? If I get to 1.6 million points , given my COMBINED nights and Platinum years across the programs , I would qualify for Legacy Marriott Gold - does that map to Lifetime Platinum in 2019 ? Sorry for the confusion - any help appreciated .
To qualify under legacy rules the numbers must come from legacy properties. So if your "COMBINED nights and Platinum years" is what puts you over, that doesn't count. If you can post your pre-combination numbers we can break it down for you. Also, earning under legacy rules after the merge will happen in January when they sweep the accounts, again per program.
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Old Sep 6, 2018, 9:19 am
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Originally Posted by RogerD408
To qualify under legacy rules the numbers must come from legacy properties. So if your "COMBINED nights and Platinum years" is what puts you over, that doesn't count. If you can post your pre-combination numbers we can break it down for you. Also, earning under legacy rules after the merge will happen in January when they sweep the accounts, again per program.
Thank you for the reply - now i get it - I was at 400 nights SPG and 150 MR so I will be Lifetime Gold via my existing SPG Lifetime Gold . I had thought it was combined after combining my accounts.
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Old Sep 6, 2018, 9:27 am
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Originally Posted by Mister Nice
Thank you for the reply - now i get it - I was at 400 nights SPG and 150 MR so I will be Lifetime Gold via my existing SPG Lifetime Gold . I had thought it was combined after combining my accounts.
Earning under legacy rules will only count legacy activity. Now the good news is once you combine with the 550 LT nights and ten years as Platinum, you will only need 50 more nights to qualify for MPG LTP. See https://members.marriott.com/benefits/ for all the gory details.
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Old Sep 6, 2018, 10:13 am
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Originally Posted by margarita girl
It was a known issue that YTD nights were counted twice in the LT total. My LT nights dropped by 50+ nights last night but they had been increased by that amount on Aug 18. There were multiple banners on the app warning that LT nights were incorrect.

Did you notice if LT nights took a big jump on Aug 18?
Yup. I lost 36 nights from my combined account last night. That corresponds to the number SPG nights I had before Aug. 18. My ambassador status (un-earned as far as I can tell) remains.
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Old Sep 6, 2018, 10:30 am
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I lost nights last night too although unlike some of the ones posted here, the loss does not compute to YTD nights and the doubling of YTD nights. IDK how they came up with the reduction to my account.

At this point, it seems to be a moot point as it does not change anything as it relates to LT status however it does give me pause that if they can make those kind of "adjustments" then who know what else can be adjusted retroactively and when they will make those adjustments
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Old Sep 6, 2018, 10:39 am
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Originally Posted by TrojanHorse
I lost nights last night too although unlike some of the ones posted here, the loss does not compute to YTD nights and the doubling of YTD nights. IDK how they came up with the reduction to my account.

At this point, it seems to be a moot point as it does not change anything as it relates to LT status however it does give me pause that if they can make those kind of "adjustments" then who know what else can be adjusted retroactively and when they will make those adjustments
I'm pretty sure if you drilled down on the data you will find the proof. In my case my SPG LT nights were increased by exactly my SPG YTD nights. That was corrected last night.

Yes, if your LT nights already put you over the top, then there is no concern. You've been around long enough to know if you scour the T&Cs you will see they have the right to make corrections at any time and that you do not own the account to begin with, but only have the right to use the benefits until they choose to take them away or close down the program whenever they want. Enjoy what you can as soon as you can because it might not be there tomorrow.
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Old Sep 6, 2018, 10:48 am
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WHY are people thinking that any "missing" points/nights/stays are final at this point still? I'm still getting red banners on the site and I haven't had a post-merger stay detail show up yet, so who is under the impression this fustercluck of an IT merge is at all done (much less "expecting an E-mail as to why they've deducted from my account")?!
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Old Sep 6, 2018, 10:53 am
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The following link no longer shows the old page for me to see lifetime points:

https://www.marriott.com/rewards/rewards-program.mi
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Old Sep 6, 2018, 10:57 am
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I also lost combined nights; mine happen to equal my SPG year to date nights (which had NOT been double-counted in my lifetime total).
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