Open Letter to Marriott Leadership
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Open Letter to Marriott Leadership
Let’s face it - major system changes don’t always go the way they should go. Yes more testing, risk analysis, beta groups, etc should always be done. But sometimes it still just doesn’t go right. And employees or worse customers are impacted. The problem here is that you’re not being transparent as to the problem, what our current experience is, and what you’re doing about it. . Will I permanently lose loads of points that are currently missing? Missing stays or status? When I called customer service they had no idea. The status.marriott.com was incorrect.
A “yes we messed up, and you’re impacted this way, we’re working around the clock on this, and we’ll give you updates at least once a day “ would go a long way. Without this we’re left to guess, complain, and assume no one has their act together. Please be transparent with us.. we all know things don’t always go right...and set the foundation for a great merger.
I took a southwest flight recently where the multi hour delay was clearly southwests fault. Before I got home I had an apology note in my email and a small credit for a future flight. Nicely done by sw.
A “yes we messed up, and you’re impacted this way, we’re working around the clock on this, and we’ll give you updates at least once a day “ would go a long way. Without this we’re left to guess, complain, and assume no one has their act together. Please be transparent with us.. we all know things don’t always go right...and set the foundation for a great merger.
I took a southwest flight recently where the multi hour delay was clearly southwests fault. Before I got home I had an apology note in my email and a small credit for a future flight. Nicely done by sw.
Last edited by azoomee; Jul 27, 2019 at 3:38 pm
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While I understand that some people are really upset because of major issues with their account, I am not one of them. My lifetime status is messed up, but my points and yearly status are fine. I have shifted my stays to Hilton since July, and will come back to Marriott when things settle down. I haven't tried to merge my accounts, either.
Forgiveness is good for the soul. There are bigger things in my life to worry about than this.
Forgiveness is good for the soul. There are bigger things in my life to worry about than this.
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Maybe use twitter to get some attention?
Yes, transparency is the biggest issue. Under SPG, we had a really great Lurker Team. Marriott really distanced itself with FT after the EEO Weekend Coupon move many years ago.
Even on https://insiders.marriottrewards.com...-conversations , there does not seem to be a lot of updates...and there is a survey that is interesting: https://insiders.marriottrewards.com/polls/1884
Yes, transparency is the biggest issue. Under SPG, we had a really great Lurker Team. Marriott really distanced itself with FT after the EEO Weekend Coupon move many years ago.
Even on https://insiders.marriottrewards.com...-conversations , there does not seem to be a lot of updates...and there is a survey that is interesting: https://insiders.marriottrewards.com/polls/1884
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While I understand that some people are really upset because of major issues with their account, I am not one of them. My lifetime status is messed up, but my points and yearly status are fine. I have shifted my stays to Hilton since July, and will come back to Marriott when things settle down. I haven't tried to merge my accounts, either.
Forgiveness is good for the soul. There are bigger things in my life to worry about than this.
Forgiveness is good for the soul. There are bigger things in my life to worry about than this.
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Clearly tone-deaf, do you think Marriott leadership even knows they have egg on their face with this poorly executed transition?
(Talking about sudden loss of perks, poor disclosure on things like travel packages while giving us the crappy Marriott mobile app in addition to the IT woes).
(Talking about sudden loss of perks, poor disclosure on things like travel packages while giving us the crappy Marriott mobile app in addition to the IT woes).
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While I understand that some people are really upset because of major issues with their account, I am not one of them. My lifetime status is messed up, but my points and yearly status are fine. I have shifted my stays to Hilton since July, and will come back to Marriott when things settle down. I haven't tried to merge my accounts, either.
Forgiveness is good for the soul. There are bigger things in my life to worry about than this.
Forgiveness is good for the soul. There are bigger things in my life to worry about than this.
Alexandra/other Lurkers. Respectfully, you need to get management to understand the importance of much more communication of overall status and acknowledgement of issues being mentioned here and on other platforms. Status.Marriott.com gives a cheery picture, yet there are hundreds upon hundreds of posts here of people who have missing points, incorrect status, reservations that have disappeared, and so on. By not having ONGOING communications, people are left in the dark as to whether their problem is known and will be fixed, or whether they will ever have a fix.
I say this as someone who has been a stockholder of Marriott since 1990, and even today I have over $50K in Marriott stock. (This doesn't count all of the spinoff's over the years.) So I, like you, want the merger to succeed and Marriott to succeed. But I am getting quite worried not only about my accounts combining correctly, but also my investment in Marriott. I know the integration work on the merge of the I/T is massive (that is my background), but the communications to your most loyal customers MUST be better.
I say this as someone who has been a stockholder of Marriott since 1990, and even today I have over $50K in Marriott stock. (This doesn't count all of the spinoff's over the years.) So I, like you, want the merger to succeed and Marriott to succeed. But I am getting quite worried not only about my accounts combining correctly, but also my investment in Marriott. I know the integration work on the merge of the I/T is massive (that is my background), but the communications to your most loyal customers MUST be better.
As an aside, while I am "retired" now (not really, as I teach college level computer science full time), I spent a good number of years as a "fixer", i.e. someone who was called into I/T projects that were failing. I've seen things like this before, and careers ruined because I/T management were not prepared and more importantly did not have a good plan to fix issues and communicate to their users. The good news here is that I have a great case study for my students to investigate for a Systems Analysis & Design class.
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An "open letter" will not get any traction. MR abandoned FT years ago. Yes, there have been random posting by MarriottConcierge but no responses to any posts, so just a drive-by post, maybe even done by the SPG Lurkers on their behalf. You can try posting on Marriott Insiders, but they control that site and your post is likely to disappear if considered anti-Marriott. Maybe if you can get one of the bloggers to pick it up, but as reported elsewhere, even they seem to have gone silent on all things Marriott (funny what funding can do). Unfortunately, FT is a very small percentage of MR/SPG population,so even if we all walked away, I doubt MR would notice, except for the quieter customer base.
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People are much too impatient, expecting a magic wand to be waved and all changes are made..good lord, it’s only been a week or two!
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1 - they had a long time to plan this so it is not just a magic wand
2 - they are not communicating effectively with the customers on all the issues - not here, not on their own sites
Some people have points to transfer to book airline trips, some people have statuses to achieve with the merged accounts, etc.
What I am curious to see is how this will impact Q3 numbers.
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While at the end of the day it is just a hotel loyalty program, we obviously take this stuff pretty seriously around here
Unfortunately, I suspect the impact will be minimal. Whether there's lasting damage to the brand is a different question, but I suspect that will be minimal as well. People have limited choices and short memories.
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Marriott leadership is way past the point of P.O. a large number of folks. They should have fallen on the sword days ago and said there will be a nightly update email or a nightly update webpage you can go to to see what’s been fixed and what’s still be worked on. Knowing your missing points, or stays, or point refund issues are being actively worked on, versus no idea whatsoever what is being worked on are dramatically different customer panic levels.
No one is collecting this data to give to Marriott like the Starwood Lurkers did for us during the pre-changeover
process. My guess is this is 99.9% us venting and it’s going nowhere up the chain at Marriott.
The biggest joke is the Marriott loyalty person doing that interview a couple days ago saying everything went great with the two programs merging onto one.
Heck us SPG ers got our message thru to Marriott about Platinum Lifetime status, thanks in great part to the Starwood Lurkers here on FT and some well connected FT members, there must be a way to get this message thru to someone in a power position at Marriott.
The suggestion of bad press/media and people ready to revolt is usually enough to get something fixed, repaired, changed, updated, talked about.
Maybe someone can post JW jrs and Arne’s email addresses so we can all let them know directly how the program merger isn’t working and how the head in sand attitude instead of open communication to the membership is getting folks really upset.
#15
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The merger has impacted my travel. I have not been able to make or modify reservations as needed. I also had issues where I was not sure of the location of a property. The web site was not working and phone lines were not answered. I ended up calling all the Aloft locations in a city to determine which location my reservation was at.
The lack of customer service and training has been evident, if and when I have gotten through. I have been very disappointed on how Marriott has supported their customers through this merger. I have been staying primarily at Hilton locations for the past few weeks and hope Marriott fixes their issues quickly.
The lack of customer service and training has been evident, if and when I have gotten through. I have been very disappointed on how Marriott has supported their customers through this merger. I have been staying primarily at Hilton locations for the past few weeks and hope Marriott fixes their issues quickly.