May 9, 2018, 11:36 am
Last edit by: rny321
PATHWAYS TO LIFETIME PLATINUM PREMIER ELITE STATUS:
1. Legacy Marriott Lifetime Platinum - 750 [MR+SPG] nights & 2MM Marriott Rewards points earned - not available after 1/1/2019
2. New Combined Program - 750 [MR+SPG] nights & 10 years combined/total as Platinum members previously under MR and/or SPG as of 12/31/2018 - not available after 1/1/2019
From members.marriott.com:
NOTE: Members that reach 750 nights and 10 years at Platinum by December 31, 2018 will be grandfathered into Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite status (notified January 2019).
FAQ from members.marriott.com
Q: CAN I EARN LIFETIME STATUS UNDER THE LEGACY REQUIREMENTS (ACTIVE PRIOR TO AUGUST 2018) FOR LIFETIME ELITE STATUS IN MARRIOTT REWARDS, RITZ-CARLTON REWARDS OR SPG? IF SO, WHEN WILL I BE NOTIFIED OF MY LIFETIME ELITE STATUS?
A: Yes, in addition to earning based on the new criteria, members can earn Lifetime Elite Status under the legacy requirements through the end of 2018. If Lifetime status is achieved by legacy requirements, between August and December 31, 2018 you will receive notice of your updated Lifetime Elite status in January 2019. If Lifetime status is achieved based on the new criteria, you will be notified both in August 2018 as well as any time it is achieved through the end of the year.
Example: An SPG member has 300 Lifetime nights, 4 years of Gold Elite Status, and 1 year of Platinum Elite Status after August, 2018. Under the SPG legacy Lifetime requirements, this member would earn Lifetime Gold Elite status which would reflect in their account January 2019.
Q: IF I WILL NOT BE GRANDFATHERED INTO LIFETIME PLATINUM PREMIER ELITE, WILL I HAVE THE ABILITY TO EARN INTO THIS LEVEL IN 2018?
A: Yes, members can earn Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite in 2018 if they achieve 750 Lifetime nights and 10 years at Platinum Elite status. This requirement is only for 2018 and will not be continued in future years. Members will receive notice of this Lifetime achievement in January 2019.
1. Legacy Marriott Lifetime Platinum - 750 [MR+SPG] nights & 2MM Marriott Rewards points earned - not available after 1/1/2019
2. New Combined Program - 750 [MR+SPG] nights & 10 years combined/total as Platinum members previously under MR and/or SPG as of 12/31/2018 - not available after 1/1/2019
From members.marriott.com:
NOTE: Members that reach 750 nights and 10 years at Platinum by December 31, 2018 will be grandfathered into Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite status (notified January 2019).
FAQ from members.marriott.com
Q: CAN I EARN LIFETIME STATUS UNDER THE LEGACY REQUIREMENTS (ACTIVE PRIOR TO AUGUST 2018) FOR LIFETIME ELITE STATUS IN MARRIOTT REWARDS, RITZ-CARLTON REWARDS OR SPG? IF SO, WHEN WILL I BE NOTIFIED OF MY LIFETIME ELITE STATUS?
A: Yes, in addition to earning based on the new criteria, members can earn Lifetime Elite Status under the legacy requirements through the end of 2018. If Lifetime status is achieved by legacy requirements, between August and December 31, 2018 you will receive notice of your updated Lifetime Elite status in January 2019. If Lifetime status is achieved based on the new criteria, you will be notified both in August 2018 as well as any time it is achieved through the end of the year.
Example: An SPG member has 300 Lifetime nights, 4 years of Gold Elite Status, and 1 year of Platinum Elite Status after August, 2018. Under the SPG legacy Lifetime requirements, this member would earn Lifetime Gold Elite status which would reflect in their account January 2019.
Q: IF I WILL NOT BE GRANDFATHERED INTO LIFETIME PLATINUM PREMIER ELITE, WILL I HAVE THE ABILITY TO EARN INTO THIS LEVEL IN 2018?
A: Yes, members can earn Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite in 2018 if they achieve 750 Lifetime nights and 10 years at Platinum Elite status. This requirement is only for 2018 and will not be continued in future years. Members will receive notice of this Lifetime achievement in January 2019.
SPG Lifetime Platinums Can Now Qualify For Lifetime Titanium Status
Oct 4, 2018, 2:47 pm
#1081
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: YVR
Programs: AC*SE MM, Marriott Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 4,604
We may never know about honflyer's situation. As far as I am aware, no details were sent to us to review. I am already on record as saying that if you want to qualify for a year of Platinum using legacy SPG and legacy MR terms, then you should complete 50 nights at only SPG properties and 75 nights at only legacy MR properties before the end of the year. I'm fully aware that it was said that MR Golds would be mapped to Platinum in the new program due to past earning structure being equal to the nights required for earning Platinum in SPG, but I would not take the chance that this applies because we are speaking of earning by legacy MR rules, which were 75 nights, not 50.
- Does Marriott require an entire 365 of earned Platinum before counting it as a Platinum year? If so, those who are looking for LTPP by Dec 31, 2018 are screwed
- Will they do the math and apply the platinum year in December when they do what I believe they're referring to as the 'end of year true up'
- If it's #2 , then all should be fine, but in absence of an answer those getting 2 Platinum years across programs in 2018 are anxious as there is not an official answer to this.
I will likely merge my SPG account to my Marriott account in early December even if my year count is not fixed, because I'm concerned that they will due the 'true up' and LTPP at the same time.
Oct 13, 2018, 5:18 pm
#1082
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: LAX
Programs: UA1KMM SPGPLAT
Posts: 480
Spend isn't suppposed to start to show until you hit 50 nights, in your case presumably on the MR side since you haven't merged your accounts.
To get an Ambassador for next year, you need either 100+ nights in SPG legacy properties ONLY or 100+ combined nights and $20,000 combined spend, however Starriott defines spend in the new program.
To get an Ambassador for next year, you need either 100+ nights in SPG legacy properties ONLY or 100+ combined nights and $20,000 combined spend, however Starriott defines spend in the new program.
Oct 13, 2018, 5:44 pm
#1083
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: CEB - primary/YVR -secondary
Programs: AC*Super Elite (100K) / PR*Elite / AY*Platinum (OWE) / SPG*Bonvoy Titanium (LTT)
Posts: 2,270
Kicks in this year the 20k spend. Unless you have 100 nights at legacy SPG brands this year. If 100 SPG + MR nights then 20K needed this year
Oct 14, 2018, 10:16 am
#1084
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: LAX
Programs: UA1KMM SPGPLAT
Posts: 480
Thank you. This is the first I've heard of this as I always assumed this was a transition year with the programs being merged. While I will definitely hit the 100 nights (combined), it may be close for the spend requirement.
Oct 15, 2018, 2:17 am
#1085
Moderator, El Al and Marriott Bonvoy, FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: SIN
Programs: SQ*G, Mar LTT, Hyatt Glb, AA LTG, LY, HH, IC, BA, DL, UA SLV
Posts: 12,018
Will your 100 nights be a mix of legacy SPG and legacy Marriott?
Oct 15, 2018, 9:17 am
#1086
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: LAX
Programs: UA1KMM SPGPLAT
Posts: 480
Oct 15, 2018, 10:21 am
#1087
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 385
We may never know about honflyer's situation. As far as I am aware, no details were sent to us to review. I am already on record as saying that if you want to qualify for a year of Platinum using legacy SPG and legacy MR terms, then you should complete 50 nights at only SPG properties and 75 nights at only legacy MR properties before the end of the year. I'm fully aware that it was said that MR Golds would be mapped to Platinum in the new program due to past earning structure being equal to the nights required for earning Platinum in SPG, but I would not take the chance that this applies because we are speaking of earning by legacy MR rules, which were 75 nights, not 50.
There was such a rule in the terms and conditions for the legacy SPG program, but I cannot find a similar rule published in the current program terms and conditions. Also, IIRC, there was no such rule in the legacy MR program, so it appears that is the model that will be followed.
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Marriott International
[email protected]
There was such a rule in the terms and conditions for the legacy SPG program, but I cannot find a similar rule published in the current program terms and conditions. Also, IIRC, there was no such rule in the legacy MR program, so it appears that is the model that will be followed.
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Marriott International
[email protected]
I assume if Marriott is showing Platinum years earned in one program under both programs, then they will not double count the years as part of lifetime status requirements, but again, no one has been able to tell me exactly how many platinum years I have under Marriott alone w/out Starwood. Maybe what the app shows is correct, but with the IT issues, I'd like additional validation.
Thank you.
Oct 15, 2018, 12:18 pm
#1088
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: LGA/JFK/EWR
Programs: UA 1K1.75MM, Hyatt Globalist, abandoned Marriott LTT (RIP SPG), Hertz PC
Posts: 21,166
Thanks, William. One other question. I can't seem to get a consistent answer when I call wither SPG or Marriott about this... under Marriott, does the "Years as Platinum" section under Lifetime Status include only Marriott earned Platinum years or is it a combination of Marriott and Starwood Platinum years?
Oct 15, 2018, 12:36 pm
#1089
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 385
Is there anyway to get Marriott only plat years or at this point is it simply what they're showing less the SPG only number of plat years? In my case, that means I'm much further away from lifetime PP that I expected if this is true.
Oct 15, 2018, 12:37 pm
#1090
Company Representative - Starwood
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Austin, Texas
Programs: Marriott Employee Level
Posts: 31,593
Thanks, William. One other question. I can't seem to get a consistent answer when I call wither SPG or Marriott about this... under Marriott, does the "Years as Platinum" section under Lifetime Status include only Marriott earned Platinum years or is it a combination of Marriott and Starwood Platinum years?
I assume if Marriott is showing Platinum years earned in one program under both programs, then they will not double count the years as part of lifetime status requirements, but again, no one has been able to tell me exactly how many platinum years I have under Marriott alone w/out Starwood. Maybe what the app shows is correct, but with the IT issues, I'd like additional validation.
Thank you.
I assume if Marriott is showing Platinum years earned in one program under both programs, then they will not double count the years as part of lifetime status requirements, but again, no one has been able to tell me exactly how many platinum years I have under Marriott alone w/out Starwood. Maybe what the app shows is correct, but with the IT issues, I'd like additional validation.
Thank you.
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Marriott International
[email protected]
Oct 15, 2018, 12:38 pm
#1091
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 385
If you have combined your accounts, it would be showing a combination of the data from the two programs.
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Marriott International
[email protected]
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Marriott International
[email protected]
Oct 15, 2018, 12:43 pm
#1092
Company Representative - Starwood
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Austin, Texas
Programs: Marriott Employee Level
Posts: 31,593
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Marriott International
[email protected]
Oct 15, 2018, 1:29 pm
#1093
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: LGA/JFK/EWR
Programs: UA 1K1.75MM, Hyatt Globalist, abandoned Marriott LTT (RIP SPG), Hertz PC
Posts: 21,166
So you have 4 Plat years w/ Marriott and 9 w/ Starwood and the Marriott lifetime Plat shows combined 13?
Is there anyway to get Marriott only plat years or at this point is it simply what they're showing less the SPG only number of plat years? In my case, that means I'm much further away from lifetime PP that I expected if this is true.
Is there anyway to get Marriott only plat years or at this point is it simply what they're showing less the SPG only number of plat years? In my case, that means I'm much further away from lifetime PP that I expected if this is true.
My "Years as Gold or Platinum" is 13, which is right...but my "Years as Platinum" is also 13, which doesn't make any sense...but since I'm at/over 10 combined I don't really care.
Oct 18, 2018, 8:37 pm
#1094
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: SFO
Posts: 4,911
Lifetime Platinum Premier showing up online due to combined totals
Sometime in the last 72 hours my account now show lifetime Platinum Premier status upon login. Doesn’t show on App, but shows up on desktop. My account qualified as a result of the combined Marriott and SPG totals.
Oct 19, 2018, 1:31 am
#1095
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: +61
Programs: SQ*PPS, QF-WP1 & LTG, VA-Gold, Marriott*LTT, Hilton*Gold, Accor*Platinum
Posts: 5,735
So I logged in to check
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le sigh... Lifetime Platinum Elite.