May 9, 2018, 11:36 am
Last edit by: rny321
PATHWAYS TO LIFETIME PLATINUM PREMIER ELITE STATUS:
1. Legacy Marriott Lifetime Platinum - 750 [MR+SPG] nights & 2MM Marriott Rewards points earned - not available after 1/1/2019
2. New Combined Program - 750 [MR+SPG] nights & 10 years combined/total as Platinum members previously under MR and/or SPG as of 12/31/2018 - not available after 1/1/2019
From members.marriott.com:
NOTE: Members that reach 750 nights and 10 years at Platinum by December 31, 2018 will be grandfathered into Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite status (notified January 2019).
FAQ from members.marriott.com
Q: CAN I EARN LIFETIME STATUS UNDER THE LEGACY REQUIREMENTS (ACTIVE PRIOR TO AUGUST 2018) FOR LIFETIME ELITE STATUS IN MARRIOTT REWARDS, RITZ-CARLTON REWARDS OR SPG? IF SO, WHEN WILL I BE NOTIFIED OF MY LIFETIME ELITE STATUS?
A: Yes, in addition to earning based on the new criteria, members can earn Lifetime Elite Status under the legacy requirements through the end of 2018. If Lifetime status is achieved by legacy requirements, between August and December 31, 2018 you will receive notice of your updated Lifetime Elite status in January 2019. If Lifetime status is achieved based on the new criteria, you will be notified both in August 2018 as well as any time it is achieved through the end of the year.
Example: An SPG member has 300 Lifetime nights, 4 years of Gold Elite Status, and 1 year of Platinum Elite Status after August, 2018. Under the SPG legacy Lifetime requirements, this member would earn Lifetime Gold Elite status which would reflect in their account January 2019.
Q: IF I WILL NOT BE GRANDFATHERED INTO LIFETIME PLATINUM PREMIER ELITE, WILL I HAVE THE ABILITY TO EARN INTO THIS LEVEL IN 2018?
A: Yes, members can earn Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite in 2018 if they achieve 750 Lifetime nights and 10 years at Platinum Elite status. This requirement is only for 2018 and will not be continued in future years. Members will receive notice of this Lifetime achievement in January 2019.
1. Legacy Marriott Lifetime Platinum - 750 [MR+SPG] nights & 2MM Marriott Rewards points earned - not available after 1/1/2019
2. New Combined Program - 750 [MR+SPG] nights & 10 years combined/total as Platinum members previously under MR and/or SPG as of 12/31/2018 - not available after 1/1/2019
From members.marriott.com:
NOTE: Members that reach 750 nights and 10 years at Platinum by December 31, 2018 will be grandfathered into Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite status (notified January 2019).
FAQ from members.marriott.com
Q: CAN I EARN LIFETIME STATUS UNDER THE LEGACY REQUIREMENTS (ACTIVE PRIOR TO AUGUST 2018) FOR LIFETIME ELITE STATUS IN MARRIOTT REWARDS, RITZ-CARLTON REWARDS OR SPG? IF SO, WHEN WILL I BE NOTIFIED OF MY LIFETIME ELITE STATUS?
A: Yes, in addition to earning based on the new criteria, members can earn Lifetime Elite Status under the legacy requirements through the end of 2018. If Lifetime status is achieved by legacy requirements, between August and December 31, 2018 you will receive notice of your updated Lifetime Elite status in January 2019. If Lifetime status is achieved based on the new criteria, you will be notified both in August 2018 as well as any time it is achieved through the end of the year.
Example: An SPG member has 300 Lifetime nights, 4 years of Gold Elite Status, and 1 year of Platinum Elite Status after August, 2018. Under the SPG legacy Lifetime requirements, this member would earn Lifetime Gold Elite status which would reflect in their account January 2019.
Q: IF I WILL NOT BE GRANDFATHERED INTO LIFETIME PLATINUM PREMIER ELITE, WILL I HAVE THE ABILITY TO EARN INTO THIS LEVEL IN 2018?
A: Yes, members can earn Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite in 2018 if they achieve 750 Lifetime nights and 10 years at Platinum Elite status. This requirement is only for 2018 and will not be continued in future years. Members will receive notice of this Lifetime achievement in January 2019.
SPG Lifetime Platinums Can Now Qualify For Lifetime Titanium Status
Aug 13, 2018, 10:44 am
#751
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: YYZ
Programs: Marriott Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium, AC Elite, Airmiles Gold, Hertz Gold Plus Rewards
Posts: 785
From the new leaked terms and conditions (which could change)
4.3.c.ii – Platinum members are not guaranteed a suite upgrade even if suites are available. At The Ritz-Carlton, only Platinum Premier members will be considered for suite upgrades.
One of the first distinctions between Platinum and Platinum Premiere.
4.3.c.ii – Platinum members are not guaranteed a suite upgrade even if suites are available. At The Ritz-Carlton, only Platinum Premier members will be considered for suite upgrades.
One of the first distinctions between Platinum and Platinum Premiere.
Aug 13, 2018, 10:48 am
#752
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: BDU
Programs: DL:MM, Marriott:LTT
Posts: 8,779
And you realize what you quoted is only applicable to Ritz guests, right? So to the vast majority of us who are not staying at a Ritz what you quoted is a useless benefit and given my experience at Ritz hotels having any Marriott status will mean nothing. Ritz gives few UGs to begin with and the hotels I have been to tend to give them to frequent guests of the actual property, not the parent chain.
Last edited by CJKatl; Aug 13, 2018 at 10:56 am
Aug 13, 2018, 11:01 am
#753
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: BDU
Programs: DL:MM, Marriott:LTT
Posts: 8,779
Congrats then. Happy you got better UG preferece at a Ritz, where UGs are few and far between. You do realize the quote only applies to Ritz hotels as is stated in the quote, right? I do believe the SPG guests who had 750+ nights should be LTPP, but I thought that out of fairness, not out of a better UG order at the Ritz and am kinda surprised to find that was such a driving reason for some.
Aug 13, 2018, 11:34 am
#754
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: CA
Programs: AA PLT / MR LTPP 1/1/19 / Hilton Diamond
Posts: 540
You should be LTP immediately when you combine accounts, so you will get most of the benefits you would get with LTPP.
- Lounge Access: Yes
- Welcome Amenity/Breakfast: Yes
- Guaranteed Room Type: Yes
- UG Order: Nobody is clear how real a benefit this will be but you UG chances are probably just as low with either status.
- Points: Your losing a few points. Meh.
- 48 Hour Guaranty: Irrelevant, you already have a reservation.
Aug 13, 2018, 1:51 pm
#755
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: La Jolla, CA
Programs: Marriott Ambassador, Lifetime Titanium, Delta Plat, Hilton Diamond , Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 2,615
Here is one other Platinum Premier distinction I found:
Outside of the United States, Canada and Europe: Smoking/non-smoking preferences may also be given priority, based on availability; exact bed sizes may vary, and only Platinum Premier Elite Members will have guaranteed priority for their requested type of bed and room.
Outside of the United States, Canada and Europe: Smoking/non-smoking preferences may also be given priority, based on availability; exact bed sizes may vary, and only Platinum Premier Elite Members will have guaranteed priority for their requested type of bed and room.
Aug 13, 2018, 11:30 pm
#756
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
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Aug 13, 2018, 11:36 pm
#757
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Aug 14, 2018, 2:21 am
#758
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someone please correct me if i'm wrong but here is my understanding on ltpp status:
members who currently have 750+ marriott nights & 2mm mr points will become ltpp on august 18th, 2018....
members who reach 750+ marriott nights & 2mm mr points between august 18th - end of the year will have their status changed to ltpp in january, 2019....
members who currently have 750+ spg nights & 10+ years platinum will become ltpp on august 18th, 2018....
members who reach 750+ spg nights & 10+ years platinum between august 18th - end of the year will have their status changed to ltpp in january, 2019....
members who currently have combined spg/marriott 750+ nights & either 2mm mr points or combined 10+ years of either spg platinum or marriott gold/platinum will have their status changed to ltpp in january, 2019....
members who reach combined spg/marriott 750+ nights & either 2mm mr points or combined 10+ years of either spg platinum or marriott gold/platinum between august 18th - end of the year will have their status changed to ltpp in january, 2019....
members who currently have 750+ marriott nights & 2mm mr points will become ltpp on august 18th, 2018....
members who reach 750+ marriott nights & 2mm mr points between august 18th - end of the year will have their status changed to ltpp in january, 2019....
members who currently have 750+ spg nights & 10+ years platinum will become ltpp on august 18th, 2018....
members who reach 750+ spg nights & 10+ years platinum between august 18th - end of the year will have their status changed to ltpp in january, 2019....
members who currently have combined spg/marriott 750+ nights & either 2mm mr points or combined 10+ years of either spg platinum or marriott gold/platinum will have their status changed to ltpp in january, 2019....
members who reach combined spg/marriott 750+ nights & either 2mm mr points or combined 10+ years of either spg platinum or marriott gold/platinum between august 18th - end of the year will have their status changed to ltpp in january, 2019....
Aug 14, 2018, 7:09 am
#759
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someone please correct me if i'm wrong but here is my understanding on ltpp status:
members who currently have 750+ marriott nights & 2mm mr points will become ltpp on august 18th, 2018....
members who reach 750+ marriott nights & 2mm mr points between august 18th - end of the year will have their status changed to ltpp in january, 2019....
members who currently have 750+ spg nights & 10+ years platinum will become ltpp on august 18th, 2018....
members who reach 750+ spg nights & 10+ years platinum between august 18th - end of the year will have their status changed to ltpp in january, 2019....
members who currently have combined spg/marriott 750+ nights & either 2mm mr points or combined 10+ years of either spg platinum or marriott gold/platinum will have their status changed to ltpp in january, 2019....
members who reach combined spg/marriott 750+ nights & either 2mm mr points or combined 10+ years of either spg platinum or marriott gold/platinum between august 18th - end of the year will have their status changed to ltpp in january, 2019....
members who currently have 750+ marriott nights & 2mm mr points will become ltpp on august 18th, 2018....
members who reach 750+ marriott nights & 2mm mr points between august 18th - end of the year will have their status changed to ltpp in january, 2019....
members who currently have 750+ spg nights & 10+ years platinum will become ltpp on august 18th, 2018....
members who reach 750+ spg nights & 10+ years platinum between august 18th - end of the year will have their status changed to ltpp in january, 2019....
members who currently have combined spg/marriott 750+ nights & either 2mm mr points or combined 10+ years of either spg platinum or marriott gold/platinum will have their status changed to ltpp in january, 2019....
members who reach combined spg/marriott 750+ nights & either 2mm mr points or combined 10+ years of either spg platinum or marriott gold/platinum between august 18th - end of the year will have their status changed to ltpp in january, 2019....
This is my understanding too, although I wouldn't necessarily best on things working right on August 18th.
In a sense, it will be a downgrade in the middle of the year for current PPs who go from having a special unpublished invitation only status that requires 100+ nights for several consecutive years as well as a revenue requirement. They will now be grouped with those who currently do *only* 75 nights a year, including those who spend the 75 nights in 4Pts, etc.
In a sense, it will be a downgrade in the middle of the year for current PPs who go from having a special unpublished invitation only status that requires 100+ nights for several consecutive years as well as a revenue requirement. They will now be grouped with those who currently do *only* 75 nights a year, including those who spend the 75 nights in 4Pts, etc.
Aug 14, 2018, 7:25 am
#760
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: South Florida
Programs: AA LTG (EXP), Hilton Silver (Dia), Marriott LTP (PP), SPG LTG (P) > MPG LTPP
Posts: 11,329
This is my understanding too, although I wouldn't necessarily best on things working right on August 18th.
In a sense, it will be a downgrade in the middle of the year for current PPs who go from having a special unpublished invitation only status that requires 100+ nights for several consecutive years as well as a revenue requirement. They will now be grouped with those who currently do *only* 75 nights a year, including those who spend the 75 nights in 4Pts, etc.
In a sense, it will be a downgrade in the middle of the year for current PPs who go from having a special unpublished invitation only status that requires 100+ nights for several consecutive years as well as a revenue requirement. They will now be grouped with those who currently do *only* 75 nights a year, including those who spend the 75 nights in 4Pts, etc.
Aug 14, 2018, 8:08 am
#761
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: BDU
Programs: DL:MM, Marriott:LTT
Posts: 8,779
There is no evidence that Marriott has plans for another level and it makes no sense.
Aug 14, 2018, 8:11 am
#762
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: BDU
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This is my understanding too, although I wouldn't necessarily best on things working right on August 18th.
In a sense, it will be a downgrade in the middle of the year for current PPs who go from having a special unpublished invitation only status that requires 100+ nights for several consecutive years as well as a revenue requirement. They will now be groxcet uped with those who currently do *only* 75 nights a year, including those who spend the 75 nights in 4Pts, etc.
In a sense, it will be a downgrade in the middle of the year for current PPs who go from having a special unpublished invitation only status that requires 100+ nights for several consecutive years as well as a revenue requirement. They will now be groxcet uped with those who currently do *only* 75 nights a year, including those who spend the 75 nights in 4Pts, etc.
Aug 14, 2018, 8:12 am
#763
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Yesterday I skimmed through the posted "draft" T&Cs and noticed that it explicitly says that the new program can invite people to Ambassador status even if they don't meet the stated requirements. I didn't notice the same language about other status levels or for lifetime status, although I didn't look for it either.
Aug 14, 2018, 8:14 am
#764
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Let's not forget the anti-benefits, such as the front desk agents who are convinced that PP is lower than regular Plat status.
Aug 14, 2018, 8:29 am
#765
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Would that mean the Ambassador level has more than the top 3% and that some of those people will be singled out as extra special while some that are spending over $20k/year will not? And couldn't extra attention for very high level customers be quietly achieved through the Ambassador like it already likely is achieved instead of there needing to be a secret level? Or if the Ambassador level has fewer than 3% so some of the PPs will be singled out to be in a group that is not as special as the Ambassador level? Given MR did so little with the PP level and that there is a published higher level now with real benefits it makes no sense for them to develop any secret level.
There is no evidence that Marriott has plans for another level and it makes no sense.
There is no evidence that Marriott has plans for another level and it makes no sense.
They did it with PP in the first place, no one had, or has for that matter, any idea what it took to be in the top 3%. It's been long enough the marketing types may think it's a new thing to roll out. We have no idea what they will do. FT is full of speculation. Some comes true some doesn't.