Am I Expecting Too Much as a PLT
#17
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#18
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I don't do this often, but when I've got some need-based request on the room, I call ahead of time and speak to the front desk. The truth seems to work, as far as rationale. I'm two for two in the past several months. Be polite. Let them know it is a request, if it's possible, not something you demand as a Silver/Gold/Plat
Fair point, well made - as for the examples you state:
My view is simple - book & pay for what you NEED
An upgrade ought to be exactly that - more than you NEED
#19
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In well over 100 nights in ~75 unique check-ins over the past year, I've asked twice. If it cannot be done, I'm fine with that, but I'm not going to feel bad that, as a good Marriott customer, I've asked for this extra consideration about 3% of the time.
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I also have a data point to add. Stayed last minute at the CY Allen, TX last Friday on a cert (had been drinking, late night, and didn't want to drive 30 minutes). Didn't check in until midnight. I asked about getting an UG as a PLT, especially since it was so late in the night and it was unlikely a last minute revenue customer would come in and request a suite/junior suite. Check-in tried to UG for five minutes, but were unable. Apparently their system won't UG non-rev reservations. As I was dead tired, I just let is slide and took the room that was booked.
#21
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I agree... I'm knocking on the door to Lifetime PLT status. I call ahead and see if any upgrades available. I've gotten them at the MCO Marriott FS and the Gateway Marriott at DCA. It works! I don't expect it every time but I've had luck
#22
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Courtyard is a limited service brand, and really the in-stay benefits of Plat arbitrage best at FS.
Marriott has I think 17 brands, but 8 brands make up the vast majority of inventory. These separate into 3 types of hotel:
Limited Service
Fairfield Inn
Courtyard
Full Service
Marriott
JW Marriott
Renaissance
Autograph
Long Stay
Residence Inn
Townplace Suites
The principle benefits of Plat are split into 2 parts, the points which comprise of the arrival points and 50% bonus points. The second part is the in-stay benefits, room upgrade, lounge access, free breakfast. The problem for Plats is that, with the exception of room upgrades, the in-stay benefits only apply to the full service hotels.
Now since the long stays include breakfast as does the Bargain-brand Fairfield, you'll notice here that by default as a plat, the only brand that you don't get free breakfast at is the Courtyard. Furthermore, CYs (like FFI) generally don't have many suites, or indeed different types of rooms so there's not much to upgrade to.
As a result a lot of elites avoid CYs. I personally don't, though as a Brit we don't have that many. When I do consider them I weigh in the cost of breakfast and the benefit is get form the lounge and that usually makes the marginally cheaper CY the more expensive option. Over 600 nights at Marriott, and only 1 night at a CY!
So, yes, if you're expecting anything other than the extra points at Courtyard, you really are expecting too much!
Marriott has I think 17 brands, but 8 brands make up the vast majority of inventory. These separate into 3 types of hotel:
Limited Service
Fairfield Inn
Courtyard
Full Service
Marriott
JW Marriott
Renaissance
Autograph
Long Stay
Residence Inn
Townplace Suites
The principle benefits of Plat are split into 2 parts, the points which comprise of the arrival points and 50% bonus points. The second part is the in-stay benefits, room upgrade, lounge access, free breakfast. The problem for Plats is that, with the exception of room upgrades, the in-stay benefits only apply to the full service hotels.
Now since the long stays include breakfast as does the Bargain-brand Fairfield, you'll notice here that by default as a plat, the only brand that you don't get free breakfast at is the Courtyard. Furthermore, CYs (like FFI) generally don't have many suites, or indeed different types of rooms so there's not much to upgrade to.
As a result a lot of elites avoid CYs. I personally don't, though as a Brit we don't have that many. When I do consider them I weigh in the cost of breakfast and the benefit is get form the lounge and that usually makes the marginally cheaper CY the more expensive option. Over 600 nights at Marriott, and only 1 night at a CY!
So, yes, if you're expecting anything other than the extra points at Courtyard, you really are expecting too much!
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As a result a lot of elites avoid CYs. I personally don't, though as a Brit we don't have that many. When I do consider them I weigh in the cost of breakfast and the benefit is get form the lounge and that usually makes the marginally cheaper CY the more expensive option. Over 600 nights at Marriott, and only 1 night at a CY!
Last edited by CJKatl; Mar 4, 2015 at 11:00 am
#24
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Even as a plat, we prefer a nicer, newer Fairfield Inn over a Courtyard. Maybe just due to where I travel, but most of them are run down. Will either try to upgrade to a marriott or just go for the Fairfield, and get the free breakfast.
I have actually had better luck upgrading to the executive suites at Fairfield than any room at courtyards.
I have actually had better luck upgrading to the executive suites at Fairfield than any room at courtyards.
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Re: ROW, if a CY does offer something extra & FTers report it I add that CY propert(ies) to the exec lounge sticky. Because ROW it's more the exception than the norm there aren't too many but there are some.
Cheers.
#26
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And was put in to literally the worst, most poorly located, noisiest room (loud exterior noise) in the hotel.
...?
I have a note in to the GM, we'll see what kind of response I get.
Plus one item from the market.
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Why wait? Why don't you go to FD and ask for a different room? I don't mind not getting an upgrade (nice but not mandatory). However being put in a noisiest room is a big issue for me.
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Yes, you are right, I should have been more proactive, and given the hotel a chance to 'make it right'.
But I just wanted to go to bed.
I had made the reservation 3 weeks in advance. They knew I was coming and when (mobile check in).
Why reserve the absolute worst room in the hotel for me?
I don't get it.
#29
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Late, tired arrival. Early start the next day.
Yes, you are right, I should have been more proactive, and given the hotel a chance to 'make it right'.
But I just wanted to go to bed.
I had made the reservation 3 weeks in advance. They knew I was coming and when (mobile check in).
Why reserve the absolute worst room in the hotel for me?
I don't get it.
Yes, you are right, I should have been more proactive, and given the hotel a chance to 'make it right'.
But I just wanted to go to bed.
I had made the reservation 3 weeks in advance. They knew I was coming and when (mobile check in).
Why reserve the absolute worst room in the hotel for me?
I don't get it.
#30
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Courtyard is a limited service brand, and really the in-stay benefits of Plat arbitrage best at FS.
Marriott has I think 17 brands, but 8 brands make up the vast majority of inventory. These separate into 3 types of hotel:
Limited Service
Fairfield Inn
Courtyard
Full Service
Marriott
JW Marriott
Renaissance
Autograph
Long Stay
Residence Inn
Townplace Suites
The principle benefits of Plat are split into 2 parts, the points which comprise of the arrival points and 50% bonus points. The second part is the in-stay benefits, room upgrade, lounge access, free breakfast. The problem for Plats is that, with the exception of room upgrades, the in-stay benefits only apply to the full service hotels.
Now since the long stays include breakfast as does the Bargain-brand Fairfield, you'll notice here that by default as a plat, the only brand that you don't get free breakfast at is the Courtyard. Furthermore, CYs (like FFI) generally don't have many suites, or indeed different types of rooms so there's not much to upgrade to.
As a result a lot of elites avoid CYs. I personally don't, though as a Brit we don't have that many. When I do consider them I weigh in the cost of breakfast and the benefit is get form the lounge and that usually makes the marginally cheaper CY the more expensive option. Over 600 nights at Marriott, and only 1 night at a CY!
So, yes, if you're expecting anything other than the extra points at Courtyard, you really are expecting too much!
Marriott has I think 17 brands, but 8 brands make up the vast majority of inventory. These separate into 3 types of hotel:
Limited Service
Fairfield Inn
Courtyard
Full Service
Marriott
JW Marriott
Renaissance
Autograph
Long Stay
Residence Inn
Townplace Suites
The principle benefits of Plat are split into 2 parts, the points which comprise of the arrival points and 50% bonus points. The second part is the in-stay benefits, room upgrade, lounge access, free breakfast. The problem for Plats is that, with the exception of room upgrades, the in-stay benefits only apply to the full service hotels.
Now since the long stays include breakfast as does the Bargain-brand Fairfield, you'll notice here that by default as a plat, the only brand that you don't get free breakfast at is the Courtyard. Furthermore, CYs (like FFI) generally don't have many suites, or indeed different types of rooms so there's not much to upgrade to.
As a result a lot of elites avoid CYs. I personally don't, though as a Brit we don't have that many. When I do consider them I weigh in the cost of breakfast and the benefit is get form the lounge and that usually makes the marginally cheaper CY the more expensive option. Over 600 nights at Marriott, and only 1 night at a CY!
So, yes, if you're expecting anything other than the extra points at Courtyard, you really are expecting too much!