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tvetter01 Sep 2, 2009 8:51 am

I frequently see the LCD/Plasma TV's in full service, CY, and FI properties.

I rarely see any HD programming, which makes the TV's kind of a waste of money (unless the flat panel is saving a significant amount of space over a tube set).

VickiSoCal Sep 2, 2009 9:06 am


Originally Posted by tvetter01 (Post 12319151)
I rarely see any HD programming, which makes the TV's kind of a waste of money (unless the flat panel is saving a significant amount of space over a tube set).

And if they are using old style armoirs, flat screens don't really save space, so it may only be worth updating them when you replace the furniture.

DenverBrian Sep 2, 2009 12:15 pm


Originally Posted by ohmark (Post 12318939)
As in all of these money/economy debates in various threads, each property/brand has to weigh the savings versus the impact. How much revenue, short-term and long-term, will be lost versus how much savings will be generated. Some properties, I'm sure, are just worried about how to pay this month's bills. I would guess/hope that Marriott corporate would also factor in the long term impact of such decisions on the brands.

By the way, I think that any Renaissance or Marriott fs property that hadn't updated their televisions prior to the economic turndown was already late to the game.

Which is why i idly speculated on reasons why. Gave you a great excuse to slap me down. :D :D :D

DenverBrian Sep 2, 2009 12:17 pm


Originally Posted by tvetter01 (Post 12319151)
I frequently see the LCD/Plasma TV's in full service, CY, and FI properties.

I rarely see any HD programming, which makes the TV's kind of a waste of money (unless the flat panel is saving a significant amount of space over a tube set).

They may be saving energy over a tube set.

tvetter01 Sep 2, 2009 12:47 pm


Originally Posted by DenverBrian (Post 12320728)
They may be saving energy over a tube set.


Possible. I have no idea how much electricity they save over a regular TV. I would suspect that it's not enough to pay for the TV over any reasonable length of time, but I could certainly be wrong.

And if they were interested in saving electricity, the AC wouldn't be cranked down to 58 in the room every time I check in. I'm exaggerating, of course, but almost every room is pretty cold when I get there. I actually enjoy this, but energy efficient, it's not.

I have seen a couple of places where they're mounted on the walls, which is a nice space/counter saver, and I'm all for any space they can save in the rooms.

I wouldn't try to discourage Marriott from putting the flat panel TV's in every room, but I just don't see the benefit if you're going to cram it into the same armoir as the tube TV and not have HD programming. I'd just as soon not see the cost of that passed on through room rates.

ohmark Sep 2, 2009 1:38 pm


Originally Posted by DenverBrian (Post 12320728)
They may be saving energy over a tube set.

Or maybe not. LCD's use less energy than do CRT's of comparable size. But properties are replacing much smaller CRT's (20-27 inch) with larger LCD's (32-37 inch). The size increase serves to negate any savings of energy and, indeed, the larger-sized LCD's may use more energy than the smaller CRT's. http://www.sierraclub.org/howgreen/screen/answer.asp
(Disclaimer: Not meant as a "slap" to Brian.) ;)

VA1379 Sep 2, 2009 1:48 pm


Originally Posted by tvetter01 (Post 12319151)
I frequently see the LCD/Plasma TV's in full service, CY, and FI properties.

I rarely see any HD programming, which makes the TV's kind of a waste of money (unless the flat panel is saving a significant amount of space over a tube set).

I know in the past socrates or someone else on FT mentioned that there was a delay in getting the TVs changed to accept HD programming. I think it has to be done by property, and there was a waiting period to do that.

tvetter01 Sep 2, 2009 2:09 pm


Originally Posted by VA1379 (Post 12321342)
I know in the past socrates or someone else on FT mentioned that there was a delay in getting the TVs changed to accept HD programming. I think it has to be done by property, and there was a waiting period to do that.

If the reason they have the flat panel TV's sitting there displaying only non-HD programming is that they're in a queue to get the signal upgraded and that process is slower than we would like, then that seems reasonable enough.

Must be some line they're in, though. They've had the flat panels w/o HD programming for quite some time.

bigguyinpasadena Sep 2, 2009 2:20 pm

Whatever happned with the trumpeted system wide tech upgrade
 
This was suppose to have been completed three years ago.
And that was during an upswing in Marriotts fortunes.

Lied to once again-oh Marriott how could you :rolleyes:

navstarv Sep 5, 2009 8:34 pm

Only 269 full service left to install
 
Marriott's press release of 26 Feb 2007 stated they planned to have HD TV with the connectivity panel in all US and Canadian JW, full service Marriott and Ren. by the end of 2009. www.plugintomarriott.com shows the US has 163 of these 432 hotels already completed leaving just 269 properties left to do in the next 3 months.:D

Of course not all of the completed ones have HD programing on the HD screens.:td:

toothy Sep 6, 2009 2:28 am


Originally Posted by VickiSoCal (Post 12319265)
And if they are using old style armoirs, flat screens don't really save space, so it may only be worth updating them when you replace the furniture.

Spot on. A GM I was talking to last year was saying how he was building up the fund to refurbish the rooms including flat screen TVs. The reason for doing it all in one was because with flat screens you don't need a huge piece of furniture so you can take that out and make the room look larger overall. So it is part of larger process involving designers etc.

Unfortunately I haven't stayed there in a while so don't know if he managed to get the accountants sign off or not!


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