Newspaper Delivery Changes
#316
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First of all, Marriott hasn't officially pulled all newspapers out of all hotels, it's just stopped having the requirement to have them, and thus left it up to each hotel.
Second, I don't think airline lounges and hotels are comparable on this. Newspapers in airline lounges are often taken onto the plane, and read during take-off/climbing, when onboard WiFi is not available and thus there's no other way to read a newspaper other than a physical copy (unless you managed to get the whole newspaper downloaded onto your laptop or mobile device beforehand, not just one or two articles, but AFAIK that's not possible with most online). But hotels don't have the same issue that people can't access WiFi.
Second, I don't think airline lounges and hotels are comparable on this. Newspapers in airline lounges are often taken onto the plane, and read during take-off/climbing, when onboard WiFi is not available and thus there's no other way to read a newspaper other than a physical copy (unless you managed to get the whole newspaper downloaded onto your laptop or mobile device beforehand, not just one or two articles, but AFAIK that's not possible with most online). But hotels don't have the same issue that people can't access WiFi.
As to wifi, while it's true, as you mention, that one can carry a paper paper onto the plane for when there's no wifi, it's also true that one can read a paper paper in your hotel room, when you don't have a computer or smart phone. That's right; hard as it is to believe, some folks don't carry a laptop, smartphone, or tablet with them. Folks who don't read print newspapers, apparently don't want anybody else reading them either (or at least Marriott providing them to customers who want to read them). Who's ready to join the battle against breakfast and upgrades?
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First of all, Marriott hasn't officially pulled all newspapers out of all hotels, it's just stopped having the requirement to have them, and thus left it up to each hotel.
Second, I don't think airline lounges and hotels are comparable on this. Newspapers in airline lounges are often taken onto the plane, and read during take-off/climbing, when onboard WiFi is not available and thus there's no other way to read a newspaper other than a physical copy (unless you managed to get the whole newspaper downloaded onto your laptop or mobile device beforehand, not just one or two articles, but AFAIK that's not possible with most online). But hotels don't have the same issue that people can't access WiFi.
Second, I don't think airline lounges and hotels are comparable on this. Newspapers in airline lounges are often taken onto the plane, and read during take-off/climbing, when onboard WiFi is not available and thus there's no other way to read a newspaper other than a physical copy (unless you managed to get the whole newspaper downloaded onto your laptop or mobile device beforehand, not just one or two articles, but AFAIK that's not possible with most online). But hotels don't have the same issue that people can't access WiFi.
Regardless, hotels can easily recoup the cost of the newspapers by adding 50 cents or whatever the discounted rate for bulk sales happens to be to the rate guests pay. For example, this is one of the amenities that a resort fee at resorts should cover.
While newspapers are complimentary at many British hotels, regardless of brand or star rating, other hotels will order any newspaper you want the night before from the local distributor (Brits call them "news agents") and then charge you for it.
I've had other hotels, like in Lisbon, Portugal, send the bellman out and buy me a weekend edition of the Financial Times on a Saturday morning.
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If you've been reading the thread, you know that it's sounding like more and more Marriott properties are dropping print newspapers.
As to wifi, while it's true, as you mention, that one can carry a paper paper onto the plane for when there's no wifi, it's also true that one can read a paper paper in your hotel room, when you don't have a computer or smart phone. That's right; hard as it is to believe, some folks don't carry a laptop, smartphone, or tablet with them. Folks who don't read print newspapers, apparently don't want anybody else reading them either (or at least Marriott providing them to customers who want to read them). Who's ready to join the battle against breakfast and upgrades?
As to wifi, while it's true, as you mention, that one can carry a paper paper onto the plane for when there's no wifi, it's also true that one can read a paper paper in your hotel room, when you don't have a computer or smart phone. That's right; hard as it is to believe, some folks don't carry a laptop, smartphone, or tablet with them. Folks who don't read print newspapers, apparently don't want anybody else reading them either (or at least Marriott providing them to customers who want to read them). Who's ready to join the battle against breakfast and upgrades?
#319
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... and it seems that particular demographic is still in the "newspaper" mindset. I say give it a few years (then these folks will get their brief mention in the paper, bringing it full circle) and then nobody else will care.
I couldn't care less, but I don't want to have to pay even one red cent for something I haven't picked up in two decades and is obsolete the millisecond it comes off the press.
Folks who don't read print newspapers, apparently don't want anybody else reading them either
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Print, be it newspapers, magazines or books, is not dying. Yes, there's less of it, but many of those that remain are doing quite well.
#322
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What's the etiquette if the property you are staying at has just one or 2 copies of a few major papers each displayed on racks in the lobby and/or lounge? Is one expected to return the paper to said rack when they are done with it or is acceptable to take it back to your room or out with you for the day? I like to read the paper copy every once in a while but I'm not going to sit in the lobby to do so.
#323
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The CEO of the New York Times disagreed recently. After announcing quarterly results, which showed abysmal print numbers, he said his company is making plans for moving forward when "print is over" which he predicted might be in under ten years. Newsweek will likely finish its complete collapse by week's end, although it is no longer printed. Rolling Stone was just sold for what was reported to be a bargain basement price. Textbooks, long a source of print profit, are moving online. Which are the companies that are doing quite well?
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The CEO of the New York Times disagreed recently. After announcing quarterly results, which showed abysmal print numbers, he said his company is making plans for moving forward when "print is over" which he predicted might be in under ten years. Newsweek will likely finish its complete collapse by week's end, although it is no longer printed. Rolling Stone was just sold for what was reported to be a bargain basement price. Textbooks, long a source of print profit, are moving online. Which are the companies that are doing quite well?
Newspapers: https://www.cjr.org/special_report/p...g_comeback.php
Advertising: Print Isn?t Dead! These 7 Great Ads Showed the Medium at Its Best in 2017 ? Adweek
Books: https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...=.96b7e0b61382
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What's the etiquette if the property you are staying at has just one or 2 copies of a few major papers each displayed on racks in the lobby and/or lounge? Is one expected to return the paper to said rack when they are done with it or is acceptable to take it back to your room or out with you for the day? I like to read the paper copy every once in a while but I'm not going to sit in the lobby to do so.
#326
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Print media that delivers content readers want -- content they can't get elsewhere -- isn't dead.
Newspapers: https://www.cjr.org/special_report/p...g_comeback.php
Advertising: Print Isn?t Dead! These 7 Great Ads Showed the Medium at Its Best in 2017 ? Adweek
Books: https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...=.96b7e0b61382
Newspapers: https://www.cjr.org/special_report/p...g_comeback.php
Advertising: Print Isn?t Dead! These 7 Great Ads Showed the Medium at Its Best in 2017 ? Adweek
Books: https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...=.96b7e0b61382
#327
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OT: The company mentioned has print facilities in southern central PA in northwest MD, which are near to each other. There is another town in central PA which used to be known as the only town with two paper mills, Roaring Springs PA. One of them, which was owned by Appvion, may have just been rescued from bankruptcy. the company has other operations throughout the country. It was employee owned but now the employees have nothing. As print disappears, paper mills become obsolete and close.
OT OT: For those unaware, paper mills create a stink which carries for miles. Residents become nose blind. As a kid, when we would drive through the town, which we did frequently as it was on the way to the airport and all points south, like DC where my mom's sisters lived, my parents would give each kid a piece or Trident, which we would unwrap, stick under our noses and breathe through until we were out of the town, at which point we could chew the gum.
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I logged into the Marriott U.K. website today, as it works better than the U.S. website. I noticed the newspaper options have changed, yet again.
I always had the newspaper request in my Marriott profile. Now, my Marriott profile was set to "no delivery." I changed it back to The Wall Street Journal. The other two options were USA Today and a "local paper."
Interestingly, it included verbiage clarifying exemptions to the newspaper amenity. I had never seen that before. Hopefully, this image works:
I always had the newspaper request in my Marriott profile. Now, my Marriott profile was set to "no delivery." I changed it back to The Wall Street Journal. The other two options were USA Today and a "local paper."
Interestingly, it included verbiage clarifying exemptions to the newspaper amenity. I had never seen that before. Hopefully, this image works:
#329
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I logged into the Marriott U.K. website today, as it works better than the U.S. website. I noticed the newspaper options have changed, yet again.
I always had the newspaper request in my Marriott profile. Now, my Marriott profile was set to "no delivery." I changed it back to The Wall Street Journal. The other two options were USA Today and a "local paper."
Interestingly, it included verbiage clarifying exemptions to the newspaper amenity. I had never seen that before. Hopefully, this image works:
I always had the newspaper request in my Marriott profile. Now, my Marriott profile was set to "no delivery." I changed it back to The Wall Street Journal. The other two options were USA Today and a "local paper."
Interestingly, it included verbiage clarifying exemptions to the newspaper amenity. I had never seen that before. Hopefully, this image works:
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1. Click "My Account" drop-down menu in the upper right-hand corner.
2. Click "Account Overview"
3. Click "Profile"
4. Scroll down.
5. Under "Personalize Your Stay" click "Edit"
It also gives me the option to select a refrigerator. I've never seen that option before.