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sophiegirl Mar 14, 2009 3:53 am

As the original question posted in this thread was answered posts and posts ago....

As this thread is turning into a duplicate of CL downgrading thread....

Perhaps it is time to merge the two???

Somewhere buried in the Marriott forum is one or more threads on Corporate Rates, and endless debates on whether it is honorable to use them for personal travel, or if you don't work for the company, etc etc etc. The bottom line on that thread (is that) you either believe it is OK or you do not.

Same with this one. You are either in the "Marriott is cutting bennies when others are not" camp OR the " it is a tough economy and I think they are right" camp. Quite clear the 2 sides will never meet....so the "debate" is getting rather circular.....

TrojanHorse Mar 14, 2009 7:32 am


Originally Posted by sophiegirl (Post 11411995)
As the original question posted in this thread was answered posts and posts ago....

As this thread is turning into a duplicate of CL downgrading thread....

Perhaps it is time to merge the two???

Somewhere buried in the Marriott forum is one or more threads on Corporate Rates, and endless debates on whether it is honorable to use them for personal travel, or if you don't work for the company, etc etc etc. The bottom line on that thread (is that) you either believe it is OK or you do not.

Same with this one. You are either in the "Marriott is cutting bennies when others are not" camp OR the " it is a tough economy and I think they are right" camp. Quite clear the 2 sides will never meet....so the "debate" is getting rather circular.....

boldfaced mine

this thread was about Occ Rates and hence should not be merged; whether it has gone off topic or not is another debate

but if you are no longer interested in the debate; just don't click

bdschobel Mar 14, 2009 7:53 am

I am as unhappy as anybody about Concierge Lounge closings and downgrades of services provided. I probably spend about as much time in those lounges as anybody here. But it's unfair to participants on the Marriott board to allow discussions of Concierge Lounges to permeate and pervade every thread on every topic, related or not. Let's keep those discussions where they belong. I'm going to start deleting off-topic posts without comment. They will simply disappear.

Bruce
Moderator

tfred Mar 14, 2009 8:01 am


Originally Posted by bdschobel (Post 11412467)
I am as unhappy as anybody about Concierge Lounge closings and downgrades of services provided. I probably spend about as much time in those lounges as anybody here. But it's unfair to participants on the Marriott board to allow discussions of Concierge Lounges to permeate and pervade every thread on every topic, related or not. Let's keep those discussions where they belong. I'm going to start deleting off-topic posts without comment. They will simply disappear.

Bruce
Moderator

+1

The thread(s) are turning into the 2009 equivalent of the "why can't I get a suite everytime I check in as an upgrade" of a few years ago. That was the answer to every Marriott "question" back then

Plus - some of the retorts are getting downright nasty

holtju2 Mar 14, 2009 8:11 am


Originally Posted by tfred (Post 11412496)
The thread(s) are turning into the 2009 equivalent of the "why can't I get a suite everytime I check in as an upgrade" of a few years ago. That was the answer to every Marriott "question" back then

Probably those (as I have) have moved most of their stays to IC's or SPG properties where suites are confirmed upgrades to their top tiers.

You can continue the oatmeal discussion here on the Marriott forum! LOL.

ohmark Mar 14, 2009 8:58 pm


Originally Posted by tfred (Post 11412496)
+1

The thread(s) are turning into the 2009 equivalent of the "why can't I get a suite everytime I check in as an upgrade" of a few years ago. That was the answer to every Marriott "question" back then

Plus - some of the retorts are getting downright nasty

At the risk of joining you in going OT, to my recollection there was never a thread dealing with the subject you state. There were, however, numerous threads dealing with the subject of the Marriott promise (at that time) of upgrading plats and golds to "our finest available accomodations", but maintaining a secret policy not to upgrade to suites. Marriott, of course, eventually put its secret policy into writing.

socrates Mar 15, 2009 5:48 am


Originally Posted by sophiegirl (Post 11411995)
Somewhere buried in the Marriott forum is one or more threads on Corporate Rates, and endless debates on whether it is honorable to use them for personal travel, or if you don't work for the company, etc etc etc. The bottom line on that thread (is that) you either believe it is OK or you do not.

Yes 99% of the time it's ok to use a special corporate rate for personal business however as always there are some exceptions (sorry I must have missed that thread)

tfred Mar 15, 2009 8:36 am


Originally Posted by ohmark (Post 11415257)
At the risk of joining you in going OT, to my recollection there was never a thread dealing with the subject you state. There were, however, numerous threads dealing with the subject of the Marriott promise (at that time) of upgrading plats and golds to "our finest available accomodations", but maintaining a secret policy not to upgrade to suites. Marriott, of course, eventually put its secret policy into writing.

i dont disagree with your (and others ) concern at that time, on that issue. Same here with the CL issue.

But the suite, and now this CL answer, is the "Mad Libs" response for seemingly every thread of any consequence. If people want to discuss it - fine. But it cant be the over reaching topic of every thread

TrojanHorse Mar 15, 2009 11:04 am


Originally Posted by bdschobel (Post 11412467)
I am as unhappy as anybody about Concierge Lounge closings and downgrades of services provided. I probably spend about as much time in those lounges as anybody here. But it's unfair to participants on the Marriott board to allow discussions of Concierge Lounges to permeate and pervade every thread on every topic, related or not. Let's keep those discussions where they belong. I'm going to start deleting off-topic posts without comment. They will simply disappear.

Bruce
Moderator

well the answer has been made anyway

those stating these OR's are talking out their behind

ohmark Mar 15, 2009 3:16 pm


Originally Posted by tfred (Post 11416567)
i dont disagree with your (and others ) concern at that time, on that issue. Same here with the CL issue.

But the suite, and now this CL answer, is the "Mad Libs" response for seemingly every thread of any consequence. If people want to discuss it - fine. But it cant be the over reaching topic of every thread

I don't disagree.

SkiAdcock Mar 16, 2009 12:57 am

Just a reminder - the topic was this. See below highlighted.

If some non-employees have some input, ante it up. But I think the one who says everyone tells him everything & they're all accurate is talking to the hand a bit ;)) The lounge downgrade issues can be covered in THAT thread, so no need to merge.

So far I haven't seen it answered by too many non-employees, which probably means most guests don't ask (which is what I would guess is the norm). And those who do are either asking for a specific reason or just stay at a particular property a lot & might note it.

"Occupancy Rate Question

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

How do all of you guys who throw out occupancy rates.. ie.. 35% OR; 16% OR etc.. know this?????

do they actually come out and disclose this to you during your stay?

it seems a bit bizarre to me that a property would do this? I would think its proprietary information "


Cheers.

socrates Mar 16, 2009 6:03 am


Originally Posted by SkiAdcock (Post 11419971)
So far I haven't seen it answered by too many non-employees, which probably means most guests don't ask (which is what I would guess is the norm).

Yes you are correct, mosts dont ask and honestly I doubt they would even give it much thought


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