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2. London's Marriotts:
Marriott's London search page (https://www.marriott.com/hotel-searc...dom.travel.40/) identifies 29 properties as "in London":
  • 11 properties are between 9 and 36 miles (14 and 56 km) outside of London: largest concentration are near Heathrow Airport (LHR): 3 (London Heathrow Marriott, Renaissance London Heathrow, Heathrow/Windsor Marriott) + 1 (London Marriott Twickenham)
  • 3 properties are in West India Quay and London City Airport (London Marriott West India Quay, Marriott Executive Apartments London West India Quay and MOXY London Excel (opened in March 2017))
  • 1 property will be opening in Stratford (6+ miles (10 km) away from Central London): MOXY London Stratford (scheduled to open in July 2017)
  • 14 properties are within 2.5 miles (4 km) of London's City Center

3. Property Statistics: (to be updated after MOXY London Stratford opens)
  • Total Rooms and Suites: 5859 rooms and 419 suites across 28 properties
  • Marriott Brands: 17 Marriotts, 3 Autograph Collection, 2 Renaissance, 1 each of: EDITION, JW Marriott, Marriott Vacation Club, Marriott Executive Apartments, MOXY (March 2017), Courtyard
  • 2016 Category Tiers: 1 Tier 3, 7 Category 9, 4 Category 8, 4 Category 7, 6 Category 6, 3 Category 5 and 1 Category 4
  • 2017 Category Tiers: 1 Tier 4 (EDITION up 1), 7 Category 9, 4 Category 8, 3 Category 7, 6 Category 6 (Twickenham down 1), 3 Category 5 (Ren LHR down 1) and 2 Category 4 (Cheshunt down 1)
  • Concierge Lounges: 13 properties have Concierge Lounges/Executive Lounge/Chambers Club
  • Room Conditions: 7 properties have their rooms renovated or are new properties since 2015, 3 were remodeled in 2013 with the rest having renovation dates that go from 2010 back to 2001 (according to Marriott's posted data) and two with no remodel data (Grosvenor House and St. Pancras)
  • Numbers of Rooms: Average number of rooms across the 28 properties is 209 / Median is 182; largest room count is Renaissance Heathrow (703); other properties with room counts higher than the average include: Grosvenor House (420), London Heathrow (391), Heathrow/Windsor (376), Regents Park (305); smallest room counts are: Marriott Executive Apartments London, West India Quay (47 suites), Grand Residences by Marriott - Mayfair-London (49), Threadneedles (66), Hotel Xenia (98)
  • Suites: Largest number of suites: Grosvenor House (76), Marriott Executive Apartments London, West India Quay (47), St. Ermin's (41), St. Pancras (38); On a percentage basis (suites vs. rooms), not including the Executive Apartments, Park Lane has the highest (23%), followed by Grosvenor House (18%), St. Pancras (18%), St. Ermin's (14%)
  • Very Unlikely Upgrades: Properties with few, if any suites and their suites vs. room percentages: Marble Arch (0 / 0%), Hotel Xenia (1 / 1%), Tudor Park (1 / 1%), London Heathrow (2 / 1%), Regents Park (3 / 1%), Bexleyheath (4 / 3%), Waltham Abbey (4 / 3%), Heathrow/Windsor (6 / 2%), Kensington (6 / 3%), Renaissance Heathrow (7 / 1%)

4. Individual Marriott Properties in London, England:
List is sorted from closest to the center of London outward (as provided by Marriott's web site):

Note: Information about Concierge/Executive Lounge status and hours for London properties is located in the Domestic & International Executive Lounges Open/Closed on Weekends Master Thread - search on England/United Kingdom or London.

The London EDITION | Hotel Web Page | Fact Sheet | 10 Berners Street, London, England W1T 3NP
Stats: 7 floors, 173 rooms (%Suites: 0%) | no CL | Category: Tier 4 | Built: 2013 | Last Remodel: 2013 (opened)
Thread: London Edition Hotel -- Opened October 2013 (current)

London Marriott Hotel Grosvenor Square | Hotel Web Page | Fact Sheet | Grosvenor Square, London, England W1K 6JP
Stats: 6 floors, 217 rooms, 20 suites (%Suites: 9%) | Concierge Lounge: yes (Executive Lounge) | Category: 9 | Built: 1964 | Last Remodel: 2011
Thread: <no thread>

Grand Residences by Marriott - Mayfair-London | Hotel Web Page | Fact Sheet | 47 Park Street, London, England W1K 7EB
Stats: 7 floors, 49 rooms (%Suites: 0%) | no CL | Category: Marriott Vacation Club | Built: 1926 | Last Remodel: 2015
Thread: (stale) 47 Park Street, London (last post: October 24, 2005 - thread focus is on eliminating award option at property)

London Marriott Hotel Park Lane | Hotel Web Page | Fact Sheet | 140 Park Lane, London, England W1K 7AA
Stats: 5 floors, 124 rooms, 28 suites (%Suites: 23%) | Concierge Lounge: yes | Category: 9 | Built: 1919 | Last Remodel: 2015
Thread: London Marriott Park Lane (current)

Grosvenor House, A JW Marriott Hotel | Hotel Web Page | Fact Sheet | 86-90 Park Lane, London, England W1K 7TN
Stats: 8 floors, 420 rooms, 76 suites (%Suites: 18%) | Concierge Lounge: yes | Category: 9 | Built: 1929 | Last Remodel: Currently renovating rooms; public areas 2016
Thread: JW Marriott Grosvenor House (London, UK) Trip Reports (current)

London Marriott Hotel Marble Arch | Hotel Web Page | Fact Sheet | 134 George Street, London, England W1H 5DN
Stats: 12 floors, 240 rooms (%Suites: 0%) | Concierge Lounge: yes | Category: 9 | Built: 1972 | Last Remodel: 2008
Thread: (stale) Marriott Marble Arch London (last post: October 18, 2013)

St. Ermin's Hotel, Autograph Collection | Hotel Web Page | Fact Sheet | 2 Caxton Street London, England SW1H 0QW
Stats: 6 floors, 290 rooms, 41 suites (%Suites: 14%) | no CL | Category: 8 | Built: 1887 | Last Remodel: 2010
Thread: St. Ermin's Hotel, Autograph Collection - London, UK (current)

St. Pancras Renaissance Hotel London | Hotel Web Page | Fact Sheet | Euston Road, London, England NW1 2AR
Stats: 7 floors, 207 rooms, 38 suites (%Suites: 18%) | Concierge Lounge: yes (Chambers Club) | Category: 9 | Built: 1873 | Last Remodel: 2011 (opened)
Thread: Renaissance St. Pancras - London (Opened 2011) (current)

London Marriott Hotel County Hall | Hotel Web Page | Fact Sheet | Westminster Bridge Road, London, England SE1 7PB
Stats: 6 floors, 192 rooms, 14 suites (%Suites: 7%) | Concierge Lounge: yes | Category: 9 | Built: 1922 | Last Remodel: 2016
Thread: London Marriott Hotel County Hall (current)

London Marriott Hotel Regents Park | Hotel Web Page | Fact Sheet | 128 King Henry's Road, London, England NW3 3ST
Stats: 7 floors, 305 rooms, 3 suites (%Suites: 1%) | Concierge Lounge: yes | Category: 8 | Built: 1973 | Last Remodel: 2016
Thread: Regents Park Marriott Trip Reports (current)

London Marriott Hotel Maida Vale | Hotel Web Page | Fact Sheet | Plaza Parade, Maida Vale London, England NW6 5RP
Stats: 7 floors, 226 rooms, 11 suites (%Suites: 5%) | Concierge Lounge: yes | Category: 7 | Built: 1996 | Last Remodel: 2016
Thread: London Marriott Maida Vale (current)

Threadneedles, Autograph Collection | Hotel Web Page | Fact Sheet | 5 Threadneedle Street, London, England EC2R 8AY
Stats: 5 floors, 66 rooms, 8 suites (%Suites: 12%) | no CL | Category: 9 | Built: 2002 | Last Remodel: 2013
Thread: Threadneedles, Autograph Collection (London, UK) (last post: February 7, 2015)

London Marriott Hotel Kensington | Hotel Web Page | Fact Sheet | 147c Cromwell Road, Kensington, London, England SW5 0TH
Stats: 7 floors, 210 rooms, 6 suites (%Suites: 3%) | Concierge Lounge: yes | Category: 8 | Built: 1969 | Last Remodel: 2003
Thread: London Marriott Hotel Kensington (current)

Hotel Xenia, Autograph Collection | Hotel Web Page | Fact Sheet | 160 Cromwell Road, Kensington, London, England SW5 0TL
Stats: 6 floors, 98 rooms, 1 suite (%Suites: 1%) | no CL | Category: 8 | Built: 2013 | Last Remodel: 2013 (opened)
Thread: Hotel Xenia, Autograph Collection - London, England (current)

London Marriott Hotel West India Quay | Hotel Web Page | Fact Sheet | 22 Hertsmere Road, Canary Wharf, London, England E14 4ED
Stats: 8 floors, 279 rooms, 22 suites (%Suites: 8%) | Concierge Lounge: yes | Category: 7 | Built: 2004 | Last Remodel: 2004 (opened)
Thread: Trip report London Marriott West India Quay (current)

Marriott Executive Apartments London, West India Quay | Hotel Web Page | Fact Sheet | 22 Hertsmere Road, Canary Wharf, London, England E14 4ED
Stats: 4 floors, 47 suites (%Suites: 100%) | no CL | Category: earn only | Built: 2004 | Last Remodel: 2004 (opened)
Thread: <no thread>

MOXY London Stratford | Hotel Web Page | Fact Sheet | 86 Great Eastern Road London, England E15 1GR
Stats: 7 floors, 273 rooms, 21 suites (%Suites: 8%) | no CL | Category: TBD | Built: 2017 (in construction) | Last Remodel: 2017 (opening)
Thread: <no thread>

MOXY London Excel | Hotel Web Page | Fact Sheet | 1014 Dockside Road, London, England E16 2FQ
Stats: 6 floors, 148 rooms, 16 suites (%Suites: 11%) | no CL | Category: 6 | Built: 2017 | Last Remodel: 2017 (opening)
Thread: Moxy London Excel - UK (current)

London Marriott Hotel Twickenham | Hotel Web Page | Fact Sheet | 198 Whitton Road, Twickenham, England TW2 7BA
Stats: 3 floors, 144 rooms, 12 suites (%Suites: 8%) | no CL | Category: 6 | Built: 2007 | Last Remodel: 2007 (opened)
Thread: <no thread>

London Heathrow Marriott Hotel | Hotel Web Page | Fact Sheet | Bath Road, Heathrow Airport Hayes, England UB3 5AN
Stats: 5 floors, 391 rooms, 2 suites (%Suites: 1%) | Concierge Lounge: yes | Category: 7 | Built: 1998 | Last Remodel: 2007
Thread: Marriott-family hotels at London Heathrow Airport (current)

Renaissance London Heathrow Hotel | Hotel Web Page | Fact Sheet | Bath Road, Hounslow, England TW6 2AQ
Stats: 4 floors, 703 rooms, 7 suites (%Suites: 1%) | Concierge Lounge: yes | Category: 5 | Built: 1973 | Last Remodel: 2015
Threads: Renaissance London Heathrow Hotel no longer a dump (current) and Marriott-family hotels at London Heathrow Airport (current)

Bexleyheath Marriott Hotel | Hotel Web Page | Fact Sheet | 1 Broadway, Bexleyheath, England DA6 7JZ
Stats: 5 floors, 138 rooms, 4 suites (%Suites: 3%) | no CL | Category: 5 | Built: 1992 | Last Remodel: 2005
Thread: <no thread>

Waltham Abbey Marriott Hotel | Hotel Web Page | Fact Sheet | Old Shire Lane, Waltham Abbey, England EN93LX
Stats: 2 floors, 158 rooms, 4 suites (%Suites: 3%) | no CL | Category: 5 | Built: 1988 | Last Remodel: 2007
Thread: <no thread>

Cheshunt Marriott Hotel | Hotel Web Page | Fact Sheet | Halfhide Lane, Turnford, Broxbourne, England EN10 6NG
Stats: 3 floors, 131 rooms, 12 suites (%Suites: 9%) | no CL | Category: 4 | Built: 1991 | Last Remodel: 2005
Thread: <no thread>

Heathrow/Windsor Marriott Hotel | Hotel Web Page | Fact Sheet | Ditton Road, Langley Slough, England SL3 8PT
Stats: 5 floors, 376 rooms, 6 suites (%Suites: 2%) | Concierge Lounge: yes | Category: 6 | Built: 1973 | Last Remodel: 2008
Thread: (stale) Windsor Marriott and LHR (last post: August 21, 2008) and Marriott-family hotels at London Heathrow Airport (current)

Hanbury Manor Marriott Hotel & Country Club | Hotel Web Page | Fact Sheet | Ware Hertfordshire, England SG12 0SD
Stats: 4 floors, 149 rooms, 12 suites (%Suites: 8%) | no CL | Category: 6 | Built: 1901 | Last Remodel: 2001
Thread: (stale) London Hanbury Manor accessable? (last post: June 15, 2008)

Lingfield Park Marriott Hotel & Country Club | Hotel Web Page | Fact Sheet | Racecourse Road, Lingfield, England RH7 6PQ
Stats: 4 floors, 110 rooms, 6 suites (%Suites: 5%) | no CL | Category: 6 | Built: 2010 | Last Remodel: 2010 (opened)
Thread: <no thread>

Courtyard London Gatwick Airport | Hotel Web Page | Fact Sheet | London Gatwick Airport, Buckingham Gate Gatwick, England RH6 0NT
Stats: 5 floors, 196 rooms, 22 suites (%Suites: 11%) | no CL | Category: 4 | Built: 2009 | Last Remodel: 2009 (opened)
Thread: London Gatwick Courtyard: Worst Stay Ever (current)

Tudor Park Marriott Hotel & Country Club | Hotel Web Page | Fact Sheet | Ashford Road, Bearsted Maidstone, England ME14 4NQ
Stats: 2 floors, 119 rooms, 1 suite (%Suites: 1%) | no CL | Category: 6 | Built: 1987 | Last Remodel: 2008
Thread: (stale) Marriott Tudor Park in Maidstone, UK (last post: November 24, 2013)
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Old May 12, 17, 7:27 pm
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Originally Posted by BrightlyBob View Post
The 3 seminal Marriott properties in London are:

The Grosvenor House JW is well up to JW standards, you'll find it frequently mentioned alongside Claridges, the Ritz, The Goring, Browns and The Savoy as one of Londons grand hotels. It's not really up to those standards, but, then again it's usually a lot cheaper than any of them. I reckon it's one of the finest places you'll stay on Marriott money.
I would largely agree, though the J.W. Marriott in Dubai -- the world's tallest hotel -- has incredible service and staff. Outside of Asia and some Ritz-Carlton properties, I would agree that this is the best hotel in the Marriott property. It's really too bad there are so many dumpy Holiday Inn-esque Marriott properties, as there really is no brand consistency anymore between a Marriott or J.W. Marriott in Asia and one in the United States.

Originally Posted by BrightlyBob View Post
Marriott County Hall has just completed a major top-to-toe refurbishment and I will be able to update on it later this month, but it's right at the heart of tourist central next to the London Eye with great Thames and Parliament views.
I stayed in November for two nights. My rate was an absurd $600 a night -- more than the J.W. Marriott, actually.

The renovations are very nice. A bit nicer than the renovated Marriott properties in the United States, but I think the offerings and services aren't as upscale as the old County Hall. The makeshift lounge -- renovations on the lounge were way behind schedule -- was pathetic, in my opinion. It was never noticed at reservation that the renovated lounge wasn't open. I even made a point to complain to the general manager, but they didn't care. In fact, the duty manager, before I spoke to the general manager, told me this is one of the most-redeemed award stay properties in all of the Marriott portfolio. (It's like the Marriott on St. Thomas. It isn't worth what they charge, but they don't need to be because it's a steady flow of customers.)

Yes, it's a beautiful old-looking building and, yes, it's within walking distance of everything touristy but the J.W. is much better, especially in terms of service and actually caring about its elite-level guests.
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Old May 12, 17, 8:45 pm
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While a lot of people prefer hotels in Zone 1/close to tourist things when redeeming points (and if their budgets allow, paid stays), there are also some that will stay at farther locations such as Kensington, Maida Vale, Regents Park, and just tube it to the tourist sites (or to biz mtgs).
Ding ding ding. I've had about 250 nights in London over the last 7 years. I decided long ago to stay in Zone 2, where the properties tend to be less expensive, quiet, and not overloaded with tourists. Yes, it takes me perhaps an extra 10 minutes on the Tube going to the office in the morning. No problem.
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Old Jun 24, 17, 11:48 am
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London Ritz/Marriott Redemption

Hi all,

On my way to London, and cannot for the life of me decide between these three hotels for award redemption:

The London Edition
Grosvenor House
London Marriott Hotel Park Lane

Curious to know if anyone has had any experience and can provide any help. I'm Gold so hoping that a room upgrade will be in my future.

Thanks!
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Old Jun 25, 17, 6:04 am
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Originally Posted by jacobslide View Post
Hi all,

On my way to London, and cannot for the life of me decide between these three hotels for award redemption:

The London Edition
Grosvenor House
London Marriott Hotel Park Lane

Curious to know if anyone has had any experience and can provide any help. I'm Gold so hoping that a room upgrade will be in my future.

Thanks!
You get almost no benefits at Edition hotels--not even breakfast.

The J.W. Grosvenor House will upgrade you, even on an award stay. You also get the full benefits.
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Old Jun 25, 17, 8:07 am
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jacobslide, as hockeyinsider says, forget about the Edition as no bennies other than free wifi.

Both the JW & PL are good choices. Since the JW is larger, odds of upgrades are better.

Cheers.
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Old Jun 25, 17, 9:35 am
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I booked 7 award nights at JW Grosvenor House. The occupancy is listed as maximum 2, but that cribs are allowed. Will they allow us to stay here my wife and I and our baby? (1 year old) Do I need to email and confirm? Does anyone have this property's email address? Thanks.

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Old Jun 25, 17, 10:38 am
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Originally Posted by SkiAdcock View Post
jacobslide, as hockeyinsider says, forget about the Edition as no bennies other than free wifi.

Both the JW & PL are good choices. Since the JW is larger, odds of upgrades are better.

Cheers.
Great, thank you both!
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Old Jun 25, 17, 11:39 am
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I booked 7 award nights at JW Grosvenor House. The occupancy is listed as maximum 2, but that cribs are allowed. Will they allow us to stay here my wife and I and our baby? (1 year old) Do I need to email and confirm? Does anyone have this property's email address? Thanks.
If you want to confirm a crib, yes. You could contact Marriott reservations & ask them to note your account or give you an email address or, if you have Skype, call the property during the day & get someone onsite to confirm the crib request. I don't think they're including a 1-year old in the 2 person occupancy.

"Crib/Play Yard : Portable play yard-type crib Complimentary"

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Old Jun 26, 17, 1:09 am
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Originally Posted by SkiAdcock View Post
jacobslide, as hockeyinsider says, forget about the Edition as no bennies other than free wifi.

Both the JW & PL are good choices. Since the JW is larger, odds of upgrades are better.

Cheers.
Backing up what SkiAdcock has noted, here's info that compares the three properties:

The London EDITION
Stats: 7 floors, 173 rooms (%Suites: 0%) | no CL | Category: Tier 4 | Built: 2013 | Last Remodel: 2013 (opened)

London Marriott Hotel Park Lane
Stats: 5 floors, 124 rooms, 28 suites (%Suites: 23%) | Concierge Lounge: yes | Category: 9 | Built: 1919 | Last Remodel: 2015

Grosvenor House, A JW Marriott Hotel
Stats: 8 floors, 420 rooms, 76 suites (%Suites: 18%) | Concierge Lounge: yes | Category: 9 | Built: 1929 | Last Remodel: 2008 (Wikipedia)
While the Park Lane has a larger percentage of suites, it is clear from the responses on this thread that the Grosvenor House, because of the sheer number of rooms and suites, is more likely to offer an upgrade, even on an award.

I'm working on my review of the Park Lane from my family's stay there in April and, even booking 3 (three) award rooms for 6 days each, no upgrades were offered. Now clearly the probability of even one upgrade was unfortunately also low because of the length of stay, but one upgrade out of the three would have been nice. So a shorter award stay at Grosvenor House may net you the upgrade you desire - without having to fork over any additional GBP.

Also, as a Tier 4 Ritz Carlton equivalent property. you'll need 60K points/night versus 45K points/night at either the Park Lane or the Grosvenor House.

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Old Jul 10, 17, 1:03 pm
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London: Best value

Platinum member staying in London for five days on points this August.
family vacation, two adults, two children.

What would you consider to be the best value (not necessarily the lowest cost) based on Platinum status, lounge access, location, etc.

I'm looking to use points, but I've also included the nightly rate without points.

thanks:

Grosvenor Square
180,000 + 180 GBP/night
or 616 pounds per night

Park Lane
180,000 + 400 GBP/night
or 690 pounds per night

Marble Arch
180,000 + 75/night
or 226 pounds per night

St. Ermins
160,000 +150 GBP/night
or 301 gbp per night

Regents Park
160,000 + 80 GBP/night
or 179 gbp per night

Kensington
160,00 +120 gbp/night
or 216 gbp/night

Hotel Maida Vale
points not available
175 gbp/night
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None of those seem great. Are you logged in when booking? I had no problems finding rooms for points only in July.
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None of those seem great. Are you logged in when booking? I had no problems finding rooms for points only in July.
I think the reason behind the surcharge is the fact that he wants one room to fit four people, so that does not work with any standard room in London. Therefor if you specify four people you need to book a larger room that requires a surcharge per night on top of the points per night.

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Old Jul 10, 17, 6:24 pm
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I think the reason behind the surcharge is the fact that he wants one room to fit four people, so that does not work with any standard room in London. Therefor if you specify four people you need to book a larger room that requires a surcharge per night on top of the points per night.

Greetings - Dirk
exactly,
once you go to 3/4 people, hotel options are reduced, room type availability changes and the points level/price both increase. For example, with the Marriott Kensington, the only room type available is a junior suite, with a four person reward stay for the dates we've selected.
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If it were me with a family of four, I'd choose St. Ermins for a base reward and then contact the hotel directly about paying a surcharge for a Family Room (two queens and a trundle bed).

No lounge but a wonderful breakfast. And nothing aids family harmony like two bathrooms.
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Old Aug 1, 17, 9:15 am
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Maybe someone can help with this...trying to decide between PL and JW Grosvenor. We are staying for a week on points. First trip to London, basically just being tourists. We are only gold so the lounge isn't a factor (though I suppose likelihood of an upgrade might be--we do not frequent Marriott so I'm unfamiliar with the chance of that even happening on points). I suppose my only hesitation on PL after reading the other thread is that it looks like a number of rooms face inward and don't get a lot of light. We would consider other properties as well; I briefly looked at the Renaissance but I believe the basic room there is a queen bed and I think that would be uncomfortable.
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