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mv1k Feb 1, 2008 12:45 am

Why no Marriott property in Taiwan?
 
I am looking for a hotel to stay in Taipei and just notice there is no Marriott property on the island. Do not know why?

jpatokal Feb 1, 2008 12:21 pm

Until recently, doing business in China and Taiwan simultaneously involved various complications, and most companies opted for the bigger pie. AFAIK only Hyatt, Starwood and Holiday Inn currently have a presence on the island, while many major chains like Marriott, Hilton, Radisson and Accor are entirely absent.

GrizShel Feb 1, 2008 4:48 pm

I don't understand why the cross - strait politics should have anything to do with decisions about whether to establish a presence in Taiwan. These days, there is a tremendous amount of commerce between the Chinese in Taiwan and the mainland Chinese in almost every kind of business imaginable. I seriously doubt that is why Marriott is not in Taiwan. So Marriott, do you have plans for establishing some properties in Taiwan in the forseeable future?

username Feb 1, 2008 6:50 pm

My guess is profitability. There was a Hilton in Taiwan for years. It is now under a local brand. Marriott probably sees it can spend its money elsewhere and get better returns...

star_world Feb 1, 2008 8:14 pm

jpatokal is correct. Historically it was very difficult to do businesses in both countries simultaneously. Look at the airline industry for example - flights to Taiwan by most of the major European airlines used to be operated by a separate subsidiary in order to keep the Chinese govt. happy. This changed about 10 years ago, slightly more, and obviously now the situation is a lot different. The profitability angle is the most likely one today.

username Feb 2, 2008 12:20 am


Originally Posted by star_world (Post 9177075)
jpatokal is correct. Historically it was very difficult to do businesses in both countries simultaneously. Look at the airline industry for example - flights to Taiwan by most of the major European airlines used to be operated by a separate subsidiary in order to keep the Chinese govt. happy. This changed about 10 years ago, slightly more, and obviously now the situation is a lot different. The profitability angle is the most likely one today.

I would say the airlines are a special case since the government ownership or flags are involved (and in the case of Japan, the extreme fear of China). KLM, BA, AF, NH, JL and QF all had their baby carriers flying to TPE. Some EG/EL are still going today.

For regular businesses, this has not been the case for at least 20 years. Marriott opened its first hotel in Asia in 1989 (HKG). It was playing catch-up (compared to Hilton and Sheraton). I think TPE is just low on the list - at one point, they did try it: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m..._7/ai_55142994 - but the numbers just don't look good.

With a lot of Taiwanese businesses moving to China and inbound tourism not getting much stronger, I don't think it is an attractive hotel market.

Aircoco Feb 4, 2008 6:35 am

Not many international tourists are going to Taiwan, the domestic tourism is rather vibrant enough to support the few international hotel chains.

barracuda93 Sep 24, 2013 2:25 pm


Originally Posted by jpatokal (Post 9174785)
Until recently, doing business in China and Taiwan simultaneously involved various complications, and most companies opted for the bigger pie. AFAIK only Hyatt, Starwood and Holiday Inn currently have a presence on the island, while many major chains like Marriott, Hilton, Radisson and Accor are entirely absent.

Accor has a hotel in Taiwan (Novotel near Taoyuan airport) –.just one, but amazing quality. Sadly, no Ibis hotels.

BKKLEE Sep 24, 2013 6:22 pm

and the purpose of bumping up a 5+ yr old post was ?????


Originally Posted by barracuda93 (Post 21498236)
Accor has a hotel in Taiwan (Novotel near Taoyuan airport) –.just one, but amazing quality. Sadly, no Ibis hotels.


jamar Oct 25, 2013 6:11 pm

Well, it helps me understand why I couldn't find any Marriott or Hilton properties to stay at there this Christmas.

username Oct 27, 2013 12:58 am

It is strange how Marriott has not done anything in Taiwan and Hilton has not returned. Starwood, Hyatt, IHG and Accor all have properties there. The Chinese tourists are really helping the occupancy rates there.

wethereyet Oct 27, 2013 3:50 am


Originally Posted by username (Post 21675510)
It is strange how Marriott has not done anything in Taiwan and Hilton has not returned. Starwood, Hyatt, IHG and Accor all have properties there. The Chinese tourists are really helping the occupancy rates there.

Agree, still seems odd Marriott has no presence in Taipei.

CO-PLAT Oct 27, 2013 9:00 pm


Originally Posted by barracuda93 (Post 21498236)
Accor has a hotel in Taiwan (Novotel near Taoyuan airport) –.just one, but amazing quality. Sadly, no Ibis hotels.

Monarch Plaza is my go-to in Taoyuan. All the airline crews stay there. Westin in Taipei and Grand Hi-Lai in Kaohsiung.

username Oct 28, 2013 12:58 am


Originally Posted by BKKLEE (Post 21499373)
and the purpose of bumping up a 5+ yr old post was ?????

and the purpose for questioning people for doing this was ?????? :D

BKKLEE Oct 28, 2013 1:04 am

to point out so what, there's no Marriott in Taiwan..........well, big deal!

there aren't any Marriotts in Myanmar, Laos, Cambodia among other countries in So America, Africa, etc.................wasn't aware that Marriott MUST be represented in every country :D:D:D


Originally Posted by username (Post 21680439)
and the purpose for questioning people for doing this was ?????? :D



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