Last edit by: FindAWay
Lifetime points are missing from the profile section of the website and show as 0 in the Marriott mobile app. However, you may be able to use the work-around referenced in this blog post to see your current Lifetime Points.
You can still view your lifetime points online with the following steps:
If you call Marriott they can also tell you your lifetime points balance.
http://www.marriott.com/marriott/rew...te-benefits.mi As of 20 May, this process does not work. There is no link called "Night Detail" on this page.
To check lifetime balances: (HT to txpenny)
1. Click "Night Detail".
2. Click "Learn More" (under the night total)
3. Click "Marriott Rewards Overview". At this point you're probably no longer logged in (because you've been thrown to an older version of the Marriott website), so log in again.
4. Click "Nights" under your current year's nights. -> The detail you're expecting showing LT nights and points will show up like before.
Lifetime Silver Elite:
250 qualified nights
1.2 million points
Lifetime Gold Elite
500 qualified nights
1.6 million points
Lifetime Platinum Elite
750 qualified nights
2.0 million points
To check your point and night balance, log into your account and click My Account > Account Overview > Nights.
"Elite Lifetime Status is determined by your total qualified nights stayed and points earned throughout the course of your membership including your paid nights, Elite rollover nights, meeting nights and the nights and points earned on your Marriott Rewards Credit Card."
Points used by members to buyback their previously attained Elite level will be permanently deducted from their Lifetime point balance.
If an elite's point level drops below that required for the level attained, they will drop down to the next Lifetime level until points are accumulated to get them back to the next level.
Lifetime points in addition to nights now display on your Marriott Rewards account. When logged in, click on "Nights" (the blue link below the number representing your current year nights). You'll see the detail of what comprises your current year nights as well as your Lifetime Status nights.
You can still view your lifetime points online with the following steps:
- Go to www.marriott.com and login
- Go to https://www.marriott.com/rewards/rewards-program.mi
- Click "Nights"
If you call Marriott they can also tell you your lifetime points balance.
To check lifetime balances: (HT to txpenny)
1. Click "Night Detail".
2. Click "Learn More" (under the night total)
3. Click "Marriott Rewards Overview". At this point you're probably no longer logged in (because you've been thrown to an older version of the Marriott website), so log in again.
4. Click "Nights" under your current year's nights. -> The detail you're expecting showing LT nights and points will show up like before.
Lifetime Silver Elite:
250 qualified nights
1.2 million points
Lifetime Gold Elite
500 qualified nights
1.6 million points
Lifetime Platinum Elite
750 qualified nights
2.0 million points
To check your point and night balance, log into your account and click My Account > Account Overview > Nights.
"Elite Lifetime Status is determined by your total qualified nights stayed and points earned throughout the course of your membership including your paid nights, Elite rollover nights, meeting nights and the nights and points earned on your Marriott Rewards Credit Card."
Points used by members to buyback their previously attained Elite level will be permanently deducted from their Lifetime point balance.
If an elite's point level drops below that required for the level attained, they will drop down to the next Lifetime level until points are accumulated to get them back to the next level.
Lifetime points in addition to nights now display on your Marriott Rewards account. When logged in, click on "Nights" (the blue link below the number representing your current year nights). You'll see the detail of what comprises your current year nights as well as your Lifetime Status nights.
Lifetime Marriott Rewards elite status (Pre-Merge 2018 and earlier)
#2866
Join Date: May 2002
Location: DTW
Programs: DL FF, Marriott LT Plat., National EA
Posts: 100
Well... I guess we have our answer...
I got this now from the chat
Erin H: In order to be grandfathered into the Lifetime Platinum Premier status, you would need to achieve the Lifetime Platinum status before August.
Erin H: Otherwise
Erin H:If you did not have the Lifetime Platinum status then, you would have to complete the requirements under our current rules by December 31, 2018 to become Lifetime Platinum.Me: but you say - You can also qualify via the existing criteria through December 31, 2018 in the lifetime page?
Erin H: You would only be able to be grandfathered into the Lifetime Platinum Premier status if you achieve the Lifetime Platinum before August. I did receive clarification on this and this is how it was explained to me.
Erin H: In order to be grandfathered into the Lifetime Platinum Premier status, you would need to achieve the Lifetime Platinum status before August.
Erin H: Otherwise
Erin H:If you did not have the Lifetime Platinum status then, you would have to complete the requirements under our current rules by December 31, 2018 to become Lifetime Platinum.Me: but you say - You can also qualify via the existing criteria through December 31, 2018 in the lifetime page?
Erin H: You would only be able to be grandfathered into the Lifetime Platinum Premier status if you achieve the Lifetime Platinum before August. I did receive clarification on this and this is how it was explained to me.
#2867
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: LGA/JFK/EWR
Programs: UA 1K1.75MM, Hyatt Globalist, abandoned Marriott LTT (RIP SPG), Hertz PC
Posts: 21,165
I think the status chart makes it pretty clear - there is an asterisk next to the benefit saying "awarded with 50 / 75 qualifying nights". No, you're not going to get it automatically.
#2868
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
Programs: Marriott LT Titanium, Hilton Diamond, DL DM & 2MM
Posts: 235
While I see your point about the asterisk, that chart is specific to benefits achieved at each level during a calendar year based on nights stayed (Silver through Ambassador). If you achieve that level through lifetime status each year I think there still needs to be clarification from Marriott on this topic. If the suite nights aren't awarded to LT PP then the only real benefit difference between LT Plat and LT PP would be a 25% point bonus and 48 hour guarantee which aren't very significant for someone who has achieved that status and is no longer traveling enough to achieve the night thresholds. For someone who has effectively achieved LT Plat 3 times over based on current threshold requirements I believe rewarding LT members with ALL benefits of their associated level is appropriate. I'm sure we'll get clarity eventually but my hope is Marriott does right by their most loyal customers who have achieved these levels.
#2869
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: MSP
Programs: Marriott LT Titanium, UA Silver (via Marriott)
Posts: 642
While I see your point about the asterisk, that chart is specific to benefits achieved at each level during a calendar year based on nights stayed (Silver through Ambassador). If you achieve that level through lifetime status each year I think there still needs to be clarification from Marriott on this topic. If the suite nights aren't awarded to LT PP then the only real benefit difference between LT Plat and LT PP would be a 25% point bonus and 48 hour guarantee which aren't very significant for someone who has achieved that status and is no longer traveling enough to achieve the night thresholds. For someone who has effectively achieved LT Plat 3 times over based on current threshold requirements I believe rewarding LT members with ALL benefits of their associated level is appropriate. I'm sure we'll get clarity eventually but my hope is Marriott does right by their most loyal customers who have achieved these levels.
#2870
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: BZN
Programs: AA:LT Platinum DL:LT Gold UA:1P MAR:LT Titanium
Posts: 8,289
Except for one thing... You can do a few cheap meetings to boost your nights to 50 or 75 if needed and get those suites. At least thats what I'm doing this year (I would otherwise end up around 45 nights this year but I want that those 10 suite nights as a LT PP so I'm spending $150 on 3 meetings).
#2871
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: YVR to SEA
Posts: 2,527
Except for one thing... You can do a few cheap meetings to boost your nights to 50 or 75 if needed and get those suites. At least thats what I'm doing this year (I would otherwise end up around 45 nights this year but I want that those 10 suite nights as a LT PP so I'm spending $150 on 3 meetings).
#2872
Join Date: Sep 2005
Programs: SPG Lifetime Platinum
Posts: 168
I believe the concise argument why an SPG LTP with 750 combined nights by 8/1/18 (or 12/31/18 as some others have argued) should be mapped to the new LTPP, rather than the new LTP is as follows.
1. By staying 750 combined nights, the SPG LTP has achieved the same requirements as the legacy MR LTP.
2. Now, given that MR LTP also required 2MM added points over the course of the program membership (not taking into account spending), if Marriott can manage from an IT standpoint, it would also be reasonable for Marriott to take LT SPG points earned, multiply that figure by 3 (given the 1>3 SPG to MR conversion), add that number to the same member's MR account points total.
As far as I'm concerned, and I sincerely hope that Marriott senior management agrees, if a SPG LTP shows both 750 combined nights, and 2MM combined earned points if this can be historically tracked across systems (when taking into account the 1>3 SPG to MR conversion), it is only fair and right that they be mapped to LTPP rather than LTP.
1. By staying 750 combined nights, the SPG LTP has achieved the same requirements as the legacy MR LTP.
2. Now, given that MR LTP also required 2MM added points over the course of the program membership (not taking into account spending), if Marriott can manage from an IT standpoint, it would also be reasonable for Marriott to take LT SPG points earned, multiply that figure by 3 (given the 1>3 SPG to MR conversion), add that number to the same member's MR account points total.
As far as I'm concerned, and I sincerely hope that Marriott senior management agrees, if a SPG LTP shows both 750 combined nights, and 2MM combined earned points if this can be historically tracked across systems (when taking into account the 1>3 SPG to MR conversion), it is only fair and right that they be mapped to LTPP rather than LTP.
Last edited by jrothenb; Apr 18, 2018 at 8:33 am
#2873
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: body: A stone's throw from SFO, mind: SE Asia
Programs: Some of this 'n some of that
Posts: 17,263
Does a Marriott to Marriott transfer count toward lifetime points for the receiver?
#2874
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: South Florida
Programs: AA LTG (EXP), Hilton Silver (Dia), Marriott LTP (PP), SPG LTG (P) > MPG LTPP
Posts: 11,329
#2875
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: MCI
Programs: AA Gold 1MM, AS MVP, UA Silver, WN A-List, Marriott LT Titanium, HH Diamond
Posts: 52,501
Unfortunately, people here get emotional attachments to status levels. As how much they would pay for PP status over P status, as defined in the documents. I would bet it's very little. But knowing a bunch of people have a title that's "higher" - huge emotional impact.
It is what it is.
It is what it is.
My two reasons, both of which are just educated guesses at this point - but probably enough to me now to have tangible value:
(1) The United partnership. Since this is being re-upped in the new program and DL is being dropped, I suspect it'll be around for a while. However (this is the part where I'm taking a guess), I believe they will recast it as a benefit for Platinum Premiers. In other words, PP's get UA Silver; UA Golds get Marriott Platinum. Since I don't have an easy regular path to Star Silver, yet I like to redeem on *A, this has real value to me and would for years to come.
(2) Insulation against future devaluations in benefits. Since base Plat is the new breakfast/lounge tier, I would take peace of mind if I'm a tier above that. In this giant new program, it wouldn't surprise me at all if there's an eventual Hilton-style change that relegates regular Plats to a lesser breakfast when they aren't upgraded to the lounge level.
1 probably has more hard value to me than 2 for now...but if I have to, I'll pay a couple hundred bucks for it. I just need to sort out if I'm actually close enough to make a run at the 250k points I need in that timeframe. Already-booked stays put me at 745 nights by July 1, so a couple long weekends somewhere in July and I have the nights.
#2876
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: OGG
Programs: AA Plat, A List Pref, Marriott Ambassador
Posts: 356
I believe the concise argument why an SPG LTP with 750 combined nights by 8/1/18 (or 12/31/18 as some others have argued) should be mapped to the new LTPP, rather than the new LTP is as follows.
1. By staying 750 combined nights, the SPG LTP has achieved the same requirements as the legacy MR LTP.
2. Now, given that MR LTP also required 2MM added points over the course of the program membership (not taking into account spending), if Marriott can manage from an IT standpoint, it would also be reasonable for Marriott to take LT SPG points earned, multiply that figure by 3 (given the 1>3 SPG to MR conversion), add that number to the same member's MR account points total.
As far as I'm concerned, and I sincere hope that Marriott senior management agrees, if a SPG LTP shows both 750 combined nights, and 2MM combined earned points if this can be historically tracked across systems (when taking into account the 1>3 SPG to MR conversion), it is only fair and right that they be mapped to LTPP rather than LTP.
1. By staying 750 combined nights, the SPG LTP has achieved the same requirements as the legacy MR LTP.
2. Now, given that MR LTP also required 2MM added points over the course of the program membership (not taking into account spending), if Marriott can manage from an IT standpoint, it would also be reasonable for Marriott to take LT SPG points earned, multiply that figure by 3 (given the 1>3 SPG to MR conversion), add that number to the same member's MR account points total.
As far as I'm concerned, and I sincere hope that Marriott senior management agrees, if a SPG LTP shows both 750 combined nights, and 2MM combined earned points if this can be historically tracked across systems (when taking into account the 1>3 SPG to MR conversion), it is only fair and right that they be mapped to LTPP rather than LTP.
#2877
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: body: A stone's throw from SFO, mind: SE Asia
Programs: Some of this 'n some of that
Posts: 17,263
#2878
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: MCI
Programs: AA Gold 1MM, AS MVP, UA Silver, WN A-List, Marriott LT Titanium, HH Diamond
Posts: 52,501
US may have taken over AA from a flight operations perspective (I didn't even really know that), but AAdvantage took over Dividend Miles. That one feels like Marriott Rewards taking over Starwood Preferred Guest - although smartly with a lot of the key features of SPG not being dismantled. Don't know what the new program will be called, but the landing page for now is "members.marriott.com", not "members.spg.com".
So yes, the legacy Marriott Plats get tossed a little bone that Starwood Plats don't get.
So yes, the legacy Marriott Plats get tossed a little bone that Starwood Plats don't get.
#2879
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Washington D.C.
Programs: UA Gold MM , AS MVPG , MR LTT, Hilton Dia
Posts: 478
I would say if you have 750 SPG nights and the equivalent (before 3:1 ratio) of 2m points then you might have an argument. But combining the two programs nights and points to get there doesn't make sense. Frankly, I don't blame Marriott for only rewarding the people who LTP with Marriott. When AA and US merged they didn't go back to my US history and add up all of the credit card and bonus points I earned and add them to my Lifetime status (even though until like 2010 they counted that for AA). I kind of got the shaft...and US was the one taking over AA. That's how the cookie crumbles. But if I was SPG LTP and my nights/points equalled the LTP Marriott #'s I would try like heck to get them to make me LTPP...
#2880
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: MCI
Programs: AA Gold 1MM, AS MVP, UA Silver, WN A-List, Marriott LT Titanium, HH Diamond
Posts: 52,501
Example: my wife has Starpoints. She opens a new Marriott account and transfers Starpoints to it. She then transfers those Marriott points to me.