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Originally Posted by pgh
(Post 9048463)
Not much else to say.
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ONLY at Marriotts. Most Hyatts I have been at do NOT encourage it. That is why they are FULL SERVICE.
I think its TACKY to have the "customer" clean his table off. If I want to do that, and possibly touch other peoples dirty utensils, I will just trot on down to McDonalds. The attendant at the Ren ATL airport is cool. He REFUSES to let you bus your table...oh, and wears the COOLEST hats. Just tell him that you are fans of team X and he usually will have it on the next night! |
Every single time. I can't fathom not doing so. And if the "dump" tray is filled or missing, I'll bring it into the "kitchen". And its time to ban cell phones from the CL...
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Originally Posted by sophiegirl
(Post 9048124)
I read continual complaints about CL's in this forum, and I am sure some of them are warranted - but I think we need to look at ourselves, too. I don't think there are many of us who get up from the table at home and do not at least carry the dishes to the sink! Nevertheless, I always clear my dishes to the available tray, because I'm considerate and was a restaurant/bar server in college. |
Originally Posted by PhillyPhlyer40
(Post 9052743)
I think its TACKY to have the "customer" clean his table off.
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It Is Long Past Time To Ban Cell Phones !
BAN CELL PHONES in all public places! :(:(
Especially Concierge Lounges near the TV's! :mad:
Originally Posted by joshua362
(Post 9053343)
Every single time. I can't fathom not doing so. And if the "dump" tray is filled or missing, I'll bring it into the "kitchen". And its time to ban cell phones from the CL...
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[QUOTE=PhillyPhlyer40;9052743]
I think its TACKY to have the "customer" clean his table off. OP AGAIN - Ah - perhaps here is the difference. I do not think of myself as a "customer" when I am in the CL. IMHO; (and I know in advance what THIS is going to start!) Marriott provides this as a "thank you" for the large amount of business I provide them - therefore, to ME, this is a complimentary service, and my behavior is governed accordingly. At the risk of taking this post off on another tack - I still beleive that the price you pay at a hotel covers your room. The number of nights you stay in a hotel chain is YOUR choice. What that hotel chain does to reward/thank you for your business is THEIR choice. If it the two are not mutually acceptable........well, that is why there is more than one hotel chain. Rewards, CL's, bonus points are not unalienable rights and cannot be found in the constitution. I am showing my age, (and probably sounding like my Mother!) but I remember when there WERE no award programs, no CL's - and the reality is that the worst run program out there is better than NONE! |
I've only used the lounges at the Ren Prague and Prague Marriott (I'm only a poor Silver!) and whenever I tried to clean up after myself, the attendant said 'it's OK sir, I'll do that' or words to that effect.
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Originally Posted by sophiegirl
(Post 9054285)
Ah - perhaps here is the difference. I do not think of myself as a "customer" when I am in the CL.
Rewards, CL's, bonus points are not unalienable rights and cannot be found in the constitution. I hardly figure that the founding fathers of this country would have figured to put those into the constitution. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: BUT...I will say...that I do NOT travel for my health. Neither do I spend 200+++ nights in a hotel a year for the FUN of it! I travel to get a job completed. I would NOT walk into a 4 star restaurant and expect to mix my own drink or clear my own table. Also, I would not expect to have overnight shoe shine service at a Motel 6. (Something MOST FS marriotts offer!!!) Oh, and I DO tip, very well, EVERY TIME! |
Yes, always do.
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Originally Posted by PhillyPhlyer40
(Post 9054553)
....I would NOT walk into a 4 star restaurant and expect to mix my own drink or clear my own table....
The food (and drink) offerings are self-service. There is typically an attendant on duty to keep things tidy but if the room is busy, as a courtesy to the other guests (NOT the attendant!), I will bus my own dishes in the same manner I was served. In some (very few) CLs, the attendants will take the dishes for you - one time so aggressively it was before I finished :mad: - but that is the exception, at least in the US. |
Originally Posted by sophiegirl
(Post 9048124)
I just left one of the largest CL's in the chain. It had 3 attendants that I saw, all who were busily working the entire time I was there. I STILL had a hard time getting a table, because (IMHO inconsiderate) previous guests had gotten up and left every used dish, napkin, silverware, and used newspaper in place for these employees to clean up. Come on - is it that hard to pick up your cup & plate and place it on a cart as you leave?
I have a friend who does aircraft-related sales in South America, primarily Chile. He always comes back amazed at how at a Chilean airshow there is less trash laying around than the average American high-school basketball game. He says in Chile they always end the "Please pick up your trash" announcements with a standard catch-phrase: "Civilized people pick up after themselves". Regardless of how clean you think Chilean airshows really are; its a good point. The CL is a shared space. When they are not busy, the attendants yank used plates out from under your fork, but, even at that, it there are trays in the corner it is meant to be self-bussing. As a courtesy to the next guests, I'll remove my own tailings to the trays. If there are none, I'll condense down to the smallest possible footprint so the next guests can still be seated, and it would only take the attendant a moment. In repeat guest situations, they remember who is helpful and your kindness comes back around. And if there is a line of people needing to be seated, I don't hog the table talking after I'm done either. |
You must be a Princess, at the very least!
[QUOTE=sophiegirl;9054285]
Originally Posted by PhillyPhlyer40
(Post 9052743)
I think its TACKY to have the "customer" clean his table off. OP AGAIN - Ah - perhaps here is the difference. I do not think of myself as a "customer" when I am in the CL. IMHO; (and I know in advance what THIS is going to start!) Marriott provides this as a "thank you" for the large amount of business I provide them - therefore, to ME, this is a complimentary service, and my behavior is governed accordingly. At the risk of taking this post off on another tack - I still beleive that the price you pay at a hotel covers your room. The number of nights you stay in a hotel chain is YOUR choice. What that hotel chain does to reward/thank you for your business is THEIR choice. If it the two are not mutually acceptable........well, that is why there is more than one hotel chain. Rewards, CL's, bonus points are not unalienable rights and cannot be found in the constitution. I am showing my age, (and probably sounding like my Mother!) but I remember when there WERE no award programs, no CL's - and the reality is that the worst run program out there is better than NONE! One of my better experiences, I can remember on my first airplane (prop Convair) flight many many years ago, when the meal trays were still out and tray tables down. The plane was on approach for landing and bouncing all over the place. The poor FA could not have gotten them all collected in time. She was obviously flustered. Having waited tables in college, I asked if she wanted me to help, got up and helped her rescue the trays before they ended up on the passengers' chests. At that time, we passengers were well dressed and men wore dress shirts and ties. Have never forgotten that 'flight'! It doesn't take much to make other people's life/job easier. The very least is picking up after oneself, rather then thinking it is a divine right not to have to. ^ |
You know, at the end of the day, its just common sense.
Whether the CL or at certain restaurants (think cafeteria or fast food), if you get your own food and you aren't being waited on otherwise (such as hotel breakfast buffet), then clean up after yourself. In fact, I frequent a great chain whenever possible, Sweet Tomatoes, a salad bar buffet restaurant and feel odd just leaving the tray/plates there but that's their wish. Sounds like as a group us FT'er are pretty respectful and tidy. But exit any freeway, wait at the light of the resulting intersection and glance at the filth and garbage to your left. Most of the population just doesn't get it! |
Originally Posted by keeton
(Post 9055430)
A CL is hardly a four star restaurant.:rolleyes:
And FS Marriotts hardly sell their services (CL, rooms, rest) as McDonalds. The dishes do need to be washed too, do you offer? :rolleyes: If you read my first post, you will see I did say ONLY at marriotts. Marriott has set the "bar" as people clean up after they're done. Hyatt does not. To each his own. Guess that is why I have a cleaning service and take my car through the car wash. Hopefully I can be such a wonderful citizen as others on here and cut those "extravagant" extras out of my life! :rolleyes: |
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