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hightower213 Sep 25, 2007 2:48 pm

Need Advice - How to Beat the Points Rules
 
Wondering if anyone can help. I have built up most all my points with Marriott. My wife however has all her points with Starwood. However, she's going to be staying at a Marriott in NYC for 2 weeks and I would like to keep the points in my account obviously rather than spread them out.

I'm aware of the Marriott points rules, but wondering if anyone has a suggestion to get around them with my final goal in mind?

Could I make the reservation, under my name, with my points #, and put 2 guests on the reservation and then just have her check in for the both of us even though I will never be there? Do they allow that?

Any suggestions would be great. Thanks.

hhoope01 Sep 25, 2007 3:34 pm

There has been anecdotal evidence here that your suggestion of making the reservation yourself and adding your wife's name as a guest works some of the time.

Note that what you are wanting to do is basically against the rules. IOW, the person getting the points is supposed to be staying at the property. So while you might get lucky and get the nights/points, it is also possible that you won't get them.

Another possibility that is completely within the rules is to let her get the points for the stay. Marriott will allow spouses to combine point totals for awards. So when it comes time to order the next award, just call Marriott and have them pull the points from her account and then whatever her account can't cover, yours can. This has a couple of very nice 'extra' features. One is if she doesn't yet have any Marriott CCs, get her to apply for all three (Premier, Basic Personal, Business). That should net her a nice tidy sum of 60k bonus points plus three Cat. 1-4 award certs. That's a lot of points and award certs that in effect can be added to your total. ^

socrates Sep 25, 2007 4:09 pm


Originally Posted by hightower213 (Post 8461612)
Wondering if anyone can help. I have built up most all my points with Marriott. My wife however has all her points with Starwood. However, she's going to be staying at a Marriott in NYC for 2 weeks and I would like to keep the points in my account obviously rather than spread them out.

I'm aware of the Marriott points rules, but wondering if anyone has a suggestion to get around them with my final goal in mind?

Could I make the reservation, under my name, with my points #, and put 2 guests on the reservation and then just have her check in for the both of us even though I will never be there? Do they allow that?

Any suggestions would be great. Thanks.

Yes it shouldn't be a problem

crazyhorse Sep 25, 2007 4:34 pm

I did that for a friend...
 
Friend of mine wanted to make a trip to Vegas but everything was full. I used my Plat override to get him a room at the Renaissance Las Vegas. I even used the Stay1 Get 1 EEO Certificate since the room was at rack rate so it worked out really great for him.
As for me, I got the nights credit (yes 2 nights) and the points for the money he spent :D

JTG Sep 25, 2007 11:34 pm

My wife has made reservations for herself, using my MR# on 4 occasions. Each time she's been given CL privileges, and I've received nights credits 3 out of 4 times. Only on her most recent trip did they ask if I would be joining her and, given that I was not, I didn't get the night. But they still gave her CL access.

AKRawr Sep 26, 2007 2:13 am

From a Marriott Employee.....
 
From the inside...

If you are staying at one of the non-full service properties, book it online as a points stay, but change the first name to your wife's. Our system only checks last names when it allows us to redeem points and post certificates. I do not know if this is the case at the Full-Service hotels as we use different computer systems.

Marykatesmom Sep 26, 2007 7:00 am

I have two rooms on two different reservations for a night at the Ritz. I'm taking my parents with me. They'll be in one room but I'll be in the other.

Please tell me this won't be a problem. I'll be mortified if there is even the slightest hassel at the front desk.

TrojanHorse Sep 26, 2007 7:27 am

If this mortifies you, I'd hate to see how real problems in life affect you :rolleyes:


Originally Posted by Marykatesmom (Post 8465332)
I'll be mortified if there is even the slightest hassel at the front desk.


CPRich Sep 26, 2007 7:42 am


Originally Posted by Marykatesmom (Post 8465332)
Please tell me this won't be a problem. I'll be mortified if there is even the slightest hassel at the front desk.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=738404

I'm sensing a pattern here. I suggest a reality check on what's important.

hhoope01 Sep 26, 2007 8:37 am


Originally Posted by Marykatesmom (Post 8465332)
I have two rooms on two different reservations for a night at the Ritz. I'm taking my parents with me. They'll be in one room but I'll be in the other.

Please tell me this won't be a problem. I'll be mortified if there is even the slightest hassel at the front desk.

If you are expecting that the RC will give you some elite perks and that you will be earning points on both rooms, you will probably be in for some problems. You can't earn Marriott points at a RC and they don't care about Marriott elite levels either.

Marykatesmom Sep 26, 2007 8:39 am


Originally Posted by CPRich (Post 8465507)
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=738404

I'm sensing a pattern here. I suggest a reality check on what's important.

I'm sensing a pattern here also, an upleasant and unhelpful one.

Marykatesmom Sep 26, 2007 8:43 am


Originally Posted by hhoope01 (Post 8465828)
If you are expecting that the RC will give you some elite perks and that you will be earning points on both rooms, you will probably be in for some problems. You can't earn Marriott points at a RC and they don't care about Marriott elite levels either.

I'm NOT looking for perks but when I made the second reservation the Rep wasn't sure about it and had to put me on hold to check. Never a good sign in my book. When I made the first reservation the clerk had to put me on hold about how to redeem the points since you can't do the Ritz online.

Marykatesmom Sep 26, 2007 8:46 am


Originally Posted by TrojanHorse (Post 8465433)
If this mortifies you, I'd hate to see how real problems in life affect you :rolleyes:

Sorry for the exaggeration.

PS. I work in health care. I do know a little something about real problems.

PhillyPhlyer40 Sep 26, 2007 11:00 am

Anyone know if this will work on a stay with my MOTHER (same last name) checking in to a reservation in my name and HER name? Can she get the PP perks?

rahmanbar Sep 26, 2007 12:02 pm


Originally Posted by Marykatesmom (Post 8465864)
I'm NOT looking for perks but when I made the second reservation the Rep wasn't sure about it and had to put me on hold to check. Never a good sign in my book. When I made the first reservation the clerk had to put me on hold about how to redeem the points since you can't do the Ritz online.

"The Rep" - was it someone at the RC reservations 800# or at the hotel?

If it was the former, try calling the hotel, if the latter, call them again, ask to speak to the Rooms Manager. If they don't recognize the title, ask for the GMs office and whoever picks up should be able to connect you to the responsible party.

Put it to them as a request for assistance, tell them why - (Fpr instance: "It would be reassuring to them and to me that I'd be readily available should they require assistance.")

GregWTravels Sep 26, 2007 12:33 pm


Originally Posted by Marykatesmom (Post 8465332)
I have two rooms on two different reservations for a night at the Ritz. I'm taking my parents with me. They'll be in one room but I'll be in the other.

Just to be sure I understand your question, I am going to restate it.

You booked two rooms (at separate times) using Marriott Rewards points under your name at the Ritz, and are wondering if there will be any issues with having two rooms under the same name in the same hotel on one night?

The answer is no, there is no issues with having two rooms reserved with MR points under the same name. I've done it a few times when "treating" friends to a few nights on what are otherwise backpacking vacations. Not a concern.

As Rahmanbar stated, however, you may want to call the hotel and ensure that both rooms are reserved, just to ensure that there isn't any confusion upon check in.

Hope this helps.
Greg

USirritated Sep 27, 2007 1:23 am


Originally Posted by Marykatesmom (Post 8465332)
I have two rooms on two different reservations for a night at the Ritz. I'm taking my parents with me. They'll be in one room but I'll be in the other.

Please tell me this won't be a problem. I'll be mortified if there is even the slightest hassel at the front desk.

Something that I have done MANY times before. Make both reservations in your own name, either for dollars or for points, does not matter. Since you will both be checking in at the same time, it clearly will not be an issue. Your name will stay on both reservations, but your parents room will have three names on it, yours, your mothers, and your fathers, all coexisting on the same "folio." When you all check out, you pay for whatever bill there is with your credit card, and if you wish to "settle up" with your parents then have them write you a check. I had three rooms reserved in my name at the Renaissance Scottsdale Resort, and when we arrived, I added my mother's name to one, and my brother's name to another, and left my name on all three. We were there for a family funeral, and I am always the one in my family who handles logistics, especially travel. When we left, I paid for all three with my credit card, and a week later, a check came in the mail from my mother for her portion. Bottom line, don't panic, and act as if you have done this before, and you belong there, and you will not likely be questioned. However, if you seem nervous about the whole thing, the front desk clerk will possibly pick up on that and start asking questions that you will not want to answer, or have the answers to.


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