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PaulSEA1 Sep 21, 2006 10:11 am

Marriott Shenyang - real or fake?
 
I'm going to Shenyang China next week. Expedia offered to book me at a "Marriott" but no such hotel is listed on Marriott.com. What gives? Is this a fake Marriott or is there a problem with Marriott.com? (or a problem with my use of Marriott.com??)

iwpingmu Sep 21, 2006 10:37 am

that Marriott has been discontinued, management contract was expired already
 
that Marriott has been discontinued, management contract was expired already

TribeFlyer Sep 21, 2006 10:55 am

Yes, it was deflagged in May; Expedia must not have updated its links to marriott.com...

ExCrew May 15, 2007 4:36 pm

Sorry to bump a thread, but this hotel still has Marriott logos throughout, as well as Marriott style room amenities. Plus, the picture of Bill and son still hangs in the lobby. If it is no longer a true Marriott property, why are they still allowed to display these trademarked items?
I thought I would be receiving credit for my stays here. This now seems to not be the case. This is extremely deceptive if this is true.

goldenbear May 15, 2007 4:42 pm


Originally Posted by ExCrew (Post 7742734)
Sorry to bump a thread, but this hotel still has Marriott logos throughout, as well as Marriott style room amenities. Plus, the picture of Bill and son still hangs in the lobby. If it is no longer a true Marriott property, why are they still allowed to display these trademarked items?
I thought I would be receiving credit for my stays here. This now seems to not be the case. This is extremely deceptive if this is true.

Well you can get pirated DVD's and CD's, fake watches and polo shirts all over china... maybe now you can stay at a pirated hotel!

ExCrew May 16, 2007 9:04 pm


Originally Posted by goldenbear (Post 7742761)
Well you can get pirated DVD's and CD's, fake watches and polo shirts all over china... maybe now you can stay at a pirated hotel!

My thoughts totally on this!

Question: I think my chances are pretty good of getting credit for my stays here due to the fact that there is nothing to tell me this ISN'T a Marriott property. I had a total of 3 nights here, and since my company has had me stay at a lot of SPG properties during my last few months here, my MegaBonus is in jeopardy. What does everyone else think? Will Marriott credit me the stays?

hhoope01 May 16, 2007 9:07 pm

Good luck trying, but if it isn't a Marriott hotel any longer, then I doubt Marriott will give you the stay credit or points (even if the hotel is trying to make you think they are still a Marriott hotel.)

ExCrew May 17, 2007 2:17 am


Originally Posted by hhoope01 (Post 7750299)
Good luck trying, but if it isn't a Marriott hotel any longer, then I doubt Marriott will give you the stay credit or points (even if the hotel is trying to make you think they are still a Marriott hotel.)

Well, from a legal standpoint, I would think they would probably want to see my way. I have collected several current communications to guests, all on Marriott corporate stationary. If they try to say 'We are no longer honoring this property', then why are they still allowing it to display it's trademark throughout the hotel? Kinda like Starbucks opening a location, then closing it down, but still allowing the new residents of the store to sell it's coffee. Deception. Regardless that it's in another country, it's still deception.

i'mlovin'it May 18, 2007 6:27 am


Originally Posted by goldenbear (Post 7742761)
Well you can get pirated DVD's and CD's, fake watches and polo shirts all over china... maybe now you can stay at a pirated hotel!

Absolutely! I do a lot of work with KPMG and we found out that there was a "fake" KPMG office in Shenzhen (had the logos, stationary, etc) and get this--it had more business than the "real" KPMG office in Shenzhen.

macj86 May 19, 2007 6:23 pm


Originally Posted by i'mlovin'it (Post 7757989)
Absolutely! I do a lot of work with KPMG and we found out that there was a "fake" KPMG office in Shenzhen (had the logos, stationary, etc) and get this--it had more business than the "real" KPMG office in Shenzhen.

Having spent nearly 1/3 of my life since the end of 2000 in China, I can attest to this phenomenon. Hilarious...unless it is one of your own brands getting pirated.

I've seen the usual (CDs, DVDs, software, hardware, mp3 players, appliances, clothing, etc..) but I'd have to say that the Marriott and KPMG examples take the cake.

Major G May 20, 2007 11:04 pm

I can add through personal experience that the "Sheraton" that all the reporters stay in at Baghdad hasn't paid thier commission to Sheraton in 20 years! What's Sheraton gonna do about it? Welcome to the real world.

Glenn

bhd87 May 20, 2007 11:08 pm


Originally Posted by Major G (Post 7770246)
I can add through personal experience that the "Sheraton" that all the reporters stay in at Baghdad hasn't paid thier commission to Sheraton in 20 years! What's Sheraton gonna do about it? Welcome to the real world.

Glenn

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