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annerj Apr 15, 2008 7:08 pm


Originally Posted by glg (Post 9577196)
If you're selling, you're the former. If not, you're the latter.

OUCH. I thought only OMNI got this bad :)

Premium Pound Apr 15, 2008 7:40 pm


Originally Posted by glg (Post 9577196)
Yes, it does. The BB has a value you are surrendering to sell it. That value must be counted if you're going to claim the benefit of the $25 you gain by selling it.

No it doesn't. Plain and simple and as stated in the post I am using my free BB to help offset the cost of a PP. Remember, the post is talking about what I do when I get a free BB not comparing the difference between the two.


You've never had a stay cost close to $100? I've had tons. If I have a stay that runs $95, why on earth would I spend $40 to upgrade my BB to a PP?

No. I have never had a two-night stay at a full-service Marriott including taxes and amenities come to $100. What a deal. A Marriott for $45 a night. Please let me know where you have had tons of stays at that rate. Wow, I hope your claim is true, I would love to learn how to pull that one off so I could use the remaining $100 to stay two more nights or for amenities.


Still bad math.
NO! You saved $100 additional by spending $40. If you had simply used the free BB without spending $40 and selling it for a PP, you would have saved $100.

Facts: I sold three free BB's on Ebay and used the proceeds to offset the cost of the PP's that I subsequently bought.
Then I used the PP and saved $200 off my bill for a two-night stay.
The offset cost of the PP's was $40 and I saved $200 off my bill. Not a difficult concept to comprehend.

Your first post called me a scammer even though I was giving out information and not trying to sell anything. A matter of fact, many people have PM'ed me asking for my source and I told them that he gives them away in a business promotion through his company and doesn't want me to give out his contact info.

Do you realize that I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt when I call you a spammer? Your dishonestly and blatant "go to ebay" pimping is the act of either a spammer or an idiot. If you're selling, you're the former. If not, you're the latter.

You are now saying that I am dishonest.

The fact is that the purpose of my post was to alert other posters about PP's. I don't sell them on Ebay and I am not pimping them. A matter of fact, not only don't I sell them on Ebay I don't buy them there either as I clearly outlined in my posts. I didn't come here to argue but from your very first post your intention was to argue and insult.

But I guess that is the only choice you had after you insulted me over and over only to realize that you misread my post and confused it with an earlier post.

jan_az Apr 15, 2008 8:13 pm

The math doesnt change.

I have something worth $100 ( the BB)
I sell it for $25
I am now -$75

I want something worth $200 (PP)
I buy it for $60 ( assuming you can find it for that price)

I am now + 140

Misc transactions fees and mailing expenses - -$5

Net 140-80= $60 ahead

Math is math - nothing much you can do about it

Premium Pound Apr 15, 2008 8:26 pm

Very true if your comparing PP's to BB's. I wasn't. My net cost was $40 and I saved $200 off my bill.

I am sorry I tried to help. I am also sorry that your friend GIG misread the post and now has asked you to try and defend him even when he is wrong.

I will go back to lurking. I hope that the rest of the people that read this thread have learned about PP's and will be able to take advantage of this thread. Good luck.

Gig. Please let me know where the tons of full service Marriott's are where I can stay for $45 a night. That information will make all this aggrevation worth it. :confused:



Originally Posted by jan_az (Post 9579566)
The math doesnt change.

I have something worth $100 ( the BB)
I sell it for $25
I am now -$75

I want something worth $200 (PP)
I buy it for $60 ( assuming you can find it for that price)

I am now + 140

Misc transactions fees and mailing expenses - -$5

Net 140-80= $60 ahead

Math is math - nothing much you can do about it


kevino Apr 15, 2008 10:09 pm

Does anyone have examples where hotels were accepting PP's at the poor hotel currency exchange rate, but then changed to the Marriott internal exchange rate after complaints from customers? Thanks.

jan_az Apr 15, 2008 10:34 pm


Originally Posted by Premium Pound (Post 9579635)
Very true if your comparing PP's to BB's. I wasn't. My net cost was $40 and I saved $200 off my bill.

I am sorry I tried to help. I am also sorry that your friend GIG misread the post and now has asked you to try and defend him even when he is wrong.

I will go back to lurking. I hope that the rest of the people that read this thread have learned about PP's and will be able to take advantage of this thread. Good luck.

Gig. Please let me know where the tons of full service Marriott's are where I can stay for $45 a night. That information will make all this aggrevation worth it. :confused:


Your net cost wasnt $40 - but I will give up - hopefully your math teacher did a better job with his/her other students

iwpingmu Apr 15, 2008 10:40 pm

Please stop


Please ask Mod to close this post,

this thread is no good to anyone who plans to use BB and PP for the long term

dayone Apr 15, 2008 11:10 pm


Originally Posted by Premium Pound (Post 9579635)
I hope that the rest of the people that read this thread have learned about PP's and will be able to take advantage of this thread.

No hope necessary. Many of us actually are very familiar with PPs and have a functional grasp of mathematics. If you need any more help with either, we would be glad to assist.

sophiegirl Apr 16, 2008 5:05 am


Originally Posted by iwpingmu (Post 9580220)
Please stop


Please ask Mod to close this post,

this thread is no good to anyone who plans to use BB and PP for the long term


I agree. And what is pitiful is that we are in essence talking about FREE MONEY. FREE money, and it is bringing out the ugliest side in some of us. (oh wait, money...bringing out the worst in us - there's an unique concept):rolleyes:

Perhaps the mod could not only close, but merge it with the thread where many are complaining about the other freebie - the plat arrival gift.

kevino Apr 16, 2008 10:57 am

I've used PP's at the following hotels, but at each hotel, I only got the over the counter exchange rate (the rate they charge guests who want to change money):

Marriott Singapore
Renaissance Makati Manila
Hunt Valley Marriott, Maryland
Los Angeles Marriott Downtown

Where are some places where you get the internal Marriott exchange rate? Thanks.

Brendan Apr 16, 2008 3:34 pm

I agree with PP on the general idea, but glg & jan_az are correct on the math. One can save $100 by simply using the BB--OR increase the savings to maybe $200 by spending the $40, so the gain by spending the $40 is $200-100 = $100.

Kevino, unfortunately that is what is promised in the T&Cs. Most hotels that give full exchange as listed in Marsha are those that do not exchange foreign cash over the counter, so as far as they know, the Marsha rate is the only rate. Especially a small-to-midsize US city where some people don't even know that Britain has its own money & doesn't use dollars in shops ;) !

glg Apr 16, 2008 9:25 pm


Originally Posted by kevino (Post 9582804)
Where are some places where you get the internal Marriott exchange rate? Thanks.

I got one via CC once and it a little piece of paper attached that had instructions on how to look up the internal for the clerk. The clerk was a little confused by the PP, but asked a mgr and did use the internal. Unfortunately, I didn't think to ask for that paper back.

Brendan Apr 17, 2008 12:24 am

Glg, I got such a paper from an FTer friend. IIRC, it says to enter into Marsha (Marriott's intranet):
OP/CCC/GB/100/US
If not in the USA, then substitute the 2-letter code for the country in which the hotel is.

kevino Apr 17, 2008 2:35 pm

Thanks.

Haha, I got a little piece of paper too from a flyertalker, but the two places I asked wouldn't do it, so I stopped asking. I guess I should keep trying. Thanks for the help. I appreciate it! :)

USirritated Apr 18, 2008 5:56 am

How about instead of going through all of this mishegosh over selling BB's and buying PP's to have $200 worth of something to save on, has anyone just considered the idea of using 2 @ $100 BB and not go through all that bs? Can we just make it simple here?


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