I agree with the OP on PP's value, but getting PPs is difficult.

The price of $65 on eBay is rare and its a bidding site, so it can be a hit or miss. Does OP have another source like Geico privileges for PP's? If so would he care to share, so that all of us can benefit.

Given that we cant buy PP's easily or get them without traveling to Europe, It's much easier to get the BB's with a rate that gives them away for free. Also when Geico privileges had the $20 deal, I bet most of us stocked up on the BB's.

Most of the people traveling on business cannot use PPs if the employer is paying the bills.

Even though you can get BB's and PP's on eBay its against T&C.

Are you looking for Premium Pounds and Bonus Bucks
 

I have an email address for both and she is a great lady too. She will add you to her monthly newsletter/price list

PM me for the address

She usually has both available.

And there's always an exception to the rule.....
 

I am closing out a 2 nite stay - bill arrived ='ing $104.97. As you do not get change from a PP or a BB - I would have lost money using a 100PP (did not have a 50PP) so handed over a 100BB.

Nothing is the best value all the time - there's always an exception! :D

Your lack of understanding of simple economics is astounding. If you want to count the $25 you gained from selling the BB, you have to discount the $100 in benefit you gave up.

I call you spammer, because you're acting like one.

glg's point was that you could have saved $100 with the BB without doing anything. So, save $100 with BB or save $200 buying PP for $40. $100-0=$100. $200-$40=$160. The difference is only $60. Your example looks as if you are saving $160 by spending $40, but you could have saved $100 without doing anything. So, your investment of $40 is getting you a return of an additional $60 in savings.

It doesn't look as lucrative when laid out in that manner. It's still a better savings, just not as great as first glance might show, especially once you add the hassle factor in.

OT, but if you are charging the room to a cc and expensing it, then usually the BB shows up as a supplemental payment (of, say, $100). You then just have to expense the extra $100 as cash for hotel.

Except for those companies that have you mark off everything on the company American Express ( or whatever) and then the company pays the AmEX bill. Its a real pain to expense cash payments, and also, IMO, an ethical issue

Yep

exactly.. it shows up as "cash payment"

can't get any simpler than that

my one for this past week

195.99 cash payment
1.14 to my CC

Not going to waste my time with BB if I don't have too.. I will say that there are times I've been forced to step it down to the BB level b/c thats all I had but I try to plan ahead

Maybe you should read my text again. It says:

I don't sell PP's on Ebay but I have sold three BB's on Ebay because it doesn't make sense to use them even when free.

The way to use BB's is to sell them and buy PP's. You can sell your BB for $25then buy a PP for $65. Then save $200 for a $40 investment. Works nice.

As you can see I am not comparing the savings using PP's to the savings using BB's. My post outlines what I do with a BB that I get for free. I think you already know that PP's do indeed save you $200 off the bill as is clearly stated in my text.

The entirely different subject of the DIFFERENCE in savings between a PP and a BB was taken up in a different post by me and it reads as follows:

The reason Premium Pound is my handle is because they are the reason for my post. I just don't understand the logic of paying $20 for a Geico BB when PP's are a MUCH better deal. I have learned a lot on here and wanted to share my 2 cents on PP's vs. BB's.

The Geico deal would only be good if you can't get Premium Pounds. Otherwise, it isn't even close.

$100 - $20 = $80 savings
$200 - $65 = $135 savings

I would rather pay $115 for a PP then get a $20 BB from Geico.

Also, there are ways to get PP's even if your in the U.S. Just look for a company in the Uk that sells them.

I have never had a problem using them. Not even once. And I stay in Marriott's over two hundred nights a year

So rather than insult my lack of understanding of simple economics maybe you should concentrate on learning to read.

Saying that you "invest" $40 to gain $200 is incorrect because part of that $40 was $25 gained by selling a $100 benefit. I'm objecting to the fact that you're not telling the whole truth. Let me try one last time. After that, your idiocy will have to stand alone.

You currently hold a BB. You have $100 in marriott savings (this is the part you ignore).

You sell the BB for $25. You now have $25 in cash, but -$100 in marriott savings that you gave up.

You buy a PP for $65. You're out $40 in cash, but up $100 in marriott savings.

So, you've invested $40 for a net gain of $100 in benefit. If you want to claim $40 for the PP via the sale of the BB, you are dishonest if you ignore the lost $100 benefit of the BB.

That would only be true if I was COMPARING the savings of a BB to the savings of a PP which I clearly am not.

READ the thread. In my first post I did COMPARE the difference between a BB and a PP. Here it is

I am a long time lurker but have never posted before. But I don't understand the many posts pertaining to Bonus Buck use.

Bonus Bucks = $50 off per night
Premium Pounds = $100 off per night

Even when I get Bonus Bucks for free I put them on E bay rather than lose the $100 more I get off by using a PP certificate.

Then in my second post I COMPARED BB's to PP's when buying from Geico:

The reason Premium Pound is my handle is because they are the reason for my post. I just don't understand the logic of paying $20 for a Geico BB when PP's are a MUCH better deal. I have learned a lot on here and wanted to share my 2 cents on PP's vs. BB's.

The Geico deal would only be good if you can't get Premium Pounds. Otherwise, it isn't even close.

$100 - $20 = $80 savings
$200 - $65 = $135 savings

I would rather pay $115 for a PP then get a $20 BB from Geico.

Then you responded to my third post in which I was responding specifically to what I do when I get a free BB:

[U]Originally Posted by Premium Pound View Post
The way to use BB's is to sell them and buy PP's. You can sell your BB for $25then buy a PP for $65. Then save $200 for a $40 investment. Works nice.

Nice math, spammer. You forgot the part where the BB was giving a benefit.


It is pretty simple. You misread my post and evidently thought I was COMPARING BB's to PP's but I clearly wasn't. You even quoted the post you were responding to and the post is referring to what I do with BB's obtained for free and in no way, shape or form does the post COMPARE the savings between BB's and PP's.

The thing that makes your continuous posts so funny is the irony of you rediculing my math and basic understanding of economics when the real problem is that your lack of ability to read the post correctly.

I am not sure why you want to attack me and call me a spammer for no reason. As I stated in an earlier post this forum has helped me in the past and my only reason to post about Premium Pounds was to try and alert other posters that they work better then Bonus Bucks.

I don't sell them and didn't try to do so on this forum.

I think he's ridiculing your math because, well, your math is bad. You said in a previous post: "Result. You saved $200 off your bill for a cost of $40." That's just wrong. In the scenario you gave, you started off with a BB worth $100. You ended up with a PP worth $200, less cash of $40. So your savings is what you ended up with ($200-$40, or $160) minus what you started with ($100). A savings of $60. I think your passion for PPs wouldn't be "ridiculed" if you honestly stated the savings so that readers can make rational decisions about whether it's worth $60 to them.

My post pertained to what I do when I get a Bonus Buck for free. What I would have saved if I used the Bonus buck has nothing to do with my net cost of a PP that I used to save $200:

I don't sell PP's on Ebay but I have sold three BB's on Ebay because it doesn't make sense to use them even when free.

The way to use BB's is to sell them and buy PP's. You can sell your BB for $25then buy a PP for $65. Then save $200 for a $40 investment. Works nice.


In an earlier text I compared the savings of a PP to a BB. If I was still doing so I would have included the $100 savings as evidenced by my post below:

The reason Premium Pound is my handle is because they are the reason for my post. I just don't understand the logic of paying $20 for a Geico BB when PP's are a MUCH better deal. I have learned a lot on here and wanted to share my 2 cents on PP's vs. BB's.

The Geico deal would only be good if you can't get Premium Pounds. Otherwise, it isn't even close.

$100 - $20 = $80 savings
$200 - $65 = $135 savings


How much do you save off your bill when you check out using a PP?
Answer: Around $200 depending on exchange rate.

How much did the PP cost you if you sold your BB and used the proceeds towards the purchase of the PP?
Answer: Around $40 but probably less.

Result: I saved $200 off my bill for the net cost of $40 when I sold my free BB and used the proceeds to purchase a PP.

Yes, it does. The BB has a value you are surrendering to sell it. That value must be counted if you're going to claim the benefit of the $25 you gain by selling it.

You've never had a stay cost close to $100? I've had tons. If I have a stay that runs $95, why on earth would I spend $40 to upgrade my BB to a PP?

Still bad math.

NO! You saved $100 additional by spending $40. If you had simply used the free BB without spending $40 and selling it for a PP, you would have saved $100.

Do you realize that I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt when I call you a spammer? Your dishonestly and blatant "go to ebay" pimping is the act of either a spammer or an idiot. If you're selling, you're the former. If not, you're the latter.