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DoubleD Aug 18, 2005 6:03 pm

?? Upgrade Secrets ??
 
Does anyone have any special secrets to getting upgrades. Haven't had one in 2 years???

Dennis

pointsofinterest Aug 18, 2005 7:22 pm


Originally Posted by Dennis.Dunbar@mckesson
Does anyone have any special secrets to getting upgrades. Haven't had one in 2 years???

Dennis

Hotels usually assign guests rooms the day before their arrival. I was able to get a confirmed upgrade once by calling the hotel (not the national reservations line) two days before I arrived. The reservationist was able to see capacity information for my stay and put me in a suite right away. I checked online right after the call and found the reservation had changed.

Your results will most certainly vary. It helps to have reason for your request like, "I'm trying to decided between two hotels" or "It's a special occasion", etc. Best to call during a slower time at the hotel when the agent can spend more time on your request.

ohmark Aug 18, 2005 8:09 pm


Originally Posted by Dennis.Dunbar@mckesson
Does anyone have any special secrets to getting upgrades. Haven't had one in 2 years???

Dennis

Are you staying at full service properties? Not even a lowly upgrade to the concierge floor?

Uncle Lars Aug 19, 2005 9:14 pm

I got my first upgrade, as a lowly Silver, in a year when I used that "Virtual Concierge" to ask the Marriott Minneapolis to "do their best" to find two double beds, since we were traveling with a child, in a hotel that was filled to capacity for a convention I was attending (and we had snagged a Summer Sleepover rate way back!) Had a personal response in an hour saying two double beds were guaranteed, and a Concierge Level room waiting when we arrived at midnight the next day! Nice touch (and, I have to say an enthusiastic staff there throughout, for a hotel that doesn't always get rave reviews on the Web).

I suspect during conventions when rooms are filled with non-Elite members, it may be easier for relative lowlife like me to get an upgrade.

By the way, is there any distinction between Silvers who have stayed 49 nights a year and someone who just got a Marriott Visa Card, in terms of upgrade chances?

BigLar Aug 19, 2005 9:28 pm

I am astonished that someone who has been a Marriott Platinum for two years has never gotten upgraded.

I usually stay in Fairfield Inns, and there's not much they can do for you there, but even there I usually get a "suite" or something.

It may have something to do with, for want of a better term, "agressiveness". If you never do anything proactively, your chances of getting upgraded are less than if you call ahead, or mention it to the desk clerk (with a printout of the Marriott T&C's in your hand), etc.

If you just passively show up and hope for the best, you may never get it.

Derf Aug 19, 2005 10:36 pm

It's easy to do - even as a silver (like me)

1.) Find out the type of room you would like (i.e. King Suite)
2.) Upon check-in, ask if any of those rooms are available.
3.) If yes, politely mention that you are a MR elite member and would greatly appreciate a complimentary upgrade.

This works for me 90% of the time if the room type is available.

DoubleD Aug 20, 2005 7:30 am


Originally Posted by ohmark
Are you staying at full service properties? Not even a lowly upgrade to the concierge floor?


I would say about 1 out of 5 Full Marriotts I get Concierge floor, but the rooms are very small. Never had a suite.

DoubleD Aug 20, 2005 7:34 am


Originally Posted by BigLar
I am astonished that someone who has been a Marriott Platinum for two years has never gotten upgraded.

I usually stay in Fairfield Inns, and there's not much they can do for you there, but even there I usually get a "suite" or something.

It may have something to do with, for want of a better term, "agressiveness". If you never do anything proactively, your chances of getting upgraded are less than if you call ahead, or mention it to the desk clerk (with a printout of the Marriott T&C's in your hand), etc.

If you just passively show up and hope for the best, you may never get it.

I normally stay at Full Marriotts if available, if not, I stay CourtYard. I will try your suggestion of requesting an upgrade. I do ask for Conceige Level but most of the time I get denied and told I will have access to the lounge.

jerseygirl Aug 20, 2005 7:34 am

virtual concierge?
 

Originally Posted by Uncle Lars
I got my first upgrade, as a lowly Silver, in a year when I used that "Virtual Concierge" to ask the Marriott Minneapolis to "do their best" to find two double beds, since we were traveling with a child, in a hotel that was filled to capacity for a convention I was attending (and we had snagged a Summer Sleepover rate way back!) Had a personal response in an hour saying two double beds were guaranteed, and a Concierge Level room waiting when we arrived at midnight the next day! Nice touch (and, I have to say an enthusiastic staff there throughout, for a hotel that doesn't always get rave reviews on the Web).

I suspect during conventions when rooms are filled with non-Elite members, it may be easier for relative lowlife like me to get an upgrade.

By the way, is there any distinction between Silvers who have stayed 49 nights a year and someone who just got a Marriott Visa Card, in terms of upgrade chances?


How did you contact the "virtual concierge"? Did not find on the web site, nor was there a link on my reservation

wintersummer Aug 20, 2005 8:22 am

I'd estimate that I'm upgraded about 75% of time, most often to suite.

BigLar Aug 20, 2005 7:00 pm


Originally Posted by Dennis.Dunbar@mckesson
I normally stay at Full Marriotts if available, if not, I stay CourtYard. I will try your suggestion of requesting an upgrade. I do ask for Conceige Level but most of the time I get denied and told I will have access to the lounge.

This bothers me a little. According to the MR T&C's (I think), you are entitled to the "best available room" excluding suites. You are also entitled to lounge access, and you say you do get that.

As a platinum, you're spending at least 75 nights a year in a Marriott property. As you say, most of them are full service properties. It boggles my mind that all of them are sold out on the Concierge level whenever you stay there.

Try the "agressiveness" route. You're not looking for them to bend the rules, just to follow them.

PS - Courtyards are just high class Fairfields, IMO, and they don't even give you breakfast.

BigLar Aug 20, 2005 7:50 pm


Originally Posted by Uncle Lars
By the way, is there any distinction between Silvers who have stayed 49 nights a year and someone who just got a Marriott Visa Card, in terms of upgrade chances?

The answer is no.

According to your profile (and this thread), you're hanging in at about 49 nights this year. You have over 4 months left to get that last elusive night. This requires, what we call in the business, a "matress run". :)

1. Pick a convenient Fairfield Inn.
2. Look for dates with a discount rate. Try AAA, Senior, Government, or any of the discount codes listed in the sticky for this forum.
3. Using the "flexible dates" feature (see my post elsewhere in this forum), find the cheapest rate you qualify for and book it.
4. Show up on the date and check in.
5. Look over the room, maybe muss up the bed.
6. Go home.
7. Maybe drop in the next morning for breakfast; you've paid for it!
8. If you don't go for brekkies, stop back a couple of days later and explain you had to leave early, and get your receipt.

Now, this may not be worth it to you, depending on how many Marriott stays you have planned for the future. But the status does count when getting upgrades, etc. and you are then eligible for the EEO offers.

You've got lots of time left; think it over. :)

Michigan Czar Aug 20, 2005 7:57 pm

I have done this but not for status. Remember when they would run the Summer promos when you had I think three stays and received a voucher good for two free weekend nights at cat 1-5? My friends and I always go to the Renaissance Meadowlands Hotel every Summer. Right before I did two one night stays at a FI by my work where we get a $40 rate. Did not stay either night but for $80 I got a stay for 2 nights worth $119 or so a night.

Uncle Lars Aug 20, 2005 7:58 pm


Originally Posted by jerseygirl
How did you contact the "virtual concierge"? Did not find on the web site, nor was there a link on my reservation

I made my reservation at marriott.com. A day or two before my stay, there was an email "reminder" with a virtual concierge listing (gives opportunity to order things like appetizer plates in the room, an hour of massage, etc.), and a window to send any "special requests".

Most likely, only some properties have this, though I seem to get reminders from all classes of hotels...

Uncle Lars Aug 20, 2005 8:03 pm


Originally Posted by BigLar
The answer is no.

According to your profile (and this thread), you're hanging in at about 49 nights this year. You have over 4 months left to get that last elusive night. This requires, what we call in the business, a "matress run". :)

1. Pick a convenient Fairfield Inn.
2. Look for dates with a discount rate. Try AAA, Senior, Government, or any of the discount codes listed in the sticky for this forum.
3. Using the "flexible dates" feature (see my post elsewhere in this forum), find the cheapest rate you qualify for and book it.
4. Show up on the date and check in.
5. Look over the room, maybe muss up the bed.
6. Go home.
7. Maybe drop in the next morning for breakfast; you've paid for it!
8. If you don't go for brekkies, stop back a couple of days later and explain you had to leave early, and get your receipt.

Now, this may not be worth it to you, depending on how many Marriott stays you have planned for the future. But the status does count when getting upgrades, etc. and you are then eligible for the EEO offers.

You've got lots of time left; think it over. :)

I was being "extreme" - I actually will be lucky to make 30 this year, as I most of the time don't have control over where I stay on business. Have done "mattress runs" a couple of times to get Promo clocks running, but I don't qualify for the real goodies!

mlbcard Aug 20, 2005 10:04 pm

I just joined the Marriott Rewards program and I got a huge upgrade, to the largest suite in Brussels Renaissence. I wonder if making the reservation 4 months ahead of time had anything to do with it.

SkiAdcock Aug 20, 2005 10:06 pm

Here's my strategy :D

Me: Hi, MsSkiAdcock checking in, here's my cc & my Marriott card. Them: Here's your key. Me: Thank you.

I get whatever I get. I don't get bent out of shape on stuff & just am pleasantly surprised when I get something extra. I should probably write down what you all do, but I keep forgetting (dumb me). Having said that I do like big rooms - don't necessarily need a suite. Love them when they happen but truly don't expect them - and hey, what constitutes a 'suite' varies big time by property.

Since I'm Plat I assume exec lounge access, but half the time I'm traveling on weekend so it's closed. Grrr. My pet peeve is half the time on weekend stays I'm there for bizness, so get irritated w/ that M-F thing. Why am I being penalized on weekend?

Cheers.

Jon Maiman Aug 21, 2005 1:13 pm

I use the same strategy as Sharon. At check in, I hand the front desk clerk my Marriott CC and my Marriott MR Card. If they ask me questions about my preferences I respond. Otherwise, I get what I get. If I am not on the concierge level and the front desk clerk doesn't mention lounge access, I do verify I have been given access. I usually wind up with decent rooms. I occasionally get upgrades. Rarely I wind up with a crap room. I am not shy about asking for a different room and I am always polite. Different doesn’t necessarily mean upgrade. Different as in a room not sandwiched between the elevator and vending, etc. :) Life’s too short to get hung up on upgrades. YMMV…

--Jon

P.S. I do enjoy big rooms and suites when I am given them.

DoubleD Aug 21, 2005 5:43 pm


Originally Posted by BigLar
This bothers me a little. According to the MR T&C's (I think), you are entitled to the "best available room" excluding suites. You are also entitled to lounge access, and you say you do get that.

As a platinum, you're spending at least 75 nights a year in a Marriott property. As you say, most of them are full service properties. It boggles my mind that all of them are sold out on the Concierge level whenever you stay there.

Try the "agressiveness" route. You're not looking for them to bend the rules, just to follow them.

PS - Courtyards are just high class Fairfields, IMO, and they don't even give you breakfast.


Today I was offered an upgrade at the Chicago Marriott from my room on the 42nd floor. It was a suite on the 44th floor. When I got there it had one of those rooms with the bed in the wall that is pulled down. I called the desk again was given a room similar to the original one on the 40th floor. I will call the day before I arrive in Provindence next week. I will try your suggestion.
thanks

Dennis

limo Aug 21, 2005 7:03 pm

Being polite almost always get me what I want

cyberdad Aug 26, 2005 9:00 pm

The key word is "polite", as in politely ask for an upgrade if you want one. Then its a good idea to explain why you'd like one. If you're just travelling alone and all you really need is a room for the night, they may wonder why you're making an issue about asking for an upgrade. I wouldn't know. Under these circumstances, a regular room suits me just fine.

On the other hand, If I'm with the family, or if its a special occasion, or if I'm staying for several days and would like to "spread out", I simply explain that I'd like to know if "a platinum upgrade might be available". I also make it clear that whatever they might be able to do for me would be much appreciated. Even if another room has already been assigned, my experience is that the staff at most Marriott branded properties will go out of their way to accomodate requests like this. My success rate with this approach is probably about 80-90%. And even when I don't get the upgrade, usually there's at least an effort to find me one and an offer to "check with the front desk in the morning", if its a multi night stay.

Another thing I do is when I reserve a room online and I'm looking for an upgrade is simply type in "Request Platinum Upgrade" in the comments box.

I certainly would also suggest the tactics to golds or silvers. They key seems to be that they'll do what they can for their more frequent guests...especially if you're polite in making your request and give them a good reason why you're asking them to help you.

Hope this helps.

clarkef Aug 29, 2005 10:27 pm


Originally Posted by cyberdad
The key word is "polite", as in politely ask for an upgrade if you want one. Then its a good idea to explain why you'd like one. If you're just travelling alone and all you really need is a room for the night, they may wonder why you're making an issue about asking for an upgrade. I wouldn't know. Under these circumstances, a regular room suits me just fine.

On the other hand, If I'm with the family, or if its a special occasion, or if I'm staying for several days and would like to "spread out", I simply explain that I'd like to know if "a platinum upgrade might be available". I also make it clear that whatever they might be able to do for me would be much appreciated. Even if another room has already been assigned, my experience is that the staff at most Marriott branded properties will go out of their way to accomodate requests like this. My success rate with this approach is probably about 80-90%. And even when I don't get the upgrade, usually there's at least an effort to find me one and an offer to "check with the front desk in the morning", if its a multi night stay.

Another thing I do is when I reserve a room online and I'm looking for an upgrade is simply type in "Request Platinum Upgrade" in the comments box.

I certainly would also suggest the tactics to golds or silvers. They key seems to be that they'll do what they can for their more frequent guests...especially if you're polite in making your request and give them a good reason why you're asking them to help you.

Hope this helps.

Politeness is absolutely the first step. The second is to know what you want. Hotels often have more elite guests than suites. Thus they have allocate them in the most efficient manner, which means figuring out what is the smallest upgrade that will satisfy the guest.

Merely asking for an upgrade will probably get an executive room, i.e. pool view, corner room, etc. Asking for a suite will get you a junior suite. I recommend finding out what type of suites does the hotel have and asking for it by name. I.e. Jacuzzie suite, Terrace suite, etc. More often than not, unless the desk clerk is on a power trip they will give it to you.

MysteryShopper Aug 31, 2005 9:02 pm

Don't forget to tip your host or hostess in concierge lounge!

OU812 Sep 1, 2005 7:41 am


Originally Posted by clarkef
Politeness is absolutely the first step. The second is to know what you want. Hotels often have more elite guests than suites. Thus they have allocate them in the most efficient manner, which means figuring out what is the smallest upgrade that will satisfy the guest.

Merely asking for an upgrade will probably get an executive room, i.e. pool view, corner room, etc. Asking for a suite will get you a junior suite. I recommend finding out what type of suites does the hotel have and asking for it by name. I.e. Jacuzzie suite, Terrace suite, etc. More often than not, unless the desk clerk is on a power trip they will give it to you.


Doesn't always work that way. Sometimes the front desk clerk is really powerless when it comes to putting an elite into anything other than a quality or concierge level room. On a recent stay at the Marriott Atlanta (Alpharetta) the hotel was fully booked due to large group. The desk clerk was frantically searching for a non-smoking king so as to avoid paying the elite benefit guarantee. I pleasantly informed him that room 832 (a suite on the concierge level) would be a nice alternative. He looked and said it was available but he had to get approval from the Front Desk Manager or above to book me into it. The FDM was standing right there and with a few key strokes I had the suite. The first "real" upgrade I have received at Marriott in a long, long time.

RIP...

BigLar Sep 1, 2005 9:05 am

That's cool, but how did you know that 832 was available?

OU812 Sep 1, 2005 2:36 pm

I know 832 was a suite. The Front Desk Clerk told me it was available for the three nights I was staying, but only the Front Desk Manager or above could authorize my assignment to that room which he did.

RIP...

flyerwife Sep 1, 2005 3:46 pm

I always offer my Marriott Platinum Elite card at check in as I approach the desk and give my name. I feel like it kind of reinforces the status in a subtle way.

When booking on the web, I always try and put a Platinum upgrade request in the Comments box on the reservation page. Trouble is, though the box is large, it only fits 45 characters and "Returning Platinum guest; Upgrade requested please; Thank you" is more than 45 characters, so it usually ends up looking like "Retg Plat Guest,u/g req/TYou".

I also keep a list of the room numbers that I have been upgraded to in previous visits. That way, I can go in and say "last time I was in room 1015 and it was wonderful. Is it available tonight?" or something similar.

free_miles Sep 9, 2005 10:37 am

I agree with taking a more aggressive approach. Some may not agree because they say why put in so much effort when an upgarde is "supposed" to happen anyway. But here's what has worked for me and it has resulted in upgrades to suites most of time when it's available despite the T&Cs.

On the day of arrival call the front desk and ask what kind of upgrades they have available for Platinum members. If you call before the day of arrival the typical response is it's based on availability and they don't know for sure until the day of arrival. If they offer the typical "we have upgraded you to the concierge floor" response, ask to see if they have anything better. Being on the concierge floor is no big deal, you have access to the lounge anyway, what's important is the size and location of the room.

Ask for a larger room, corner room, room with a view, whatever your heart desires. If something better is available they will typically give it to you. They may give you a few types of rooms to choose from. If you are really set on getting a suite, ask for it. You'll be surprised at the response when there is availability. If they say nothing better is available, ask to speak to a front desk supervisor. They may be able to "unlock" certain rooms that a clerk cannot access. I got upgrades to Hospitality suites and Presidential suites this way. It also helps if you're a repeat or regular customer at a particular property. Get to know the management and they will take care of you. Please note this applies to the full service Marriotts, Rens, and some Courtyards. Good luck.

BigLar Sep 9, 2005 10:47 am


Originally Posted by free_miles
I agree with taking a more aggressive approach. Some may not agree because they say why put in so much effort when an upgarde is "supposed" to happen anyway. But here's what has worked for me and it has resulted in upgrades to suites most of time when it's available despite the T&Cs.

On the day of arrival call the front desk and ask what kind of upgrades they have available for Platinum members. If you call before the day of arrival the typical response is it's based on availability and they don't know for sure until the day of arrival. If they offer the typical "we have upgraded you to the concierge floor" response, ask to see if they have anything better. Being on the concierge floor is no big deal, you have access to the lounge anyway, what's important is the size and location of the room.

Ask for a larger room, corner room, room with a view, whatever your heart desires. If something better is available they will typically give it to you. They may give you a few types of rooms to choose from. If you are really set on getting a suite, ask for it. You'll be surprised at the response when there is availability. If they say nothing better is available, ask to speak to a front desk supervisor. They may be able to "unlock" certain rooms that a clerk cannot access. I got upgrades to Hospitality suites and Presidential suites this way. It also helps if you're a repeat or regular customer at a particular property. Get to know the management and they will take care of you. Please note this applies to the full service Marriotts, Rens, and some Courtyards. Good luck.

I'm taking my very first Marriott award stay in a couple of months at the Parc 55 in SFO. I will definitely use this approach and see what happens.

While I certainly agree with your comments on the regular customer, the fact remains that to get to Marriott Platinum, you need 75 or more butt-in-bed nights. They don't have any shortcuts that I'm aware of. So, when you show up with that shiny platinum card, they know that you are a good Marriott customer.

keeton Sep 9, 2005 12:32 pm


Originally Posted by BigLar
I'm taking my very first Marriott award stay in a couple of months at the Parc 55 in SFO. I will definitely use this approach and see what happens.

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I've stayed at the Parc 55 a couple of times recently and, like yourself, I will be there in a few weeks on an award stay. They have always been pretty good to me in terms of room assignment without having to badger them.

In any event, you definitely want an upper floor corner room, concierge floor or not. Be prepared for some jaw-dropping views. ^


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