SpringHill Suites Vs Residence Inn - what's so difference?
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You really need to get over yourself (and it's clear you don't have an expertise in branding & positioning) - I didn't start this thread, and I'm not the only one verbalizing these points.
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I think SHS is not a bad brand (IHG is my secondary brand and I don't think they have anything like SHS), the SHSs we stayed at has no restaurant/bar attached to it. We love the extra space that we don't get from FI and the free breakfast is a plus too. I think Hyatt Place is the competing brand that is closest to SHS (haven't stayed at any Element, but my impression of Element is slightly more upscale than SHS).
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As others have noted here, SpringHill Suites is not an extended-stay brand. Also, these aren't true suites with separate rooms. SpringHill Suites is usually very good if you want a limited-service hotel room with a somewhat separate sitting/working area. It has far more in common with Courtyard, Four Points, and Fairfield than with extended-stay brands.
Marriott's three extended-stay brands offer studio, 1-bedroom, and 2-bedroom apartment-style units, with full kitchens. The actual mix of units varies by location and property age.
Residence Inn — Over the years, the granddaddy of extended-stay hotels has changed its physical characteristics and gained a lot of competition, but it continues to be at the higher end of the extended-stay market.
TownePlace Suites — Marriott started a second extended-stay brand with a lower cost structure and generally lower pricing. Square footage for similarly designated units (studio, 1-beadroom, 2-bedroom) is smaller than Residence Inn, and 2-bedroom units tend to have 1 bathroom, not 2. Locations may not be a prime.
element — Starwood, being late to the extended-pay game, went for a so-called "lifestyle" approach, which Marriott now brands as "Distinctive." With element, Marriott now has a growth brand that can go into markets already served by Residence Inn and that is more appealing to guests who also like AC Hotels and aloft.
You could also include Marriott legacy and Starwood legacy timeshare brands as extended-stay (apartment-style, with full kitchens), but then things get really complicated — and Marriott doesn't call them extended-stay.
Marriott's three extended-stay brands offer studio, 1-bedroom, and 2-bedroom apartment-style units, with full kitchens. The actual mix of units varies by location and property age.
Residence Inn — Over the years, the granddaddy of extended-stay hotels has changed its physical characteristics and gained a lot of competition, but it continues to be at the higher end of the extended-stay market.
TownePlace Suites — Marriott started a second extended-stay brand with a lower cost structure and generally lower pricing. Square footage for similarly designated units (studio, 1-beadroom, 2-bedroom) is smaller than Residence Inn, and 2-bedroom units tend to have 1 bathroom, not 2. Locations may not be a prime.
element — Starwood, being late to the extended-pay game, went for a so-called "lifestyle" approach, which Marriott now brands as "Distinctive." With element, Marriott now has a growth brand that can go into markets already served by Residence Inn and that is more appealing to guests who also like AC Hotels and aloft.
You could also include Marriott legacy and Starwood legacy timeshare brands as extended-stay (apartment-style, with full kitchens), but then things get really complicated — and Marriott doesn't call them extended-stay.
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Lets keep the discussion focused on the brands and their differences (or similarities as the case may be) and not about each other.
Thanks.
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I think SHS is not a bad brand (IHG is my secondary brand and I don't think they have anything like SHS), the SHSs we stayed at has no restaurant/bar attached to it. We love the extra space that we don't get from FI and the free breakfast is a plus too. I think Hyatt Place is the competing brand that is closest to SHS (haven't stayed at any Element, but my impression of Element is slightly more upscale than SHS).
As for chain comparisons, the problem is that Holiday Inn Express can be all over the place in terms of experience, so that some stays there are more like Spring Hill whereas others are not. TPS, I suppose, would equate to Candlewood (with breakfast, although my one TPS stay seated about 20 guests with an occupancy that day we'll over 100).
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I have never stayed at a RI for more than 1 or 2 nights, I've never used the stove or the oven, so the fact that it is meant to be extended stay is irrelevant to me. When I go away for a week or more (to me that is an "extended stay") it is either usually to a major city or to a resort, where RI's usually do not have a large presence.
What I like about them is the extra space - a suite for not a suite price. I don't like that they only give 5x points, so I usually use a Chase certificate or points to book them. And they are usually quite available at those low levels.
I've only stayed at a TPS suite once, near (not right at) BNA, and it was fine. Same amount of space, maybe more a little IKEA looking furniture, but fine.
Stayed at a handful of SPS, the last one was at ATL, and it was NEW, so it had the awful opaque glass room divider, and opaque glass bathroom door, which afford no privacy from light when one of you gets up in the middle of the night. Probably the thing I dislike most about newer hotels - form over function.
I agree with whoever said upstream that they take each case on an individual basis - the location I want, at the price I want, with breakfast included - beyond that, I could care less what shingle is out.
What I like about them is the extra space - a suite for not a suite price. I don't like that they only give 5x points, so I usually use a Chase certificate or points to book them. And they are usually quite available at those low levels.
I've only stayed at a TPS suite once, near (not right at) BNA, and it was fine. Same amount of space, maybe more a little IKEA looking furniture, but fine.
Stayed at a handful of SPS, the last one was at ATL, and it was NEW, so it had the awful opaque glass room divider, and opaque glass bathroom door, which afford no privacy from light when one of you gets up in the middle of the night. Probably the thing I dislike most about newer hotels - form over function.
I agree with whoever said upstream that they take each case on an individual basis - the location I want, at the price I want, with breakfast included - beyond that, I could care less what shingle is out.
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IMO Marriott has done a really good job with SHS. The new build properties especially have very functional, comfortable rooms, the breakfast is actually pretty good, and the staff are generally friendly and competent. I'd also agree Hyatt Place is the closest analog (and maybe Aloft, but I haven't stayed at one of those yet).
In the two locations where I regularly stay at an SHS (San Diego and Modesto), the price is typically in the ballpark of the full service competition. But I find clients don't complain because they know these are not "luxury" hotels.
In the two locations where I regularly stay at an SHS (San Diego and Modesto), the price is typically in the ballpark of the full service competition. But I find clients don't complain because they know these are not "luxury" hotels.
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I have never stayed at a RI for more than 1 or 2 nights, I've never used the stove or the oven, so the fact that it is meant to be extended stay is irrelevant to me. When I go away for a week or more (to me that is an "extended stay") it is either usually to a major city or to a resort, where RI's usually do not have a large presence.
What I like about them is the extra space - a suite for not a suite price. I don't like that they only give 5x points, so I usually use a Chase certificate or points to book them. And they are usually quite available at those low levels.
I've only stayed at a TPS suite once, near (not right at) BNA, and it was fine. Same amount of space, maybe more a little IKEA looking furniture, but fine.
Stayed at a handful of SPS, the last one was at ATL, and it was NEW, so it had the awful opaque glass room divider, and opaque glass bathroom door, which afford no privacy from light when one of you gets up in the middle of the night. Probably the thing I dislike most about newer hotels - form over function.
I agree with whoever said upstream that they take each case on an individual basis - the location I want, at the price I want, with breakfast included - beyond that, I could care less what shingle is out.
What I like about them is the extra space - a suite for not a suite price. I don't like that they only give 5x points, so I usually use a Chase certificate or points to book them. And they are usually quite available at those low levels.
I've only stayed at a TPS suite once, near (not right at) BNA, and it was fine. Same amount of space, maybe more a little IKEA looking furniture, but fine.
Stayed at a handful of SPS, the last one was at ATL, and it was NEW, so it had the awful opaque glass room divider, and opaque glass bathroom door, which afford no privacy from light when one of you gets up in the middle of the night. Probably the thing I dislike most about newer hotels - form over function.
I agree with whoever said upstream that they take each case on an individual basis - the location I want, at the price I want, with breakfast included - beyond that, I could care less what shingle is out.
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I think I've stayed at the TPS near BNA and I believe that is a newer build. The newer ones are fine to nice, but the older ones can leave a lot to be desired, as do some of the older Fairfields in particular. I might go with a newer TPS over an older RI and a newer FI over an older SHS, but in most cases all else equal I'd much rather stay at an older RI than an older TPS or an older SHS over an older FI.
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One other thing I liked about that TPS near BNA, and this often is the case with RI's, too, is that they often provide shuttle service to nearby restaurants, etc. (we took it to Darfon's). What other chains regularly provide that service? And looking at that TPS, you are right, it does look like it is a newer build.
--Jon